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Colorado’s poster boy for ‘stoned driving’ was drunk off his gourd
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/06/06/colorados-poster-boy-for-stoned-driving-was-drunk-off-his-gourd/?hpid=z4
Kilbey had a blood-alcohol concentration of .268, more than three times the legal limit. The current legal limit is .08.
Despite an abundance of data to the contrary, reputable media outlets like http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/04/07/crime-is-down-in-denver-after-pots-legalization-but-ap-still-wants-to-scare-us/ (the Associated Press) and the New York Times are still running stories claiming that pot legalization has unleashed a wave of crime, drugged driving and stoned psychopaths. The stories are primarily based on anecdotes from law enforcement officials and avowed pot opponents. Perhaps it’s time to start looking at those anecdotes with a bit more skepticism.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/06/06/colorados-poster-boy-for-stoned-driving-was-drunk-off-his-gourd/?hpid=z4
Kilbey had a blood-alcohol concentration of .268, more than three times the legal limit. The current legal limit is .08.
Despite an abundance of data to the contrary, reputable media outlets like http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/04/07/crime-is-down-in-denver-after-pots-legalization-but-ap-still-wants-to-scare-us/ (the Associated Press) and the New York Times are still running stories claiming that pot legalization has unleashed a wave of crime, drugged driving and stoned psychopaths. The stories are primarily based on anecdotes from law enforcement officials and avowed pot opponents. Perhaps it’s time to start looking at those anecdotes with a bit more skepticism.
Voltrader
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Wow......talk about leaving out important pieces of information and a clear agenda. Dude was to drunk to even feel the effects of marijuana.....well at least consciously know he was stoned.
Richter KP, Levy S. Big Marijuana - Lessons from Big Tobacco. New England Journal of Medicine 2014:10-9.
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1406074
Washington State and Colorado went further, authorizing the retail sale of marijuana and opening the door to a legal marijuana industry. Given the lessons learned from the 20th-century rise of another legal addictive substance, tobacco, we believe that such an industry could transform marijuana and its effects on public health. Like tobacco, marijuana harms health and is addictive; unlike alcohol, both tobacco and marijuana came of age after the Industrial Revolution.
And although the United States has, since tobacco's rise, adopted regulatory structures designed to protect consumers, they do not apply to marijuana, in part because marijuana use and sales remain illegal under federal law. Colorado and Washington are developing regulatory infrastructures to fill this gap, but the goals and potential effectiveness of their proposed regulations are unclear. No evidence exists regarding which regulations might minimize population harm from marijuana. The marijuana industry's trajectory could therefore repeat tobacco's.
In theory, any revenues from sales of marijuana products should pay for all regulation and harms so that society will not have to pick up the tab for damage done by the product. However, we know from the history of tobacco that this is hard to implement in practice.
History and current evidence suggest that simply legalizing marijuana, and giving free rein to the resulting industry, is not the answer. To do so would be to once again entrust private industry with safeguarding the health of the public — a role that it is not designed to handle.
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1406074
Washington State and Colorado went further, authorizing the retail sale of marijuana and opening the door to a legal marijuana industry. Given the lessons learned from the 20th-century rise of another legal addictive substance, tobacco, we believe that such an industry could transform marijuana and its effects on public health. Like tobacco, marijuana harms health and is addictive; unlike alcohol, both tobacco and marijuana came of age after the Industrial Revolution.
And although the United States has, since tobacco's rise, adopted regulatory structures designed to protect consumers, they do not apply to marijuana, in part because marijuana use and sales remain illegal under federal law. Colorado and Washington are developing regulatory infrastructures to fill this gap, but the goals and potential effectiveness of their proposed regulations are unclear. No evidence exists regarding which regulations might minimize population harm from marijuana. The marijuana industry's trajectory could therefore repeat tobacco's.
In theory, any revenues from sales of marijuana products should pay for all regulation and harms so that society will not have to pick up the tab for damage done by the product. However, we know from the history of tobacco that this is hard to implement in practice.
History and current evidence suggest that simply legalizing marijuana, and giving free rein to the resulting industry, is not the answer. To do so would be to once again entrust private industry with safeguarding the health of the public — a role that it is not designed to handle.
Us a good water bong to filter, vapor or make a tea or butter
Voltrader
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I actually see the full problem of becoming a federal legalized product is that big companies come in add to just the pure plant. Kind of like tobacco there are so many additives in cigarettes then just pure tobacco. At least in this decriminalized environment most growers are small enterprisers growing a legit 100% pure product. I think the only government involvement is let the risk be known and at the rate we consume information these days people will know the inherent risks. I understand regulations and they need to be put in place to protect the consumer and not the company but the consumer does not have lobbyist.
I prefer it to remain at the state level and continued decriminalization on the Fed level.
You mean to tell me it wasn't the weed? How dare you! I have given it up but it had to be the weed and not the booze. Weed is illegal man. Doesn't that mean it's bad for you? Cheers! JK
Booze kills....weed enlightens! lol! Shit, I can't stop laughing...or eating!
The difference between legalisation and decriminalisation
http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2014/06/economist-explains-10
THE war on cannabis seems to be slowly burning out. On June 12th Jamaica announced that it plans to decriminalise possession of small amounts of the drug. Several countries, including Mexico and Portugal, have already taken this step, and many others are considering it: last week the West Africa Commission on Drugs, appointed by the Kofi Annan Foundation, published a report arguing that minor drug offences should be decriminalised. Meanwhile, a handful of other jurisdictions—so far only Uruguay and the states of Colorado and Washington—have taken a different approach, not decriminalising but instead legalising cannabis. Many people mistakenly use the terms “legalisation” and “decriminalisation” interchangeably.
What is the difference?
http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2014/06/economist-explains-10
THE war on cannabis seems to be slowly burning out. On June 12th Jamaica announced that it plans to decriminalise possession of small amounts of the drug. Several countries, including Mexico and Portugal, have already taken this step, and many others are considering it: last week the West Africa Commission on Drugs, appointed by the Kofi Annan Foundation, published a report arguing that minor drug offences should be decriminalised. Meanwhile, a handful of other jurisdictions—so far only Uruguay and the states of Colorado and Washington—have taken a different approach, not decriminalising but instead legalising cannabis. Many people mistakenly use the terms “legalisation” and “decriminalisation” interchangeably.
What is the difference?
Legal Pot in the US Is Crippling Mexican Cartels
https://news.vice.com/article/legal-pot-in-the-us-is-crippling-mexican-cartels
Now, those cartels and their farmers complain that marijuana legalization is hurting their business. And some reports could suggest that the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) is more interested in helping to protect the Mexican cartels’ hold on the pot trade than in letting it dissipate.
The Washington Post reported on Tuesday that http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/tracing-the-us-heroin-surge-back-south-of-the-border-as-mexican-cannabis-output-falls/2014/04/06/58dfc590-2123-4cc6-b664-1e5948960576_story.html (pot farmers in the Sinaloa region have stopped planting) due to a massive drop in wholesale prices, from $100 per kilo down to only $25. One farmer is quoted as saying: “It’s not worth it anymore. I wish the Americans would stop with this legalization.”
Former DEA senior intelligence specialist Sean Dunagan told VICE News that, although it’s too early to verify the numbers: “Anything to establish a regulated legal market will necessarily cut into those profits. And it won’t be a viable business for the Mexican cartels — the same way bootleggers disappeared after prohibition fell.”
Given the DEA’s historic relationship with the Sinaloa cartel, and the agency’s fury over legalized marijuana, it almost seems like the DEA wants to crush the legal weed market in order to protect the interests of their cartel friends. Almost.
“The DEA doesn’t want the drug war to end,” said Nelson, when asked about a possible connection between the agency’s hatred of legal pot and its buddies in Sinaloa. “If it ends, they don’t get their toys and their budgets. Once it ends, they aren’t going to have the kind of influence in foreign government. I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but where there’s smoke there’s probably fire.”
https://news.vice.com/article/legal-pot-in-the-us-is-crippling-mexican-cartels
Now, those cartels and their farmers complain that marijuana legalization is hurting their business. And some reports could suggest that the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) is more interested in helping to protect the Mexican cartels’ hold on the pot trade than in letting it dissipate.
The Washington Post reported on Tuesday that http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/tracing-the-us-heroin-surge-back-south-of-the-border-as-mexican-cannabis-output-falls/2014/04/06/58dfc590-2123-4cc6-b664-1e5948960576_story.html (pot farmers in the Sinaloa region have stopped planting) due to a massive drop in wholesale prices, from $100 per kilo down to only $25. One farmer is quoted as saying: “It’s not worth it anymore. I wish the Americans would stop with this legalization.”
Former DEA senior intelligence specialist Sean Dunagan told VICE News that, although it’s too early to verify the numbers: “Anything to establish a regulated legal market will necessarily cut into those profits. And it won’t be a viable business for the Mexican cartels — the same way bootleggers disappeared after prohibition fell.”
Given the DEA’s historic relationship with the Sinaloa cartel, and the agency’s fury over legalized marijuana, it almost seems like the DEA wants to crush the legal weed market in order to protect the interests of their cartel friends. Almost.
“The DEA doesn’t want the drug war to end,” said Nelson, when asked about a possible connection between the agency’s hatred of legal pot and its buddies in Sinaloa. “If it ends, they don’t get their toys and their budgets. Once it ends, they aren’t going to have the kind of influence in foreign government. I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but where there’s smoke there’s probably fire.”
tileguy123
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i just grew some really nice silver tip.. kindof like grand daddy purp.. took two hits, and now I have gyno, HELP
The Budgetary Impact of Ending Drug Prohibition
http://www.cato.org/publications/white-paper/budgetary-impact-ending-drug-prohibition
This report estimates that legalizing drugs would save roughly $41.3 billion per year in government expenditure on enforcement of prohibition. Of these savings, $25.7 billion would accrue to state and local governments, while $15.6 billion would accrue to the federal government.
Approximately $8.7 billion of the savings would result from legalization of marijuana and $32.6 billion from legalization of other drugs.
The report also estimates that drug legalization would yield tax revenue of $46.7 billion annually, assuming legal drugs were taxed at rates comparable to those on alcohol and tobacco. Approximately $8.7 billion of this revenue would result from legalization of marijuana and $38.0 billion from legalization of other drugs.
http://www.cato.org/publications/white-paper/budgetary-impact-ending-drug-prohibition
This report estimates that legalizing drugs would save roughly $41.3 billion per year in government expenditure on enforcement of prohibition. Of these savings, $25.7 billion would accrue to state and local governments, while $15.6 billion would accrue to the federal government.
Approximately $8.7 billion of the savings would result from legalization of marijuana and $32.6 billion from legalization of other drugs.
The report also estimates that drug legalization would yield tax revenue of $46.7 billion annually, assuming legal drugs were taxed at rates comparable to those on alcohol and tobacco. Approximately $8.7 billion of this revenue would result from legalization of marijuana and $38.0 billion from legalization of other drugs.
A Half-Smoked Joint
Decriminalising drugs leaves the crooks with the cash. Legalise drugs instead
http://www.economist.com/news/leade...cash-legalise-drugs-instead-half-smoked-joint
“I’M GONNA smoke’a de ganja until I go blind,” sang Bob Marley. “You know I smoke’a de ganja all a de time.” Jamaicans who share his devotion to cannabis have long risked arrest. But this month the government said it intended to decriminalise possession of small amounts of the drug. Several countries in Europe and Latin America have already taken this step. On the day that Jamaica announced its plans, a report commissioned by the Kofi Annan Foundation argued that minor drug offences should be decriminalised in West Africa to reduce violence and corruption.
After decades of failure it is hardly surprising that people are seeking alternatives to the ruinously expensive, bloody “war on drugs”. Prohibiting narcotics has failed to prevent an increase in their use, mainly in the rich world but increasingly in emerging markets (Brazil is now the world’s biggest customer of crack cocaine). At the same time it has enriched the criminal mafias which spread corruption and murder from London’s East End to Tijuana’s barrios, and which threaten to make failed states of countries in Africa and Latin America. Even Britain’s official advisory panel on drugs opposed the government’s move this week to criminalise khat, a mild and little-known stimulant whose users may now turn to more harmful alternatives.
So reform is needed, but is decriminalisation the right approach? Jamaica has proposed that people caught with up to two ounces (57 grams) of cannabis should be fined but not arrested or taken to court. Similarly, drug users in Portugal can be forced to attend classes to get them back on the straight and narrow. Italy confiscates pot-smokers’ driving licences. These lenient penalties save thousands of young people from being branded with criminal records, and spare taxpayers the expense of arresting, trying and jailing them. Jamaica’s police, battling one of the world’s highest murder rates, have better things to do than fill the country’s jails with people whose crime is to have consumed something less potent than their island’s rum. It is madder still that Sierra Leone or Guinea should devote their meagre resources to stopping adults getting high.
But decriminalisation is only half the answer. As long as supplying drugs remains illegal, the business will remain a criminal monopoly. Jamaica’s gangsters will continue to enjoy total control over the ganja market. They will go on corrupting police, murdering their rivals and pushing their products to children. People who buy cocaine in Portugal face no criminal consequences, but their euros still end up paying the wages of the thugs who saw off heads in Latin America. For the producer countries, going easy on drug-users while insisting that the product remain illegal is the worst of all worlds.
Stir it up
That is why decriminalisation makes sense only as a step towards legalisation. Jamaica and other countries frustrated with the current regime should adopt the policy pioneered by brave Uruguay, Colorado and Washington state, the only places in the world to put criminals out of business. By legalising cannabis from cultivation to retail, these places have snatched the industry away from crooks and given it to law-abiding entrepreneurs. Unlike the mafia, they pay tax and obey rules on where, when and to whom they can sell their products. Money saved on policing weed can be spent on chasing real criminals, or on treatment for addicts.
Steps away from prohibition are to be welcomed. But half-measures could be as dangerous as overdoses.
Decriminalising drugs leaves the crooks with the cash. Legalise drugs instead
http://www.economist.com/news/leade...cash-legalise-drugs-instead-half-smoked-joint
“I’M GONNA smoke’a de ganja until I go blind,” sang Bob Marley. “You know I smoke’a de ganja all a de time.” Jamaicans who share his devotion to cannabis have long risked arrest. But this month the government said it intended to decriminalise possession of small amounts of the drug. Several countries in Europe and Latin America have already taken this step. On the day that Jamaica announced its plans, a report commissioned by the Kofi Annan Foundation argued that minor drug offences should be decriminalised in West Africa to reduce violence and corruption.
After decades of failure it is hardly surprising that people are seeking alternatives to the ruinously expensive, bloody “war on drugs”. Prohibiting narcotics has failed to prevent an increase in their use, mainly in the rich world but increasingly in emerging markets (Brazil is now the world’s biggest customer of crack cocaine). At the same time it has enriched the criminal mafias which spread corruption and murder from London’s East End to Tijuana’s barrios, and which threaten to make failed states of countries in Africa and Latin America. Even Britain’s official advisory panel on drugs opposed the government’s move this week to criminalise khat, a mild and little-known stimulant whose users may now turn to more harmful alternatives.
So reform is needed, but is decriminalisation the right approach? Jamaica has proposed that people caught with up to two ounces (57 grams) of cannabis should be fined but not arrested or taken to court. Similarly, drug users in Portugal can be forced to attend classes to get them back on the straight and narrow. Italy confiscates pot-smokers’ driving licences. These lenient penalties save thousands of young people from being branded with criminal records, and spare taxpayers the expense of arresting, trying and jailing them. Jamaica’s police, battling one of the world’s highest murder rates, have better things to do than fill the country’s jails with people whose crime is to have consumed something less potent than their island’s rum. It is madder still that Sierra Leone or Guinea should devote their meagre resources to stopping adults getting high.
But decriminalisation is only half the answer. As long as supplying drugs remains illegal, the business will remain a criminal monopoly. Jamaica’s gangsters will continue to enjoy total control over the ganja market. They will go on corrupting police, murdering their rivals and pushing their products to children. People who buy cocaine in Portugal face no criminal consequences, but their euros still end up paying the wages of the thugs who saw off heads in Latin America. For the producer countries, going easy on drug-users while insisting that the product remain illegal is the worst of all worlds.
Stir it up
That is why decriminalisation makes sense only as a step towards legalisation. Jamaica and other countries frustrated with the current regime should adopt the policy pioneered by brave Uruguay, Colorado and Washington state, the only places in the world to put criminals out of business. By legalising cannabis from cultivation to retail, these places have snatched the industry away from crooks and given it to law-abiding entrepreneurs. Unlike the mafia, they pay tax and obey rules on where, when and to whom they can sell their products. Money saved on policing weed can be spent on chasing real criminals, or on treatment for addicts.
Steps away from prohibition are to be welcomed. But half-measures could be as dangerous as overdoses.
Kubrick
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Wow! The title alone is mind blowing. Thanks for sharing this article. Now is the time to end this prohibition. Marijuana needs to be legalized!
Perhaps. The more drugs that are legalized the less need for Law Enforcement officials. Legalizing marijuana nationally will cut DEA regulators.
Exactly. Many attribute prohibition with alcohol as the catalyst for the mafia and in modern times, making drugs illicit has financed the drug cartels and Latin-American gangs as well as petty gangs and thugs. I've read recent articles suggesting that the resources dedicated to drugs put a manpower tax on other violent crimes, contributing to a high rate of unsolved violent crime. Additionally, the "War on Drugs" was an excuse to violate the 4th amendment.
The Real Reason Pot Is Still Illegal
Opponents of marijuana-law reform insist that legalization is dangerous—but the biggest threat is to their own bottom line.
http://www.thenation.com/article/180493/anti-pot-lobbys-big-bankroll
Opponents of marijuana-law reform insist that legalization is dangerous—but the biggest threat is to their own bottom line.
http://www.thenation.com/article/180493/anti-pot-lobbys-big-bankroll
Dopeless in Seattle: legalised cannabis prompts pot shortage
Washington today becomes the second US state after Colorado to open recreational cannabis shops – but a pot shortage awaits
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-legalised-cannabis-prompts-pot-shortage.html
Washington today becomes the second US state after Colorado to open recreational cannabis shops – but a pot shortage awaits
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-legalised-cannabis-prompts-pot-shortage.html
cazper
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I laugh everytime I see the word shortage with weed.. a weed this shit grows and multiplies like crazy fuck the amount they can grow every 3-6mnths shortage is a joke..
cazper
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Cannabis truely is an amazing plant and needs to be legalized.
And legalize and regulate aas too while your at it (X-D)
And legalize and regulate aas too while your at it (X-D)
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