Meso drug addicts

[Whoremoans]

Please think about what your doing man. At least eat them and stop shooting them. It will only get worse.

Personally, I dont have a problem with people taking pills for substance abuse as long as its from a doctor. At least its legal. Its been proven that true drug addiction is a medical disease. The brain and chemicals in the brain have been altered.

Get a script, get supervision, and please stop shooting up browski. That will only lead to worse things. You can do anything man. Gl.

Thanks brother. It's just so hard to stop. I don't wanna be on it at all. Using the strips under the tongue like they're made for just doesn't provide the effect I crave. The fast onset and the taste it leaves in my mouth when IVing it. I use a minuscule dose. Most guys get prescribed two strips a day. Two strips will last me two weeks. I just don't know how to stop.

 

[ronin17]

Thanks brother. It's just so hard to stop. I don't wanna be on it at all. Using the strips under the tongue like they're made for just doesn't provide the effect I crave. The fast onset and the taste it leaves in my mouth when IVing it. I use a minuscule dose. Most guys get prescribed two strips a day. Two strips will last me two weeks. I just don't know how to stop.

Maybe Methadone? I just hate the idea of you shooting up. That never ends well

 

[Mbell4377]

Thanks brother. It's just so hard to stop. I don't wanna be on it at all. Using the strips under the tongue like they're made for just doesn't provide the effect I crave. The fast onset and the taste it leaves in my mouth when IVing it. I use a minuscule dose. Most guys get prescribed two strips a day. Two strips will last me two weeks. I just don't know how to stop.

I work in the chemical dependency field and have a license to practice in my state. Obviously a thorough accessment would be needed but it sounds like you need to be professionally detoxed.
Stopping is a one day at a time thing, I'm just not gonna use today, even if I get sick due to withdrawal, and then day two, etc..



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[Whoremoans]

I work in the chemical dependency field and have a license to practice in my state. Obviously a thorough accessment would be needed but it sounds like you need to be professionally detoxed.
Stopping is a one day at a time thing, I'm just not gonna use today, even if I get sick due to withdrawal, and then day two, etc..



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I've been in a detox program before. Coming off suboxone is a hard one. The half life is so long that the withdrawal can last for weeks and weeks. It's just so difficult to put my life on hold like that. I know it's what I need and I'm making excuses. It's just not as simple as stopping in my position.

 

[Mbell4377]

I've been in a detox program before. Coming off suboxone is a hard one. The half life is so long that the withdrawal can last for weeks and weeks. It's just so difficult to put my life on hold like that. I know it's what I need and I'm making excuses. It's just not as simple as stopping in my position.

At least you know what you need, now you have to put the action behind the words. Take care bro, if you need some help or just want to vent, I'm available by pm etc...


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[Big_paul]

I can't admit this shit to anyone I know, I'm concerned with how I'd be looked at. I needed to just say it here.

My guess is if you start using it will not be a secret for long. You better get yourself some help and start hanging with people who understand what you are going through. You won't make it alone.

 

[Super Charge]

I've been through addiction myself. 2 years of heavy use, a year or so after of constant fuck ups.. It took my girl whom I had been with for 10 years to leave me and take our house we were buying, losing my job, and my money to get me clean. I struggled for a year after I was on my own. The only thing that saved me was my girl. Even though we didn't talk and she hated me for ruining her life and her planned future, I figured if I really got clean. Really clean, not just for a week or two, I could have my life back. I was right, by some miracle we tried again. We have now been together for 23 years (if I don't count the year we were apart). Got my house and my dogs back. If I didn't have that motivation I don't think I would be clean.
I still struggle even after 13 years clean. Put me in the wrong environment I don't think I could be trusted. The best thing is to surround yourself with people that have your back, no other addicts or users, doesn't matter how close they are to you. Sometimes it's for the best to be put in check like I was. I got fired from a dead-end job, fucking blessing. One guy I worked with still works there. I have since started my own businesses and have a mostly happy life. I just know I can't be around certain people.

"If you always do what you've always done you'll always get what you always got".

Words that repeated in my head after the regret of getting high.

I am a minor case compared to most in terms of years of use but I have lived a crazy life since I was young. I've seen it all.. Point being, I have many friends that have recoverd after decades of addiction. I've seen them at there worst and if they can do it so can you. Don't take it from me, I'm nobody. Take it from US, together we are strong. Reach out to your friends, family, forum members, whatever.. I may not know you, but I've got you.

To everyone relapsing or struggling to stay clean you can make it. Many of us have. Peace,

 

[desertwarrior]

I feel like I'm gonna finally need to seek help. I lost control today. I also beat the fuck out of a close friend for no apparent reason. I'm all fucked up and feeling like a real piece of shit. My job cannot find out about any of this either. But I almost feel like I need to check myself into rehab. Fuck guess I'm starting from scratch

 

[Mbell4377]

I feel like I'm gonna finally need to seek help. I lost control today. I also beat the fuck out of a close friend for no apparent reason. I'm all fucked up and feeling like a real piece of shit. My job cannot find out about any of this either. But I almost feel like I need to check myself into rehab. Fuck guess I'm starting from scratch

Can't speak for your situation but my hr dept said with a dr's letter writing you off work, they are not able to ask why. And all you need to return is a letter of release from treating dr.
Only reason I know is we just went through this with a couple employees.
And I work at a drug and alcohol treatment center...


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[Perrin Aybara]

I feel like I'm gonna finally need to seek help. I lost control today. I also beat the fuck out of a close friend for no apparent reason. I'm all fucked up and feeling like a real piece of shit. My job cannot find out about any of this either. But I almost feel like I need to check myself into rehab. Fuck guess I'm starting from scratch

Check yourself in somewhere now voluntarily before things get out of hand and the law checks you into a much worse place involuntarily. Trust me I've been there and been to both.

 

[D-Ballin]

I feel like I'm gonna finally need to seek help. I lost control today. I also beat the fuck out of a close friend for no apparent reason. I'm all fucked up and feeling like a real piece of shit. My job cannot find out about any of this either. But I almost feel like I need to check myself into rehab. Fuck guess I'm starting from scratch

What drug, what dose, and what stimulus to cause this?

If you don't want to answer, then i agree with your gut, and @Perrin Aybara . Get help asap.

Either way, get help asap. Fuck relapsing. Hell, i just did it, and let it get out of hand. It's no fun. And if you can't get what you need through the VA immediately, pay cash. It's still cheaper. . .

 

[Perrin Aybara]

The girl that introduced my current girlfriend and I back in 2005 overdosed on pills this month. 33 years old, three kids now without a mother. Every few months I hear about someone I used to party with dying like this. Hard to believe sometimes I'm one of the ones that made it out alive.

 

[Throwback]

I have been addicted to meth and cocaine in the past and was a pretty terrible person at that time in my life. I was a petty criminal and was pulling burglaries and armed robberies to support my habit. I joined the military and cleaned up. And until recently I thought those days had passed for good.
It seems though suddenly I've lost all grounding. I've managed to keep clean but mainly due to it not being around me anymore. I keep thinking about it. Or committing a violent robbery or crime. It makes no sense. I'm not struggling or anything.
I'm sorry for resurrecting this thread I know odiem was a phycho fuck. But I was finding it some what helpful. Im struggling more than I ever have(prob would have used if I had access). I can't admit this shit to anyone I know, I'm concerned with how I'd be looked at. I needed to just say it here.

Hey...if you need to talk or anything pm me. Been through all that shit coke meth and the worst one...opiates.
Except for opiates the others can be stopped with a decision of the will.
Opiates are lil harder...
Spent 5 years on 6-8 roxy 30s and a couple opanna kickers.
Finally got off em with subs but u have to be fucking careful and use them only long enough to get off the opiate.
Coming off suboxone or subutex makes opiate withdrawl look like a cakewalk.
Stay clean man...theres a shitload of us on here to talk to.

 

[Throwback]

I've struggled with opioid and heroin addiction for years and up until the past few months I had always snorted and smoked. Well now I finally graduated to IV use. I went for about 20 months completely sober. Now I'm shooting suboxone every morning to stay stable. I hate it.

Man...you got to get off the suboxone.
Its worse than the boy. That shit will flat fuck u bigtime.
Its gonna be tough cuz you been banging it... but if you have the subs and you will only need 6 or 7 of them.
I can help u walk off all of it if your strong enough or have a friend u trust that can hold em for u.
Its a lil uncomfortable the first day or two.....but you will be done at the end of #7.

 

[Throwback]

I work in the chemical dependency field and have a license to practice in my state. Obviously a thorough accessment would be needed but it sounds like you need to be professionally detoxed.
Stopping is a one day at a time thing, I'm just not gonna use today, even if I get sick due to withdrawal, and then day two, etc..



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I agree with your assessment for lack of a better word here.
If that small amount is what is being used its gonna be tough to clean up solo.
Most of this fight is gonna be the mental side.
We used to joke around all the time when we were trying to stay off opiates that the mindfuck was the biggest obstacle....
For years u chased the pills or the money to get the pills. Then when you stop doing pills you have all this free time to fill.
That free time would get you thinking...then thinking would get u craving...then....well u know the rest.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

I thought Suboxone was pretty easy to kick compared to Methadone, heroin or Oxycontin. I've kicked them all cold turkey at some point in my life. Methadone was the worst without question.

 

[Throwback]

I thought Suboxone was pretty easy to kick compared to Methadone, heroin or Oxycontin. I've kicked them all cold turkey at some point in my life. Methadone was the worst without question.

Depends on how much suboxone you used and also how u took it and for how long.
For me subs were a way to stop the bad opiates w/o the worst of withdrawl.
It took less than a month to be off the subs after i started them...and i daily decreased dosage so the last strip actually lasted a week.....still felt lethargic and tired for a couple weeks but that is also to be expected cuz of the physiological adjustment.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

Depends on how much suboxone you used and also how u took it and for how long.
For me subs were a way to stop the bad opiates w/o the worst of withdrawl.
It took less than a month to be off the subs after i started them...and i daily decreased dosage so the last strip actually lasted a week.....still felt lethargic and tired for a couple weeks but that is also to be expected cuz of the physiological adjustment.

I was on two 8mg Suboxone a day for around six months. I was on 110mg of methadone a day for around eighteen months before I switched to the subs. I was back to getting high a few months after that though, I didn't actually get clean until a few years later. The psychological adjustment probably took like a year or more honestly. I was on pain pills for around a decade straight with a few months off here and there. I'll have five years sobriety in the spring.

 

[Whoremoans]

Man...you got to get off the suboxone.
Its worse than the boy. That shit will flat fuck u bigtime.
Its gonna be tough cuz you been banging it... but if you have the subs and you will only need 6 or 7 of them.
I can help u walk off all of it if your strong enough or have a friend u trust that can hold em for u.
Its a lil uncomfortable the first day or two.....but you will be done at the end of #7.

Man I already take such a small dosage every day it'll be hard to ween from where I'm currently at. I shoot about 1mg worth of a strip every day. Sometimes a little more, sometimes as low as half a mg. Shooting it you get 100% of the bioavailability, compared to using them sublingual you only get 30%, and bupenorphine is a very powerful drug.

 

[Throwback]

Man I already take such a small dosage every day it'll be hard to ween from where I'm currently at. I shoot about 1mg worth of a strip every day. Sometimes a little more, sometimes as low as half a mg. Shooting it you get 100% of the bioavailability, compared to using them sublingual you only get 30%, and bupenorphine is a very powerful drug.

Yeah thats why i agreed with tha comment that you may need to go in to get clean.
1mg is virtually nothing but banging it is like u say 100% wow.
Its a mother fucker but hang in there...like the cliche. One day your gonna be sick and tired of being sick and tired....
On a side note...i used to snort a couple subutexts at a time if i couldnt find a roxy etc..
About 7 months of being totally clean and in the gym a friend of mine had a half a sub and needed some $ so i bought 1/2 of the half....i did half of that just to see how it would affect me.
It was like the worst drunk you have ever been on or swallowing a shitload of chewing tobacco if you dont chew.
Spinning puking totally fucked up...i was sick for 2 days. I couldnt believe it.