MALDI-TOF-MS/HPLC-UV-VIS rHGH results

Riptropin is not a leginimate brand. Just a name made up for a UG product by Homer and TP. In addition he cut the price to compete with both of them.

Explain how it's possible to make such an idiotic mistake? If what he's saying is true it means that scumbag was selling some random product and had no clue what was in the vial. I can't think of anything more irresponsible.

Here is the true side of the story. The guy is a scumbag who could care less if you drop dead injecting his product tomorrow.
Well the kefei name was made up 10 years ago so I'm not sure what your point is?

So your telling me these UGL actually know what they are selling? None of them even have access to equipment that can test what they are buying. This is your argument?

This is getting boring! I'm tired of this back and forth crap.

You win I'm done!

Why don't we discuss the issue at hand and figure out why these low concentrated generic GH samples are raising gh serum levels and IGF-1 levels like pharm grade? And testing in range or identical to pharm grade?

mands
 
Their problem remains a quantitative one, in which profits can not be realized at existing PH grade concentrations.

Completely untrue!!! Real Jintropin from Genescience was all over the place back in the mid to late 2000's and didn't cost much more than the UG generic GH. And that was real pharmaceutical GH. People that keep insisting that GH is so expensive to manufacture, do not understand the industry. The actual cost of the machinery to initially start a factory is very expensive. But once you have the machinery, the cost is quite inexpensive.
 
Well the kefei name was made up 10 years ago so I'm not sure what your point is?

So your telling me these UGL are selling? None of them don't even have access to equipment that can test what they are buying. This is your argument?

This is getting boring! I'm tired of this back and forth crap.

You win I'm done!

Why don't we discuss the issue at hand and figure out why these low concentrated generic GH available are raising gh serum levels and IGF-1 levels like pharm grade? And testing in range or identical to pharm grade?

mands
United Kefi no longer produces HGH. They found the profit margins to be too low due to the competition in the Chinese market. Don't believe me? Contact them.

I'm telling you another Biotechnology group is manufacturing it. You can refer to it as a UGL if you like I suppose since it's not sold to be used as a pharmaceutical preparation.

In simpler terms it's the equivalent of putting non Watson produced testosterone inside a Watson vial. It's dishonest and should be viewed as such.
 
Why don't we discuss the issue at hand and figure out why these low concentrated generic GH samples are raising gh serum levels and IGF-1 levels like pharm grade? And testing in range or identical to pharm grade?

mands

^^ this
Nx round:

1) thegreytop (again)
2) angtropin
3) godtropin

All have tested well (very well) in bloods
 
These are the only ones that I know of that have received GMP certificates to produce GH. I'm not sure how current it is.

Changchun Gensci Pharmaceutical Co., Ltd.
Shenzhen Genetech Co.,Ltd.
Zhongshan Hygene Biopharm Co.,Ltd.
Anhui Anke Biotechnology Co.,Ltd.
Shanghai United Kefei Biotechnology Co., Ltd.

mands


WIKIPEDIA:
There are/were 4 (original) Factories - WIKI has been "hacked" so many times with misinformation and "Authentic Website" links. (Especially Hygetropin being legally sold in China)(Hygene....not Hygetropin)

Shanghai United Cell (Kefei) Biotech
Shenzhen Genetech Co., LTD (was added)

Who really knows what's legit

Just a couple of Screen Shots to show examples of the many changes (misinformation)

Also a "Google Maps" screen shot showing Zhongshan Hygene BioPharm is "closed"

So much Misinformation about GMP Factories, Dr. LIN, HYGETROPIN, GH Blood Work Protocols....ETC.ETC

This is a Billion Dollar Industry

It's all about selling you with misleading misinformation
 

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United Kefi no longer produces HGH. They found the profit margins to be too low due to the competition in the Chinese market. Don't believe me? Contact them.

I'm telling you another Biotechnology group is manufacturing it. You can refer to it as a UGL if you like I suppose since it's not sold to be used as a pharmaceutical preparation.

In simpler terms it's the equivalent of putting non Watson produced testosterone inside a Watson vial. It's dishonest and should be viewed as such.
What are you not understanding? HGHpower's partner "made the name up" Kefei over 10 years ago! He has changed mill only once during that time. And united was who they used at one time. I already stated that HGHpower is NOT using united.

Just like IP using BD and QV name but a little different.

If you can buy unlabeled pharmacy grade at a low cost from the manufacture and place your own label on it... Damn right I would.

And again the Kefei name was termed by HGHpower's partner or whom he gets his Kefeis. Round and round we go. Really you win this time no more from me.

mands
 
Why don't we discuss the issue at hand and figure out why these low concentrated generic GH samples are raising gh serum levels and IGF-1 levels like pharm grade? And testing in range or identical to pharm grade?

mands

This right here is the key issue!!! I don't understand why CBS or Jim won't work with me to get the data re-analyzed as I am still 100% positive that there is an oversight somewhere. We are all on the same team, so why not work together.
 
What are you not understanding? HGHpower's partner "made the name up" Kefei over 10 years ago! He has changed mill only once during that time. And united was who they used at one time. I already stated that HGHpower is NOT using united.

Just like IP using BD and QV name but a little different.

If you can buy unlabeled pharmacy grade at a low cost from the manufacture and place your own label on it... Damn right I would.

And again the Kefei name was termed by HGHpower's partner or whom he gets his Kefeis. Round and round we go. Really you win this time no more from me.

mands

Wow, never knew that!! I have used Kefei many years ago, like 8-10 and they were good back then. I had been considering using them again until the red welts problem arose several years ago and HK quit selling them.
 
WIKIPEDIA:
There are/were 4 (original) Factories - WIKI has been "hacked" so many times with misinformation and "Authentic Website" links. (Especially Hygetropin being legally sold in China)(Hygene....not Hygetropin)

Shanghai United Cell (Kefei) Biotech
Shenzhen Genetech Co., LTD (was added)

Who really knows what's legit

Just a couple of Screen Shots to show examples of the many changes (misinformation)

Also a "Google Maps" screen shot showing Zhongshan Hygene BioPharm is "closed"

So much Misinformation about GMP Factories, Dr. LIN, HYGETROPIN, GH Blood Work Protocols....ETC.ETC

This is a Billion Dollar Industry

It's all about selling you with misleading misinformation
I thought it was Dr. Lei Jin :)

mands
 
I thought it was Dr. Lei Jin :)

mands
Dr. Bruce Lee :)

It's really quite interesting once you start really digging deep how much misinformation is out there. Google Translate some Chinese GOV sites and the rabbit hole gets very deep.
 
Dr. Bruce Lee :)

It's really quite interesting once you start really digging deep how much misinformation is out there. Google Translate some Chinese GOV sites and the rabbit hole gets very deep.
With this being said sounds like a bunch of fucking bro-science running g through these last few pages.
 
People that keep insisting that GH is so expensive to manufacture, do not understand the industry. The actual cost of the machinery to initially start a factory is very expensive. But once you have the machinery, the cost is quite inexpensive.

You think so, huh? Evidently you are not aware of how difficult, time consuming, and EXPENSIVE it is to transform and purify the "mélange" secreted by bacteria into hGH. That E. coli doesn't just pump out hGH of the right molecular weight with the correct number of amino acids that are arranged in the proper sequence and perfectly folded. That's done by the purification process and it is neither easy or cheap.
 
I think the word GENERIC is misleading to anyone buying/using these Chinese Internet GH COUNTERFEIT Products.

It makes the buyer 'feel' better about the purchase.

A generic drug (generic drugs, short: generics) is a drugdefined as "a drug product that is comparable to a brand/reference listed drug product in dosage form, strength, quality and performance characteristics, and intended use."[1] It has also been defined as a term referring to any drug marketed under its chemical name without advertising[2] or to the chemical makeup of a drug rather than to the advertised brand name under which the drug is sold.[3]

Although they may not be associated with a particular company, generic drugs are subject to the regulations of the governments of countries where they are dispensed. Generic drugs are labeled with the name of the manufacturer and the adopted name (nonproprietary name) of the drug.

A generic drug must contain the same active ingredients as the original formulation. According to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), generic drugs are identical or within an acceptable bioequivalent range to the brand-name counterpart with respect to pharmacokinetic and pharmacodynamic properties


A counterfeit medication or a counterfeit drug is a medication or pharmaceutical product which is produced and sold with the intent to deceptively represent its origin, authenticity or effectiveness. A counterfeit drug may contain inappropriate quantities of active ingredients, or none, may be improperly processed within the body (e.g., absorption by the body), may contain ingredients that are not on the label (which may or may not be harmful), or may be supplied with inaccurate or fake packaging and labeling. Medicines which are deliberately mislabeled to deceive consumers—including mislabeled but otherwise genuine generic drugs—are counterfeit
 
^^ this
Nx round:

1) thegreytop (again)
2) angtropin
3) godtropin

All have tested well (very well) in bloods
I have :

1 AngTropin
1 GodTropin
5.8mg/vial Sandoz Omnitrope (pharmacy)

Would like to donate these along with follow-up Blood Work...if the testing is still being done (looks like it might not be) :(
 
You think so, huh? Evidently you are not aware of how difficult, time consuming, and EXPENSIVE it is to transform and purify the "mélange" secreted by bacteria into hGH. That E. coli doesn't just pump out hGH of the right molecular weight with the correct number of amino acids that are arranged in the proper sequence and perfectly folded. That's done by the purification process and it is neither easy or cheap.

Prove that it is expensive; lets see some figures.
 
Costliest bodybuilding drugs?? You get a 100iu kit for roughly $135, thats $1.35 an iu. Look at all the other compounds guys are running in a cycle and figure out how much these guys are spending on other drugs; then tell me its the costliest drug.
 
You get a 100iu kit for roughly $135, thats $1.35 an iu.


If you think you can buy legitimate pharm grade HGH for $1.35 per iu I have bridge to sell you. Even in countries where it is legal to simply buy above board from actual pharmaceutical companies the price is several multiples of that. Not uncommon to pay more than $1000 for a 100 IU kit in the US (from a pharmacy instead of a drug dealer).

I have no doubt you can but underdosed and overlabelled HGH for $.15 per fake IU though. But that has jack shit to do with the cost of the legitimate product.
 
Costliest bodybuilding drugs?? You get a 100iu kit for roughly $135, thats $1.35 an iu. Look at all the other compounds guys are running in a cycle and figure out how much these guys are spending on other drugs; then tell me its the costliest drug.
With just a little effort.....you can find Chinese GH Products that are "approved for medical use" $2.75 an IU comes to mind.

The only thing consistent about the Chinese Counterfeit GH Products are that they are inconsistent. That's fact.

This Underground GH Market is driven by Authentic Offshors Websites...Vague Blood Work...Dr. "LIN" folklore, "overdosed and strong" colored tops, etc

Until the BUYER educates him/herself on what's really behind the curtain, and demands legitimate testing, etc.....this game will continue to be played the same way it's been played the last decade....Highest Serum Score wins.
 
you can find Chinese GH Products that are "approved for medical use" $2.75 an IU comes to mind


:) I am pretty sure the Chinese would approve of humans (who are not them) using any number of horrifying/useless things too... Arsenic, polonium, overpriced sterile water...
 
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