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MALDI-TOF-MS/HPLC-UV-VIS rHGH results
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Colt44
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I think MOST is a stretch. Some, yes.
Colt44
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So you don't care about any of us huh? Good to know.
Oh well how many have posted IGF levels? A LOT fewer than MOST unfortunately.
An similar situation occurred when people were asked to post TT levels after I conducted testosterone levels on samples that were submitted.
(Again info data would have HELPED evaluate the usefulness of the 10X rule and the data I had posted)
Sorry friend but MOST in this forum have committed nothing more than LIP SERVICE, and a few posts, to the notion of community.
This becomes even more obvious when that definition is associated with direct personal involvement or financial expenditure.
The fact is prior to this thread I had offered GH testing to ANYONE who would first submit their baseline IGF level and another one 4-6 weeks after the analysis was conducted. The proviso, no data would be revealed until the 4-6 week level was returned to me.
Quests how many even submitted samples ZIPPO, ZILTCH, ZERO!
That's the reason MANDS and I changed the requirement to forwarding IGF levels after the analyses were revealed, and we still got ZIPPO, ZILTCH, ZERO IGF data, lol!
It's all for the better really bc at least now I KNOW what to expect from the majority, NOT MUCH.
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muscle96ss
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If you honestly felt this way about MOST of the people here on Meso, then why do you choose to make it your home? The same question goes for you CBS since you state you don't give a shit about the online community. Why even be here, it can't be fun if you don't like or care about the people you are interacting on a daily basis?
cbs doesn't mean meso members. He's referring to the "Status Quo"...he's not concerned with what the "Powers That Be" want and expect. We've been about getting down to brass tacks.
The way things appear to us(cbs, Doc, myself, and a host of others) is that 96 appears to be a hired gun sent to quiet the dissenters. Occupy the trouble makers while the scam continues on its way down the road on the gravy train.
Colt44
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How many comitted to posting IGF tests? Not being an ass, I'm seriously asking.
Just as I posted baseline IGF and will test 4 weeks in, I've got some test you can run analysis on. I'll post TT values. Let's do this.
Colt44
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Got it. You can go ahead and lump me in with that host also.
I think later I'll count how many times he's plugged Karl's name or label.
Define committed, everyone KNEW that was an expectation but no one signed a contract Colt. Sorry about the sarcasm but ...
See my last post.
1. Personnel interests Huh? I'll use one of your lines... Prove it?
2. TID
3. You wouldn't have a clue about real world experience and how AAS effect individuals. Why cause you don't workout, lift or take PED's. So keep pretending you know about what happens when T4 is introduced to a GH cycle buddy. Don't worry I'll post some pics of me before starting a t4 and 3 weeks after and you tell me how it worked.
4. You are a poser and way to old to be lonely sitting at home on a Saturday evening. Get outta the house and visit the real world.
5. Make sure you take your meds old man. Don't forget.
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Colt44
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Define committed, everyone KNEW that was an expectation but no one signed a contract Colt. Sorry about the sarcasm but ...
See my last post.
Obviously I know no one signed a contract. Was just wondering if those that sent samples knew what was expected of them.
I know this testing isn't cheap and just so you know, some of us really do appreciate it. Biologic assays are the least we could do. Thanks.
He'll yes I care, and so does CBS, that's why I'm/we are here, performing tests, and have devoted untold number of hours to THIS FORUM.
But as BB suggested it's very disconcerting when ONE CLOWN can derail the intent of an entire thread bc of DATA ERRORS he suspects exists absent any supportive evidence,
but the result of his misinterpretation about how to best use and apply IN-VITRO MEDICAL ASSAYS.
And on top of that not have the support of those I did the testing FOR via IGF levels.
Crap discouraging you better believe it, but I'm still here aren't I, and MH will return to PM his job accomplished!
Colt44
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muscle96ss
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Ben, you've been around the block many times and on many other boards. Look at boards like PM where all the sources have reps; have you EVER known me to rep for any sources? Has my name EVER come up in a discussion as being a source? In fact while everyone knows that PM is my home board, when people ask me for recommendations for sources for various things; I always recommend who I personally use and usually it is someone that is not from PM(actually most of whom I personally use for everything other than peptides is from AB).
Lets even looks at this thing closer. I am not suggesting that just the grey tops results are off; I am suggesting that ALL the results posted are off because they all used the same standard. So by that token I am saying that MG's GH is accurately dosed. Anyone who follows MG knows that I cannot stand the lieing, scamming, thieving, piece of shit. I have simply focused on the greys because of both my behind the scenes knowledge of the actual product as well as my first hand experience with the product, not to mention literally dozens of IGF-1's and serums GH's of the product. I have no personal experience with MG's product or the other products tested.
So, all this agenda krapp, is just that, krapp! Every time I stand up for what I believe, you people accuse me of having an agenda. You said it when I got involved in the Karl saga it was suggested again when I got involved in the Karius situation. Damn, I must sell a lot of stuff. You guys are so untrusting that you are never going to find the truth if you don't use some common sense and learn that not everybody out there is trying to screw you over.
muscle96ss
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One more thing, nobody on PM believes the tests anyway. So why would I be here if I had an agenda based on the sales of GH? That would not make any sense now would it? Use some common sense and logic for a change!!
muscle96ss
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Yeah, whats funny is you don't even know the story behind me and Karl. I originally couldn't stand the guy and thought he was a scammer because he was scamming me. I tried to get him banned at PM. We talked almost everyday via e-mail and he would let me know the details of what he was working on and how it would all play out over time. I didn't believe a word he said originally(and pestered him daily to get my money back), but in the end I got to know him and we became friends and he came through and made things right. So when he came to Meso and people didn't believe his story, there were still parts that I was having trouble believing; but I had a lot of insight into what was going on behind the scenes. I also had a lot of insight into the person he was to be able to predict future action. In other words, I knew that Karl was serious about selling a high quality non-chinese GH to fill that void in the market. To this day, I still believe Karl is selling a high quality product. However, I personally do not use his product as my serum GH and IGF-1 scores were on the low side compare to other GH's I have used. I would compare it to Serostim in terms of comparison in terms of my bloodwork and physical results. But others have reported excellent results and love his GH. So, I have nothing negative to say about it.
So, I am not sure how someone who understands what has transpired can say that I am selling or making money off of Karl's GH.
One more thing. In all the years I have been doing this NEVER have I received free product or money from ANYONE in exchange for me working for them or helping to promote their product. The majority of the testing I have done on my own with my own money. However, a small amount has been done where the sponsor will send 1 kit for me to do a serum, which I pay for. That has become the norm lately over at PM where the sponsors will pick several vets and send them a kit in exchange for them doing a serum. However, I am picky about what sponsors I will do that for and have refused several of them(i.e. Americatropin, MG), because I don't trust them and don't want to falsely lead people into thinking they are legit when they send me good GH(knowing that they will probabably send bad GH to their customers).
So before people start to judge me and accuse me of having an agenda, I suggest you get to know me and what I am all about. I could very easily have been like some of the guys on PM who jump from sponsor to sponsor, getting free product for pimping their wares. But thats now what I am all about and never will.
MH it matters NOT what I've posted or would/could or should post you WILL make every effort to blindly make attempts to discount it all.
So exclusive of the non-evidentiary adversarial comments (AKA BULLSHIT) you have posted on this and K's Western Bio's thread, enlighten us all, HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED ANYTHING OF USE TO THE MEMBERS OF MESO, NOT!
So exclusive of the non-evidentiary adversarial comments (AKA BULLSHIT) you have posted on this and K's Western Bio's thread, enlighten us all, HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED ANYTHING OF USE TO THE MEMBERS OF MESO, NOT!
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Jim, that was an old IGF test. I'm 44 now. Do you believe my IGF baseline is somehow higher now?
Colt44
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Why go off someones opinion? I'd test it again. Every time you start a GH run. Leaves nothing to guess
Despite all this chaos im learning a lot about chem analysis. This is great!
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