MALDI-TOF-MS/HPLC-UV-VIS rHGH results

[mands]

Don't even start defending this BS. He openly admitted to selling .com.cn Hyges claiming they were authentic Hygetropin. They are not authentic but black market.

He knew damn well they were fakes. He had the same Chinese fucks who package the fake Hygetropin switch it to a fake Riptropin box. It is well known TP and Homer are the only suppliers of Riptropin.

Kefei's aren't even manufactured anymore!

Little sensitive on this one are you? I'm telling you what I know from watching this go down and speaking directly with him. Not sure what his partner has done over the years.

Kindly link me to the post that he sates he sold Hyges? Because I can guarantee this did not happen after July of 2013!

As far as the Rips like I said he sold them for 21 days contacted his supplier and then ceased selling them. He was asked kindly by OLM to go because HK would leave OLM if HGHpower was still there selling.

mands

 

[muscle96ss]

Shanghai Kefei no longer produces.

Anke Bio is that only one on the list that will sell to the black market but very few use them due to the cost of $2800/g.

Please elaborate; where are the Kefei's on the UG market coming from then?

 

[muscle96ss]

Little sensitive on this one are you? I'm telling you what I know from watching this go down and speaking directly with him. Not sure what his partner has done over the years.

Kindly link me to the post that he sates he sold Hyges? Because I can guarantee this did not happen after July of 2013!

As far as the Rips like I said he sold them for 21 days contacted his supplier and then ceased selling them. He was asked kindly by OLM to go because HK would leave OLM if HGHpower was still there selling.

mands

He sold Hyges up until around february 2014.

 

[muscle96ss]

Here is a link to the thread on Jan 24th where he stated no more Hyges:

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/sponsors/88316-sponsor-hgh-power-92.html

 

[mands]

Please elaborate; where are the Kefei's on the UG market coming from then?

I believe they once were coming from Shanghai but not anymore. I do not know were the mill is but I know Kefei's have been around for like 10 years.

mands

 

[mands]

He sold Hyges up until around february 2014.

Let me re-phrase. HGHpower didn't purchase any Hyges after July 2013 perhaps. I believe he still had stock until the first of following year. I would have to confirm with him though.

mands

 

[muscle96ss]

I believe they once were coming from Shanghai but not anymore. I do not know were the mill is but I know Kefei's have been around for like 10 years.

mands

Yes, I thought they were coming from Shanghai United Kefei Biotech, but according to iintensity, they are no longer producing. So I was curious where he thinks the ones on the black market are coming from if this is true.

Also, I have never trusted HGHpower after that whole Riptropin fiasco. A lot of people that know what happened feel the same way.

 

[mands]

Yes, I thought they were coming from Shanghai United Kefei Biotech, but according to iintensity, they are no longer producing. So I was curious where he thinks the ones on the black market are coming from if this is true.

Also, I have never trusted HGHpower after that whole Riptropin fiasco. A lot of people that know what happened feel the same way.

Yeah I know what happened as well. We have spoken many times and he's adamant about the seller and how he didn't realize they were replicas/fakes and ceased purchasing of them. Always three sides to the story... Mine, yours and the correct one

I do know that HGHpower does not purchase his GH from Shanghai United anymore. I will confirm though.

Also, the whole remailer that stole from him was a bad deal as well.

mands

 

[muscle96ss]

Yeah I know what happened as well. We have spoken many times and he's adamant about the seller and how he didn't realize they were replicas/fakes and ceased purchasing of them. Always three sides to the story... Mine, yours and the correct one

I do know that HGHpower does not purchase his GH from Shanghai United anymore. I will confirm though.

Also, the whole remailer that stole from him was a bad deal as well.

mands

I can understand him buying them thinking they are legit and being pissed off that he is now stuck with a shitload of replicas/fakes. But his actions and the things he said after he found out that they were replicas/fakes is where I lost my respect and trust. He has since run a really tight ship and I am impressed with how he is handling his business as of late; but in the back of my mind it is hard to forget what happened to some people I know.

 

[pmac928]

@mands don't we have labs on those keifies somewhere?

 

[iintensity]

He sold Hyges up until around february 2014.

HGH Power never once sold legit Hygetropin. He only sold fakes produced by the .com.cn site. When asking about this site Bio Hygene openly stated .com.cn is a scammer and not to do buisness with them.

Also legit Hygetropins don't have an anti-counterfeit code.

The only manufacturer of Hygetropin can be found here: http://biohygene.com/About_uses/Company/24.html

 

[iintensity]

Yeah I know what happened as well. We have spoken many times and he's adamant about the seller and how he didn't realize they were replicas/fakes and ceased purchasing of them. Always three sides to the story... Mine, yours and the correct one

I do know that HGHpower does not purchase his GH from Shanghai United anymore. I will confirm though.

Also, the whole remailer that stole from him was a bad deal as well.

mands

Riptropin is not a leginimate brand. Just a name made up for a UG product by Homer and TP. In addition he cut the price to compete with both of them.

Explain how it's possible to make such an idiotic mistake? If what he's saying is true it means that scumbag was selling some random product and had no clue what was in the vial. I can't think of anything more irresponsible.

Here is the true side of the story. The guy is a scumbag who could care less if you drop dead injecting his product tomorrow.

 

[iintensity]

@mands don't we have labs on those keifies somewhere?

Even if there is HGH in the vial it's not authentic. It's like filling a Watson vial with testosterone you personally brewed.

 

[pmac928]

Even if there is HGH in the vial it's not authentic. It's like filling a Watson vial with testosterone you personally brewed.

I don't use keifies. Every chinese generic is hit or miss imo and always will be. I just can't afford pharma.

 

[Dr JIM]

After reading these last several posts about who is the BIGGEST SCAMMER some still question the veracity of the assays I've posted, LMAO!

 

[hotdog23]

After reading these last several posts about who is the BIGGEST SCAMMER some still question the veracity of the assays I've posted, LMAO!

Dude no one thinks your fuckin test results are fake. Not one person has said that. Dozens of igf scores on one product vs. your analyses, has confused several members - because they do not match. And they have questions, and your the expert they want to answer them. That's it. And IMO they have been answered repeatedly, by you.

@mands don't we have labs on those keifies somewhere?

I have an igf test from hghpower Kefei, matches up with what doc Jim and mands found. Real but severely underdosed

 

[Dr JIM]

Even if there is HGH in the vial it's not authentic. It's like filling a Watson vial with testosterone you personally brewed.

Then lets hear your definition of authentic bc the overwhelming majority of FDA approved "generic" drugs are as efficacious as their Pharmaceutical competitors.

While there are no FDA approved generic GH manufacturer, the fact is UGL GH products have come a long way over the past few years such that many (I doubt anymore than one "manufacturer' actually exists) have at least reached the qualitative standards on par with, if not identical to PH grade GH.

Their problem remains a quantitative one, in which profits can not be realized at existing PH grade concentrations.

 

[Dr JIM]

Dude no one thinks your fuckin test results are fake. Not one person has said that. Dozens of igf scores on one product vs. your analyses, has confused several members - because they do not match. And they have questions, and your the expert they want to answer them. That's it. And IMO they have been answered repeatedly, by you.



I have an igf test from hghpower Kefei, matches up with what doc Jim and mands found. Real but severely underdosed

Oh but I thought YOU "fucking" contended there was a problem with the "math" or "equation" used to calculate the concentrations on the last FOUR samples that were posted. Or is the fucking problem you don't know shit from Shinola using an in-vivo assay to determine the accuracy of an In-vitro analysis.

See the "math" is quite simple if one wants to know the concentration of the "active ingredient" in a pill or a parenteral solution ya TEST those directly BUT if one queries the potency of a product you analyze either a clinical parameter such as growth or a bioeqivalent marker such as IGF!

 

[hotdog23]

Oh but I thought YOU "fucking" contended there was a problem with the "math" or "equation" used to calculate the concentrations on the last FOUR samples that were posted. Or is the fucking problem you don't know shit from Shinola!

You wanna re-read my post bro. I copy pasted muscle96ss because you had him on ignore. I don't know shit from shinola. That's why I defer to you for all things quantitative analyses. I trust your judgement, training, knowledge and intention. Despite you being ultra-prick

As does everyone else here. Questions and misunderstanding by 99.9% of members trying to understand testing methods. Is not calling a fraud or a liar. You are not the target Jim.

 

[iintensity]

Then lets hear your definition of authentic bc the overwhelming majority of FDA approved "generic" drugs are as efficacious as their Pharmaceutical competitors.

While there are no FDA approved generic GH manufacturer, the fact is UGL GH products have come a long way over the past few years such that many (I doubt anymore than one "manufacturer' actually exists) have at least reached the qualitative standards on par with, if not identical to PH grade GH.

Their problem remains a quantitative one, in which profits can not be realized at existing PH grade concentrations.

If I purchase a vial of testosterone that has the Watson label or a Vial of Omnitrope I expect it to be manufactured by those pharmaceutical companies.

I find a fake label to be unacceptable even if it results in identical serums levels.