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big boi
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Hey big Boi you can go on my shit list too and fuck off with your arrogant attitude.Acting like im trying to go back and forth with you. What the fuck is wrong with grown men and there perceptions of respect these days? Dudes are legitimately getting fucked around here, and you come on here to tell us to stop repeating ourselves, that you havent repeated yourself, that you watched your parents do it as a child. (as we give two fucks about your parents and there fights, as it applies to a source thread wtf? ). That you wish you had more time to contribute and lah lah lah. Ok how bout you go back to work and shut the fuck up.. until you willing to contribute some time on actual 'contributions' . No reply needed Boi[/QUOTE]
Ur shit list oh no what evet will I do. U make me laugh with ur punk threats n orders like u have some kind control, shut up. Tile u think that new WKM.status is going ti make me respect u. I respect dudes who r real,.u know not trying to b something they're not. and I always respect the working man, out there doing whatever it takes to feed his family. With hands like urs I wouldn't expect u to understand that concept. Tile im not going anywhere try ur tactics on one of the ass kissers lookin for someone or anyone to like their posts so they can get a status bump. The r true vets here that I respect n if I offended u n any way I apologize.
big boi
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Im sure some will post hate mail,that's fine its ur opinion n I respect that. Look whats going on isfucked up I ewould never downplay that but eithet give the man time to fix it or cut ur loses. Arguing n going back n forth dosent solve shit especially when most of us r stubborn as mules. Tile took what I said personally,whatever.LUCA is ur leg any better, I damn sure hope this heals up soon. Ill keep u in my prayers.
tileguy123
New Member
Need the last word much?? fucking ass clown talking about my hands. please
tileguy123
New Member
its all good. . i think the caps were just me having enough... im done with MS and this thread. not tripping on re reimbursement from some uncontrolled re seller. Have a good day folks !!
Thanks Brutha. It's gettin there. normal day activities are good. But I know it's not ready for training just yet cause when I stretch it I can feel it's not 100%.
BigDave
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WOW... Just read the last 30 pages (was a few days behind). As an outside perspective that hasn't received any floaters (yet), just read through all of the posts on last 30 pages at once, & worked for many years in online marketing, this situation is pretty classic.
When there is no face to face interaction and people are angry (rightly so), they target their anger at whoever they can (which is Mike in this case). This becomes more and more amplified if the interaction is via web because there is no tone, no comprehension of sincerity, and the intent of the response can be analyzed over and over by the reader. When someone is angry they usually read into the response to mean what they want, & get more angry. I have no idea if Mike is sincere in his statements or not, but simply reiterating what has already been said in email was not a good idea & just makes people more angry... Not less. IMHO this was not well handled on his part. In a corporation when they have a scandal or large product issue, this is the very reason the CEO does a live press conference and makes statements and answers questions in person. Huge difference from a press release. If MS was a client Insould have advised him to craft one statement with action items for himself, give a timeframe for resolution, & not reply once after that until said time. People would still have been angry (rightly so), but not like this. There is one other possible reason for his very quick change in demeanor that I can think of. If you think about it, provoking attacks from members makes his departure seem more "justified" and does take attention away from the root cause of the issue (floaters). Why did you leave Meso? "I was viciously attacked by the members!" That sounds a lot better than "I had a huge product issue!". Not saying this is the case, but certainly possible if one was looking for an "out" after the issue became unmanigible. I think this is unlikely, as his responses could also be explained by not having slept in 4 days Because he is trying to save his business and right a situation. I think everyone's reactions were 100% legit and everyone (including me) should be angry, but a few things to think about. It does bother me that people are attacking each other now. Mike is gone, people are still angry, so where do we direct it? At each other. Sorry, It's what is happening. Everyone take care.
When there is no face to face interaction and people are angry (rightly so), they target their anger at whoever they can (which is Mike in this case). This becomes more and more amplified if the interaction is via web because there is no tone, no comprehension of sincerity, and the intent of the response can be analyzed over and over by the reader. When someone is angry they usually read into the response to mean what they want, & get more angry. I have no idea if Mike is sincere in his statements or not, but simply reiterating what has already been said in email was not a good idea & just makes people more angry... Not less. IMHO this was not well handled on his part. In a corporation when they have a scandal or large product issue, this is the very reason the CEO does a live press conference and makes statements and answers questions in person. Huge difference from a press release. If MS was a client Insould have advised him to craft one statement with action items for himself, give a timeframe for resolution, & not reply once after that until said time. People would still have been angry (rightly so), but not like this. There is one other possible reason for his very quick change in demeanor that I can think of. If you think about it, provoking attacks from members makes his departure seem more "justified" and does take attention away from the root cause of the issue (floaters). Why did you leave Meso? "I was viciously attacked by the members!" That sounds a lot better than "I had a huge product issue!". Not saying this is the case, but certainly possible if one was looking for an "out" after the issue became unmanigible. I think this is unlikely, as his responses could also be explained by not having slept in 4 days Because he is trying to save his business and right a situation. I think everyone's reactions were 100% legit and everyone (including me) should be angry, but a few things to think about. It does bother me that people are attacking each other now. Mike is gone, people are still angry, so where do we direct it? At each other. Sorry, It's what is happening. Everyone take care.
BigDave
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Also, feel better Luca. Glad to hear you are doing better
Voltrader
New Member
Damn nothing like navigating your way through a four a lane pile up there. Curious how many floaters out there. The floaters are a very concerning issue here and I have seen more then a couple of sources go down because of this issue. BTW big difference between floaters and that silky thread looking stuff in crashed gear. Floaters are not good that is a foreign substance int the gear. This causes major need for alarm pretty self explanatory why. MS all floaters are being replaced but we do need an explanation on them. What is the time frame on this explanation? It hurt your PR MS when you denied the floaters or try to explain them away. Let's just be honest and get to the bottom of this. MS as a community we have to stand behind guys like Tile and the posse it is our community and like it or not Johnny and Colt are productive members here. This is a true member driven board and we go with consensus here. So what I see what the board wants here is you need to make this right and provide a satisfactory answer on what is with the floaters. Consensus seems to want to give you a chance to right your ship. So MS outline for us what this looks like time frames on what happened with the floaters explanation. What kind of assurances does the community have that you are going to stay on top of this? I know you have products out for testing what is the expected time frame there? At this point it is about damage control and how you as the spokeperson/owner of MIKESTRONG GEAR handles this and unfortunately you took things personal. Keep it business MIke never personal especially on your end.
Mike if LUCA would of had a serious infection How would you feel. You need to get on this US REM lab.
For the forum.....
I would say it is personal for the guys who received floaters in their gear. I would probably be right there with TILE and his reaction maybe even more fired up. This is the point if you didn't receive gear with floaters then don't talk to Tile or Luca you don't really understand how they feel. They injected themselves with this gear and now you find foreign substance in there and people want to call people out for overreacting nah no over reaction there guys.
Mike if LUCA would of had a serious infection How would you feel. You need to get on this US REM lab.
For the forum.....
I would say it is personal for the guys who received floaters in their gear. I would probably be right there with TILE and his reaction maybe even more fired up. This is the point if you didn't receive gear with floaters then don't talk to Tile or Luca you don't really understand how they feel. They injected themselves with this gear and now you find foreign substance in there and people want to call people out for overreacting nah no over reaction there guys.
BigDave
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Just want to clarify... I just wanted to give an unbiased "why this went to shit so quick". I am fucking livid as well, & would be more so if I had used it. My main point was I hate to see people turning on each other over it. New hear, but you guys have a great community as you stated @Voltrader.
How many guys are surprised this happened?
I'd be pissed too, if I had received gear with floaters or was injured by gear.
Give Mike a chance to do right by our members and correct the problem. If he doesn't, we all know what happens.
I am most concerned with the new solvent. I wouldn't use any gear that contains it unless, I know what it is and know it is safe.
I'd be pissed too, if I had received gear with floaters or was injured by gear.
Give Mike a chance to do right by our members and correct the problem. If he doesn't, we all know what happens.
I am most concerned with the new solvent. I wouldn't use any gear that contains it unless, I know what it is and know it is safe.
boston597
Banned
I will say this about voltraders post it's all good BUT the part about taking it personal is the most on POINT thing I've read in this sloppy mess of an issue,let's say when I perchase some medication b4 I go out to the platform for 4 days to work and can't leave and it's the wrong meds I'm gona be pissed because # 1 I'll be sick #2 it's unprofessional on their part.so when I get back and visit the man/woman who filled my order and I get nasty because of the SHIT I went threw, they listen and apologize and fix.it's a mistake, also it's a business,were not friends.NOW I'm not saying don't be pissed about comments being made,let that roll off and get to business.I certainly don't want M.S to bail I've got a bunch invested and was about to start a serious cycle I'm not now so I'm also a lil pissed. but if we continue to beat his brains in he will do what they all do pack his bags i'm not being selfish I hope.
boston597
Banned
Yes big Dave this is a great community.great club , brotherhood, looking out for each other..i wish we could all get together for a weekend and meet some of the cool ppl we talked with on here .also probably could apologize to a few ppl I've been a Dick to lmao like when I first joined I got into it with hot dog & jballz ironically enough 2 ppl I have a SHIT load of respect on here for.and I'm sure seeing guys that we think are 230 and jacked up but look like crack heads would be something to see but they woulden come.trying to lighten the mood my bad
Okay brother, you feeling well? Were is the ferocity that I have seen in the past with other sources who have fucked up. Your getting soft .
Ditto!
BigDave
New Member
Jerk. LOL
Did you ever find out what the floater was? I have some prop that looks good but my tren has a cloudy streak running through it (same as another member posted in this forum). I'll try to heat it and see if that helps but worried given your situation for sure!
Awesome, thanks for posting! I have his tren a and looks the same as yours did... I'll reheat mine soon and post as well.
Voltrader
New Member
IDK if I am getting soft. I think we can look back at who was firing shots when the the underdosed blood work came in. I am just reading comments from members and going off the consensus. We need to think what is best for the community here. The best thing so far is as a community we are and continue to lead the way in testing and hold sources accountable. So now the next best thing is not to run Mike off this stuff needs to be fixed and fixed rather swiftly I would say. The floater incidents that I have been involved in were by labs that did not address the issue better yet they turned a blind eye. So hence they were ran off rather quickly. This is a serious incident in most of our eyes and the community needs answers and assurances. They have also voiced they want MS to address and make things right and continue at Meso. So what do we do?
We run MIke off and have it blamed on certain members for running off yet another source? I am ok with this.
or....
We approach this as all other issues and put it in the sources hands to make things right? Not just make things right but I think the source should make things even better. No more floaters period. I am also ok with this more diplomatic route. Right now this seems to be the route the consensus wants to go.
As you know Paul I have nothing to gain or lose. Maybe I am just getting tired of it all. These incidents put me at a place just to eliminate ALL sources from Meso. My hope is I will be here when the consensus finally sways that way. Pipe dream.
Colt44
Well-known Member
Well put. I'll go sit in the corner and shut up.
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