Mentally fucked guy again

Dude, once your broken up and considered an ex, you, as well as she, have the right to see or screw whoever. There are no more ties so that negates the need for loyalty. 1) you shouldn’t have went through her phone. 2) if you absolutely have to go through her phone, never bring it up. Just keep it as interesting shit to know.

You fucked the dog on that one. Learn what broken up means.

OH, should've included, the texts to her ex were from when we weren't "broken up", the messaging started 2 or 3 days before that big break we had, but yea, I get where you're coming from.
 
Good call stink finger. Females will always have another option available before they leave the 1st option.
To be honest I'm starting to like this thread, All my friends are stable and rational this shit is entertaining.
 
Dating older women is the absolute worst thing you can do in your early 20's. Unless you like drama I guess.

Find a partner your age or a couple years younger. Thank me when you're not completely fucking miserable all the time.
 
It's never just one crazy person in a relationship. We find our own faults in others. Your goal should be to work on yourself, not her. I don't expect you'll take this advice, and I selfishly hope that you don't. Your dilemmas are very entertaining.
 
OH, should've included, the texts to her ex were from when we weren't "broken up", the messaging started 2 or 3 days before that big break we had, but yea, I get where you're coming from.

With many women i've dated, i've found that once they're tired of my shenanigans, a week or so prior to officially calling it quits, in their hearts, they had already let me go and were in the process of moving on.

Dating older women is the absolute worst thing you can do in your early 20's. Unless you like drama I guess.

And it's just the opposite when you're older and dating someone much younger. The key (i guess) would be to find someone of a similar age with similar interests at any age.
 
Well to be honest,

The thing is, i really do love her.
I think about her 24/7 and I really dont know whats right or wrong if you know what i mean.

Its really hard to tell, for todays meeting i dont plan anything too special, im doing our food and well eat that.
Im not going anywhere or dont do any romantic type of stuff, and well have a big talk about our issues.

But overall, i feel like having to do the most weird shit to make her see, how much i actually like her.

Not that ive not done some romantic shit the past few months when we were together, but im talking overboard stuff, you know, movie type of stuff.

I just cant get my head off of her obviously and she still kinda lets me know that there are feelings for me too, but shes way better at playing the "act hard" - kindof game.

I mean shes alot older so obviously she knows what kinda strings to pull to make me weak.

Its really hard to tell, whats right or wrong.

To be honest, im at this point of thinking to just fuck it, do gear again and go back to what i loved before i met her, which was doing my training and getting big.
Its like a relapse kind of feeling, and i try to stay away from those thoughts because i came off quite successfully and dont wanna ruin it again, just to make me get her out of my head fellas..

You're fixating, Bro.

Does she treat you well?

Consistently?

Does she come through or bail?

Consistently?

Does she go out of her way to make you feel wanted and appreciated?

Consistently?

Are you seeing a trend in my line of questions yet?

Move on.
 
Dating older women is the absolute worst thing you can do in your early 20's. Unless you like drama I guess.

Find a partner your age or a couple years younger. Thank me when you're not completely fucking miserable all the time.

Depends on the person, if it’s established that she is lucky to be dating some young stud vs the other way, and he is secure I don’t see a problem. I personally wouldn’t seriously date a much older woman, I would be down for a casual thing tho cause I like milfs lol
 
This is a mind fuck the whole love thing is more mental than anything the way I look at it is like a business we are partners trying to build a nice life together we are on the same page most of the time I give into the kids to easy. Where do you see your self latter in life with her being jealous and stir crazy most chicks not all will only leave if they all ready have somewhere to go. Dude going by the age on ur thing your to young to be wrapped up in that drama get out I get it I feel in love once when a chick told me to cum in her ass sad thing was so was everyone else while I footed the bill sometimes you got to walk away and call it a loss enough doctor Phil shit
 
Well thanks for all the replies fellas, I can say what I described above (finding text messages and such) was a kinda wake up call.

I can't really tell exactly what but we'll somethings changed the way I view this (past) relationship, I'm still figuring out what exactly makes me feel "better" now, and not as desperate as I was when I started this thread.

I put a lot of thoughts in the last few weeks and still try to figure out what I would want for me if you get what I mean, what the absolute best for myself would be, not only in regards to relationships, but in regards to job, training, hobbies etc...


.....on another note, I started bouncing again on weekends so it's kind of a stress reliever too, to get hit on by all kinds of girls.
Good distraction and nice side income again
 
Well thanks for all the replies fellas, I can say what I described above (finding text messages and such) was a kinda wake up call.

I can't really tell exactly what but we'll somethings changed the way I view this (past) relationship, I'm still figuring out what exactly makes me feel "better" now, and not as desperate as I was when I started this thread.

I put a lot of thoughts in the last few weeks and still try to figure out what I would want for me if you get what I mean, what the absolute best for myself would be, not only in regards to relationships, but in regards to job, training, hobbies etc...


.....on another note, I started bouncing again on weekends so it's kind of a stress reliever too, to get hit on by all kinds of girls.
Good distraction and nice side income again

Dude, the whole text messages thing.

If you EVER feel the urge to go through someone's phone again just end it there. Its obviously not working and that's a massively fucked up violation.

One bitch did that shit to me, she was fucking gone that night. No talking, no explanations, just me showing her the door.

Beyond fucked, regardless of whether or not you find something.
 
Dude, the whole text messages thing.

If you EVER feel the urge to go through someone's phone again just end it there. Its obviously not working and that's a massively fucked up violation.

One bitch did that shit to me, she was fucking gone that night. No talking, no explanations, just me showing her the door.

Beyond fucked, regardless of whether or not you find something.
If you cant trust her why bother being in a relationship with her?
 
Ghost her and move on. Went through a similar situation, except it was my wife. I keep a list in my phone of why I left that I look at everytime my brain starts remembering the good times. Trying to talk to a narcissist is fucking exhausting and they'll just keep using mental gymnastics to make the other person the one at fault. Best way to get over a girl is under another one.
 
That’s so god damn frustrating. For people who think rationally, it’s so fucking hard to come to terms with the fact that there are actually people like this that don’t own up to their own bullshit.

Trying to talk to a narcissist is fucking exhausting and they'll just keep using mental gymnastics to make the other person the one at fault.
 
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