Maybe we don't need testosterone to grow muscle after all?

[Biggerisbetternl]

From this clip you might think that its not testosterone that gets you huge.
Seriously though, what are your theories on how these bloodvalues are possible with these physiques?

 

[monster8912]

I mean they could just come off cycle orrrrr its all fake just like everything that manlet nippard does

 

[Biggerisbetternl]

I mean they could just come off cycle orrrrr its all fake just like everything that manlet nippard does

If these guys are off cycle and look like that I can't imagine what they'd look like on cycle.. Besides he did say his intention is to uncover fake nattys why would he fake the tests, makes little sense ?

 

[Photon]

From this clip you might think that its not testosterone that gets you huge.
Seriously though, what are your theories on how these bloodvalues are possible with these physiques?

not everything shows up as test tho
high eq, tren, deca, orals etc

 

[Biggerisbetternl]

true, but he says other hormones tested normal too (you see LH levels at the end of the clip).

 

[IndividualMan]

I dont really care for jim nipples.
He farms reputation with normies for a decade plus and then throws it all out with this clownery.

 

[Biggerisbetternl]

Seems to be a lot of hate for Jeff on here. I think he's put out some solid content for years, though not everything as good as the other. Still personally I like that he explains scientific articles in his videos so I don't have to read.
He also seems trustworthy, except for maybe the being a natty part.

 

[monster8912]

That Hassan guy admitted to not being natty lol

 

[Duraclear]

The sooner you understand that every last one - I repeat, every last one - of these guys is a grifter, the better off you will be. Not a single one of them is trustworthy. The very nature of content creation to appease social media algorithms makes that an impossibility. They have every incentive to lie to you, zero incentive not to lie to you, and those who do not play the game do not show up in your feed. Period.

Obviously, they do occasionally happen to produce decent content from time to time, and some are slightly better or worse than others. But you absolutely cannot ever take what they say at face value without doing your own research, and you should always base your assessment of everything that they say with the foundational understanding that they are grifters who will say whatever they have to say to get you to click on their videos or buy their "coaching" programs.

 

[eery]

From this clip you might think that its not testosterone that gets you huge.
Seriously though, what are your theories on how these bloodvalues are possible with these physiques?

1. genetics in itself and the genetic response to training, diet and drugs. Look at lee priest, kevin levrone, ronnie coleman, nick walker vs your average gymrat blasting 2g of gear, 10iu gh, eating and training properly.
2. people are liars
3. you dont need testosterone to build muscle, we have other AAS.

 

[shredded.lyfe]

Obviously..women train too

 

[bananafeet]

You don't need testosterone to build muscle or AAS.

You need it to hold onto muscle when you lean out...

You can fat max and get strong as fuck and big. Local IGF1/mtor goes up due insulin, lycene etc

I only added a few kgs to my lifts hopping on gear. But I look much different