Perfect explanation. Thank you sir.
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Gettinbig
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This statement is not true. Mythotik himself in this thread said it was dosed at 85-95mg. The test conclusion says that 100mg/ml is slightly overestimated. What does slightly mean?
Definition:
to a small degree; not considerable
synonyms:a little, a bit, somewhat, rather,moderately, to a certain extent, faintly,vaguely, a shade, a touch
I asked mythotik about that and he said it could be pretty close to 100mg/ml.
It doesn't matter how much powder is desolved in the oil, it will still read 53% purity. The test tests the purity of the powder not the dosage.
If the powder is only half pure (53% in this case) and you double the raw powder then your mg should be correct but it will still test 53% pure cause the dissolved powder isn't 100% pure
So to be clear: do we actually know what the amount of actual hormone per ml was or do we only know the purity of the powder? If there is a hard number for the actual dose of tren per ml, please state it clearly.
Gettinbig
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That's what most of these guys aren't understanding. It wasn't tested for dosage but rather for purity.
No
Thank you
incrediblebulk
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We do know from guys that have run tren before that it's vastly underdosed. I was running it for 2.5 weeks with no sides at all @100mg eod. Other brothers had similar experiences. I got pissed and blasted 150mg then I finally got a little night sweat. Nothing major either. Bed wasn't soaked like good tren
Gettinbig
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Even if it is dosed at the lower end of what mythotik says, you still were pinning 125mg of tren when you pinned 1.5ml. So to go by sides isn't something that one can necessarily go off of.
incrediblebulk
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so this isn't accurate?
Gettinbig
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Not according to the mythotik and he is the one testing...
The specific words used is "100mg/ml is slightly overestimated". Nowhere does it speak of the the amount of powder that is actually in the oil.
Gb the 100mg/ml being slightly over stated is referring to the amount of powder disolved according to what myth explained to me earlier in the thread and from angus has explained on eroids.(angus does a ton of ms test over there).
The purity is the % of the dissolved powder that is actually tren. But like myth said without a hplc test we can not know exactly what the dosage is. So the product was closer to 50mg/ml.
At that dose though it should have stopped still given decent gains just not much in the way of sides
The purity is the % of the dissolved powder that is actually tren. But like myth said without a hplc test we can not know exactly what the dosage is. So the product was closer to 50mg/ml.
At that dose though it should have stopped still given decent gains just not much in the way of sides
Gb this is how myth explained it when I asked this specific question. Quoted from the top of page 6.
Gettinbig
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This was his answer to the dosage of tren in 1ml
Then he has contradicted himself..
This is how angus explained it
"Purity is the number of ions of our target compound that reside in the suspension
Potency is the total number of ions in the suspension
A source can make a 10ML vial that is 250mg/ml for a grand total of 2,500mg or, simplified, 2.5grams. They physically put the 2.5g of powder in the suspension. But if the powder only has a 50% purity then the Active Pharmaceutical Ingredient is only 1.25G, or 125mg/ml. This is where a lot of people get confused and think their source is screwing them and the source is insistent that they are using the proper dosage. Both are right and both are getting screwed by the sources manufacturer."
So it should around 45mg/ml
"Purity is the number of ions of our target compound that reside in the suspension
Potency is the total number of ions in the suspension
A source can make a 10ML vial that is 250mg/ml for a grand total of 2,500mg or, simplified, 2.5grams. They physically put the 2.5g of powder in the suspension. But if the powder only has a 50% purity then the Active Pharmaceutical Ingredient is only 1.25G, or 125mg/ml. This is where a lot of people get confused and think their source is screwing them and the source is insistent that they are using the proper dosage. Both are right and both are getting screwed by the sources manufacturer."
So it should around 45mg/ml
Gettinbig
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I agree with that but if a source puts 5 grams of powder instead of 2.5 his dosage would be correct but the purity would still be 50%
Yea I understand that but the statement that the dosage is slightly overstated tells us that isn't true.
Gettinbig
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I agree brother. The only point I have been trying to make is that according to mythotik, it's not as under dosed as everyone is making it out to be.
You are making valid points though and I will say keep up the work you have been doing.
Gb here is an example on er that angus did
Angus has also talked about hplc being able to give exact dosage but for injectable we want to know purity of the compound so we know what we are injectable. Imo hplc is better for orals and ms for.injectables. now for things like gh and peptides where we need to know exactly how much is in it we need hplc done.
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http://www.eroids.com/pics/stealths-test-e-300-mass-specsAngus has also talked about hplc being able to give exact dosage but for injectable we want to know purity of the compound so we know what we are injectable. Imo hplc is better for orals and ms for.injectables. now for things like gh and peptides where we need to know exactly how much is in it we need hplc done.
