Big Mike
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I was thinking 600mg per week too! But excellent results either way!
Big Mike
Big Mike
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***MESO Blood Work Testing Protocol***
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Honestly I wish it was a little less.
One week is 600mg and the next is 450mg. It's eod. I try not to "top it off" as well.
Big Mike
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So @Boilermech was right with 525mg! Man thats great results @AlphaCapa! What gear u running (brand, pharma)?
Big Mike
Spetz gear. But these results are not without great contriversy. Just check out his sub in the underground. You'll see. Nobody believes it but it's right there. It's even hard for me to believe. Shit. I actually feel a little uneasy being that high.
Aren't Dr Scallys numbers based off of test e/c and not test p?
If I remember correctly, test p has a higher actual mg of testosterone. Wouldn't that change the 8-10x rule to say 9-11x as an example?
Just curious on your guys thoughts on this! Also if he is running Spetz, he does claim he over doses his gear by a bit.
If I remember correctly, test p has a higher actual mg of testosterone. Wouldn't that change the 8-10x rule to say 9-11x as an example?
Just curious on your guys thoughts on this! Also if he is running Spetz, he does claim he over doses his gear by a bit.
Honestly, fuck if I know. I'm not physciologically gifted and I'm trying to make sense of this.
Dr. Scally might be on the money, he might not. There's so many factors that would skew the test one way or another. Factors I wouldn't even know about because I'm not as educated on it as well as I would like.
All I know is I followed protocol on here. Pin 24hrs before bloodwork, go in fasting.
Most people aren't on board with this but I don't care. I'll be doing a follow up in another 3 weeks and at 12 weeks to see the trending numbers. Maybe we'll all learn some cool shit.
I'm thinking of just going next week to see if the test was botched somehow.
Are you planning on going in at 24 hours after pin again? I would be curious to see how going in 4 hours earlier and 4 hours later changes the numbers, but that probably wouldn't matter if your test was somehow screwed up; I doubt it was though.
Call me crazy but I don't think it makes sense to use data from a source that we do not promote here on Meso. It would be different if it was a neutral source or just some random internet source.
It seemed suspect when the OP failed to mention his source when first posting his lab results.
I never ordered from Spetz nor do I care to. I vote we call this data a flier and toss it! Collecting this data IMO will only skew our findings. @Colt44 your thoughts?
It seemed suspect when the OP failed to mention his source when first posting his lab results.
I never ordered from Spetz nor do I care to. I vote we call this data a flier and toss it! Collecting this data IMO will only skew our findings. @Colt44 your thoughts?
Not to mention @AlphaCapa est. 90% of his posting are in the Spetz thread in his 1.5 month stay here!
That says it all!
No one believes it because you are a shill alpha. Large majority of your posts are you trying to stop the bleeding on the spetz thread then suddenly you pull a goofy lab report you photoshopped. No one is buying it and you don't put band-aids on sucking chest wounds. Those numbers are unattainable on pharma grade gear at the mgs you posted and the time you tested with any substance, much less test p. Another case of trying too hard. Give it up and move on. I had my doubts about your credibility prior to the bullshit tests, but now i am pretty damn certain.
Voltrader
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Alright lets ease up in here on @AlphaCapa we know what most of us think. This thread is for different ressons. We will include it in the data unless completely found to be skewed.
@AlphaCapa post your numbers and leave it at that. Please continue to post them. Community discuss alphas numbers and thoughts in spetz thread.I . This thread needs to stay on point.
As far as prop and more mg that does not apply in the finished labeling of a product. All my prop blood work has been in line with my other esters.
@AlphaCapa stay with protocol on any further testing please do not deviate it will help maybe just maybe with your rep.
@AlphaCapa post your numbers and leave it at that. Please continue to post them. Community discuss alphas numbers and thoughts in spetz thread.I . This thread needs to stay on point.
As far as prop and more mg that does not apply in the finished labeling of a product. All my prop blood work has been in line with my other esters.
@AlphaCapa stay with protocol on any further testing please do not deviate it will help maybe just maybe with your rep.
Why even consider to use the data when it's obvious that the data is questionable to say the least? If there is not a clearly defined criteria of "who" data is collected from than what we're doing here could possibly suffer.
Think about it, what's to stop the next AlphaCapa clown from posting up some BS to get their UGL sales inflated!
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Voltrader
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We have to be careful we do not want to discourage anybody from posting . There is a asterisk on this blood work so to speak here. I know what you are saying and understand completely. Just like any study the extremes are thrown out.
@Colt44 this test doesnt even matter because it is at the three week mark it and we need six week results anyways. We will wait and see his six week results.
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Colt44
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The data will be collected. We all know this is an anomaly. It will wash out when no one posts numbers near this range. If they do, they will be scrutinized in the same fashion as AC's results. I'll log it but even a blind man can see there's an issue.
As Volt said, we don't want to discourage people from posting. Especially if they are following the established protocol.
Not necessarily true Vol. He supposedly followed the protocol. He is running prop only. That requires a 14 day minimum and 24 hour post pin blood draw. 6 weeks is for TC/E
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Voltrader
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Ok good....look we all understand the questions to Alpha's blood work. We are also Meso suppose to be an uncensored forum. I don't feel we can censor alpha's test if we do we could discourage others. Now with the uncensored part we are all welcome to dispute it openly also. @Colt44 you are correct it is prop.
Not calling for you to censor Alpha's bloodwork. As always with statistics the facts and data will speak for itself. As you mentioned this is Meso and it would be a disservice for us to censor our right to give our opinion and call bull shit when we feel it is warranted.
I commend you guys for what you are doing in this thread. It has the potential to validate and answer a lot of questions that continue to surface. I will respect your thread and move on.
I commend you guys for what you are doing in this thread. It has the potential to validate and answer a lot of questions that continue to surface. I will respect your thread and move on.
Testosterone propionate does contain more testosterone in the compound due to the "lighter weight" of the propionate ester versus the longer esters. So the ratio of actual testosterone in testosterone propionate mg:mg is higher than enanthate and cypionate esters. However, this does not verify the authenticity of his bloodwork results.
Voltrader
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I know what you are saying but I believe when it comes to labeling and this is FDA standard you have to label the ACTUAL Testosterone available. So when it comes to labeling if it says 100 or 300 the ester does not matter it should be the actual amount of testosterone per ml. Also is not understood that brewers when buying raws is the same the actual stated amount Test is the amount of test. We have been in circles on this one but when it comes to labeling it should be the actual testosterone per ml.
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