Mass Spec Thread

[Thor]

I agree with that but if a source puts 5 grams of powder instead of 2.5 his dosage would be correct but the purity would still be 50%

Agreed GB however I think the issue is what's the other 50%?? Could be contraceptive powder. Purity is definitely a big deal. Different than dosage to some extent but still very important. I assume that higher purity would certainly be indicative of dosage though.

 

[Gettinbig]

Agreed GB however I think the issue is what's the other 50%?? Could be contraceptive powder. Purity is definitely a big deal. Different than dosage to some extent but still very important. I assume that higher purity would certainly be indicative of dosage though.

I completely agree with the concerns. Purity is a big deal but we know it's not another hormone because it passes labmax

 

[flythechildren]

Mythotic you are the freaking man bro, we all owe you a huge thank you.

MFL I couldnt be more disappointed in you guys a mainstay here making a fortune off this board meanwhile taking zero precautions to make sure members are getting quality safe gear. You guys have shot the golden goose.

Htp You will surely be receiving an order from me in the near future I can measure my own var out no problem. These tests are finally a way to weed out the men among the boys. A complete game changer.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but since MFL had Tren A test at 53 percent, and the source they used tested at 80 percent, that means they were underdosing the gear they made, in addition to the gear they were getting being impure. Ricky didn't just fail to test, he purposely underdosed the gear himself.

 

[biebs111]

it is possible that it was a different batch of tren. QR is a reseller.

 

[flythechildren]

it is possible that it was a different batch of tren. QR is a reseller.

Definitely true. I admit that I am biased in that I want to believe my raw source is not the one scamming people.

 

[showstoppa]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but since MFL had Tren A test at 53 percent, and the source they used tested at 80 percent, that means they were underdosing the gear they made, in addition to the gear they were getting being impure. Ricky didn't just fail to test, he purposely underdosed the gear himself.

Do you have a test showing it was 80% pure from a 3rd party? I highly doubt any source would go through the trouble of cutting a powder, that's is just stupid.

 

[biebs111]

Definitely true. I admit that I am biased in that I want to believe my raw source is not the one scamming people.

Also, the mass spec said that they had roughly 80-100mg of powder dissolved in 1ml of oil, and the dissolved powder was 53% pure. not to mention they sold ricky birth control instead of test prop. so theres that...

 

[biebs111]

Do you have a test showing it was 80% pure from a 3rd party? I highly doubt any source would go through the trouble of cutting a powder, that's is just stupid.

earlier on this thread, someone sent Tren A oil brewed with QR raws and it tested at 80-85% i forget.

 

[flythechildren]

Do you have a test showing it was 80% pure from a 3rd party? I highly doubt any source would go through the trouble of cutting a powder, that's is just stupid.

Myth tested QR Tren A at 80%. What I am implying is that MFL got the 80 percent Tren, and then diluted the tren solution on his own to bring it down to 53.

 

[showstoppa]

Different batches prolly. A powder source as big as him goes through a product like tren a fast.

 

[flythechildren]

Different batches prolly. A powder source as big as him goes through a product like tren a fast.

Yeah. Like I said, I'm biased against thinking my source isn't up to snuff, even though it's likely that it isn't.

 

[biebs111]

Yeah. Like I said, I'm biased against thinking my source isn't up to snuff, even though it's likely that it isn't.

well unless ricky is lying, then they supplied the bunk prop. much worse imo than impure or underdosed.

 

[flythechildren]

I just had this response from Lee at Qualityraws.

"The methodology of that test is questionable I’m afraid as products do not leave the Factory unless 98%+ for all compounds except Equipoise which is slightly lower at 97%. Underground testers that most have access to tend to use the same method for all compounds, which is incorrect, so they will say that they see up to 99% for some compounds but never over 80% (for example) for others – this isn’t reality just a flaw in their methodology. It seems odd to suggest that China has to resources to produce every one of these compounds but somehow lack the know how to refine the product, given that the three main Factories are constantly trying to get an edge on the others.


The person who retails the Steroid powders is the one claiming 56% purity, he did post those “results” in the Forum after trying to blackmail us for weeks trying to get his most recent Order for free on our purity guarantee (but failing to meet ANY of the requirements that prevent us being scammed) or he would “destroy our reputation” – he was laughed at in his own thread for outrageously silly claims before he began trying to sabotage the Forum and he got banned. He also owns a Steroid lab on Eroids and is in with the same crowd (mods/admins) who banned us from there when we were getting too popular because we sell Steroid powders - yet if you have a look you will still find other company’s on there selling powders today.


Normal people tend to believe the negative things they read about a Business in this field even where it is 1000:1 positive to negative, but we see it time and time again competitors playing VERY foul to damage the rep of others for no reason at all."

 

[incrediblebulk]

Yeah. Like I said, I'm biased against thinking my source isn't up to snuff, even though it's likely that it isn't.

in the mfl thread Ricky stated that his test prop that contained contraceptives came from quality

 

[biebs111]

if you look at astros powder source thread, i think he went after QR as well. this is only regarding the tren A. honestly, i am much less concerned by the underdosed Tren A than i am by the Test prop. that is the issue that really need addressing.

 

[flythechildren]

in the mfl thread Ricky stated that his test prop that contained contraceptives came from quality

Ok. Did he have those tested? I'd like to get to the bottom of this, so unless he had those raws tested, and it was confirmed that they were contraceptives, and he has those lab results to prove it, I don't believe it. For all I know he could be putting out bunk product to make extra cash because he is working for another source that is paying him to tank QR's reputation. In fact, what I just described is the most likely scenario to me, because I know many people who have a lot of experience with QR, and none of them have reported anything but good results, and they confirm their blood levels of test with blood work.

 

[incrediblebulk]

I injected the test prop bro. It had contraceptives. I could not get off if I was boning Jennifer Aniston. They failed labmax

 

[biebs111]

maybe QR only sent garbage to the bulk suppliers, hoping that they could move 3-4 kilos of junk before someone caught on? or maybe they didnt know? i think it would be prudent for someone to send some more samples for testing. perhaps order some test prop from QR and send it to myth for a mass spec?

 

[showstoppa]

I can tell you qr is telling the truth about the powders not leaving the factory unless its very pure according to their test. Problem is the stupid fucks dont understand the testing they use. They use hplc column when they should be using mass spec.

Think of it like this

If I have a glass and I feel it half with whisky and half water. The hplc test set to detect the purity of whisky will filter out everything but the whisky and test just the purity of it, no impurities etc. So of course if I showed you that test you would say hey its 100% whisky. But if we mass specd it, it would show 50% water, 50% whisky.

You tell me is a glass of half whisky half water 100% whisky?

I hope I explained it ok. Ill link a post angus made in this very subject.

 

[flythechildren]

I injected the test prop bro. It had contraceptives. I could not get off if I was boning Jennifer Aniston. They failed labmax

That is troubling for sure.