Masteron as a growth promoter

[SandWalker73]

Not saying you are wrong, but also not agreeing 100%. Primo and Mast def work as well as other AAS. Look at Jordan Peters he has clients that grow like weed on test + primo.

My point being is what works for you may not work as well for others. I get nasty sides from test + npp and switched to test + primo and I fucking love it.

Talking about JP, here's a video of him on youtube, he for sure loves primo
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo5whLIDuLo


Also, could you give more insight about the sides you get from npp?

 

[Zmn71]

Jeez guys just try it and you will see how useless it Is outside a competition.

When I was following Chavez and after listening to a podcast from Dan a bodybuilder in Thailand, i decided to adventure to EQ and Masteron cycle.

Did 16weeks of 2g EQ + 1,4g MastE basically the only thing I had was a big prostate, strength was so so endurance and sex drive fine.

I could have better gains on just TestE EQ and a minimal dose of TrenE and much less mg.

I can't explain all this hype for Masteron.
Did you ever watch the guys that run those cycles? Most look like shit.

After reading and asking the most stupid questions on every forum i come to this conclusion.
Off-season is easy, run some test to make you feel good (not look like a bloated whale), a 19-nor (if low tren for some guys can be considered safe), some EQ/Primo if you want to add more mg, 4-6iu HGH daily (most will bloat as fuck on 10iu), Humalog prewo postwo (6iu will do the job).
When you retain a boatload of water because of the drugs you will feel like shit and digestion will be fucked up. Food will make us grow, it's all about that, not a sexy combination of 2g of Masteron.

Most of the guys i have seen growing at max rate used TestE EQ NPP, HGH and slin like above, and eat like no tomorrow....
I mean there's no secret about drugs nowadays, all these internet gurus are just there to make easy money.

EQ vs primo for off season? Both hit my estrogen equally so I’m torn.

 

[Jaxino]

Its interesting how useless is sharing your experience on this forum.... none even asked how tall I am.... Rofl.

 

[SandWalker73]

Its interesting how useless is sharing your experience on this forum.... none even asked how tall I am.... Rofl.

Uhm, good sir, I am, quiet honestly, eager to say the less, to get to know how tall is your wonderfulness?

 

[MegaDaveMustang]

5'10"

 

[drksanctuary]

Its interesting how useless is sharing your experience on this forum.... none even asked how tall I am.... Rofl.

Being 6' at around 220-230 at the time running close to 4 grams and not growing doesn't instill confidence on knowing what works.

The issue with you is that you've posted over 50 different cycles and if you search your name on here and prom and order by date, you'll see a consistent theme of jumping on every different cycle mentioned saying "maybe now I can finally grow". Low test, high test, eq, tren, deca, dhb, trestolone, 10 iu+ hgh, at least 200 on how to run insulin along with trying all of them and them not working, low dose, high dose, etc. It is abundantly clear, your issue with growing isn't about which drug or how much.

 

[narta]

It is abundantly clear, your issue with growing isn't about which drug or how much.

So much this on every "I have run grams of the stuff and you can't grow on it"

It's not the drugs dumbass

 

[Deleted member 59947]

So much this on every "I have run grams of the stuff and you can't grow on it"

It's not the drugs dumbass

If you run grams of test you will grow sitting on your couch and eating doritos.

If you run grams of MENT you will grow even while fasting and sleeping 24/7.

So yes, some drugs in high quantities make you grow regardless of the effort you put in.

 

[narta]

If you run grams of test you will grow sitting on your couch and eating doritos.

If you run grams of MENT you will grow even while fasting and sleeping 24/7.

So yes, some drugs in high quantities make you grow regardless of the effort you put in.

Sure if you run a gram of estradiol enanthate you will grow for sure. Fat with tits.

You know what I am talking about so let's not go there...

 

[Deleted member 59947]

Sure if you run a gram of estradiol enanthate you will grow for sure. Fat with tits.

You know what I am talking about so let's not go there...

Giving an extreme example that is completely besides the point because it employs feminine hormones, doesn't make you win the argument.

The postulate : "running grams of androgens will make you accrue muscle tissue regardless of nutrition and exercise" still holds true.

 

[Jin23]

If you run grams of test you will grow sitting on your couch and eating doritos.

If you run grams of MENT you will grow even while fasting and sleeping 24/7.

So yes, some drugs in high quantities make you grow regardless of the effort you put in.

This is ofc true, but the study which gave test to untrained people and saw them grow, will translate rather poorly to heavily trained "athletes". The amount of gear that would make people on this forum grow if they just "sat on a couch" is probably unrealistically high and for a lot of people here no amount of drugs can achieve this anymore.

 

[narta]

Giving an extreme example that is completely besides the point because it employs feminine hormones, doesn't make you win the argument.

Sure ruining grams of MENT is completely on point.

I know fuckfaces that run 2gr of test and cause they ate like birds and over trained like rabbits gained a shitone of injuries, but no muscle whatsoever.

 

[Rido]

Its interesting how useless is sharing your experience on this forum.... none even asked how tall I am.... Rofl.

Atleast for me, I wasn't really here to start an argument. so that's why I didn't.

 

[BouleauBoulot]

What is the advantage of Masteron compared to testosterone?
Masteron is less anabolic and will drastically reduce or even abolish estrogen, right?

 

[Rido]

What is the advantage of Masteron compared to testosterone?
Masteron is less anabolic and will drastically reduce or even abolish estrogen, right?

Just like any other dht.


This one in particular
Affects e2 receptors. Doesnt really Lower e2. Strength gains, aggression. Increases libido (test can also)

I would think test would generate more growth.

It's not about what is more anabolic or generates more growth cause then we would stick to one compound like test, run high, and run an AI.

 

[I6JQdr06]

What is the advantage of Masteron compared to testosterone?
Masteron is less anabolic and will drastically reduce or even abolish estrogen, right?

It’s dry, and it has more drive than testosterone. When I’m on it I want to train, I want to diet, I want to squeeze out another rep or add another 2.5kg plate to beat my PR.

It’s pretty good for enhancing proprioception too. In fact that might be its greatest strength for a performance enhancement point of view.

 

[HB_22]

It’s dry, and it has more drive than testosterone. When I’m on it I want to train, I want to diet, I want to squeeze out another rep or add another 2.5kg plate to beat my PR.

It’s pretty good for enhancing proprioception too. In fact that might be its greatest strength for a performance enhancement point of view.

Same. I feel a lot more Energy on let's say 500 test / 500 Mast than on 1g of test alone. High test makes me lethargic and sleepy as fuck.

 

[I6JQdr06]

It’s also good for people who specifically don’t want to gain weight (me). I’m making the assumption here that it does something to improve recovery, I never really worked out how to tell as my tendon strength is usually the limiting factor.

 

[freakyjacked29]

I’ve read mast can bound much stronger than testosterone I do like mast but nothing will beat high test for overall mass it’s shown to reduce follistatin (myostatin) possibly why it grows many thick large

 

[BouleauBoulot]

Same. I feel a lot more Energy on let's say 500 test / 500 Mast than on 1g of test alone. High test makes me lethargic and sleepy as fuck.

Surprisingly, I thought that dht and its derivatives were more sedative (weaker MAOIs, higher activity of GABA receptors...) than testosterone, especially when the aromatization is medium/high.