Mass Spec Thread

[flythechildren]

maybe QR only sent garbage to the bulk suppliers, hoping that they could move 3-4 kilos of junk before someone caught on? or maybe they didnt know? i think it would be prudent for someone to send some more samples for testing. perhaps order some test prop from QR and send it to myth for a mass spec?

This is a very plausible scenario, and QR has economic incentive to do this. It would drive people away from the labs and more people would homebrew, which he would then supply with high quality powder. This would increase his marketshare and undercut the labs.

 

[incrediblebulk]

That is troubling for sure.

who knows where the problem lies really like you said but there is a problem somewhere

 

[flythechildren]

I can tell you qr is telling the truth about the powders not leaving the factory unless its very pure according to their test. Problem is the stupid fucks dont understand the testing they use. They use hplc column when they should be using mass spec.

Think of it like this

If I have a glass and I feel it half with whisky and half water. The hplc test set to detect the purity of whisky will filter out everything but the whisky and test just the purity of it, no impurities etc. So of course if I showed you that test you would say hey its 100% whisky. But if we mass specd it, it would show 50% water, 50% whisky.

You tell me is a glass of half whisky half water 100% whisky?

I hope I explained it ok. Ill link a post angus made in this very subject.

Thanks for the post. I would love to see the other post Angus made

 

[flythechildren]

I'd like to add that I have an od batch of Tren A and Test E that I will volunteer for testing. I also have a new order coming in sometime this week. I'll provide samples to whoever is doing the testing, but I can't pay for it.

 

[mercury]

it would be interesting it the testing could pinpoint eventually source of good quality powder.

 

[clamz]

Sry its from another board but probably from the same guy.http://www.eroids.com/pics/power-pharma-cutstack-225-mass-spec-by-angus

 

[showstoppa]

Also guys anybody that has testing done on finished orals performed, it would be best if an hplc column test was performed. When ingesting orally purity matters less and hplc will give the actual mg per tablet and it will be of the actual active ingredient.

 

[TruBodybuilder1989]

Also guys anybody that has testing done on finished orals performed, it would be best if an hplc column test was performed. When ingesting orally purity matters less and hplc will give the actual mg per tablet and it will be of the actual active ingredient.

same applies for caps?

 

[showstoppa]

Well caps are not dense like a tablet so its much easier to get a true read of whats in there purity wise but the purity will be of all the contents of the cap. Which will give you some obscure low purity. If you know the exact weight of the fillers and powders inside the caps you can get a somewhat accurate idea of the mg per cap. Hplc will tell you exactly but it cost more so its really up to the customer that is paying for the test.

 

[conquistador]

I think my balls are not making 100% pure testosterone. How do i test for it? I cant grow off of em. Anyways how come im a new member now and bb69 is banned? Why is the website looking so sexy? How come Astro hasnt been caught by the police? Why is the forum still swarming with Naps shills? Its been a while...

 

[noah_k]

hey, welcome back conquistador

I'm still catching up as well...

Ben thread is here: https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/biggerben-mia.134355428/

Forums were upgraded to a different setup

 

[whodatnation]

I don't care if you like him or not. BB was good people. Rough on the edges but definitely will be nice to see him come back. Thank you for posting that thread Noah as I missed it while I was on a turn around. Knew he was in the slammer but that makes things better.Welome to meso newb lol

 

[MythotiK]

Test

 

[calfcramp]

Different batches prolly. A powder source as big as him goes through a product like tren a fast.

When ordering the same product on different occasions from QR the powders looked vastly different. That has also been the case w/ all of my orders from sources. Being the case a consistent source for simply quantitation and structure confirmation with in 5% is important. Otherwise, with the inconsistencies, determining the occasional percent composition is a waste of time.

 

[pumpingiron22]

So out of curiosity what exact model would be needed? If we all put together a funds. You can find equipment on ebay also some time these universities sell of there old equipment. Maybe something to keep our eyes out for.

 

[calfcramp]

So out of curiosity what exact model would be needed? If we all put together a funds. You can find equipment on ebay also some time these universities sell of there old equipment. Maybe something to keep our eyes out for.

Interesting idea. They are pricey and you'll need software... Most are as much as a new car. http://conquerscientific.com/product/hewlett-packard-hp-5970b-gcms-system-with-5890-series-ii-plus-gc/

 

[calfcramp]

So out of curiosity what exact model would be needed? If we all put together a funds. You can find equipment on ebay also some time these universities sell of there old equipment. Maybe something to keep our eyes out for.

http://conquerscientific.com/lab-equipment/mass-spectrometers-gcms-systems/

 

[mercury]

I am sure that there is a lab in India or China to do analysis. The last lab in USA which responded when I was looking for analysis was in NJ and it was 10 years ago.

Since then no lab in USA would respond for steroid testing unless you know somebody in person.

 

[pumpingiron22]

thanks calf. I'll keep my eye's out.

 

[calfcramp]

I am sure that there is a lab in India or China to do analysis. The last lab in USA which responded when I was looking for analysis was in NJ and it was 10 years ago.

Since then no lab in USA would respond for steroid testing unless you know somebody in person.

There are FDA regs. There has to be contracts and documentation. Outsourcing is proving just as complicated.