MK-677

[Mayne]

I am really not on a proper diet at all, the lethargy is too bad at points I can't really prepare real meals, I stuff myself up 2-3 times a day and drink a protein shake that's all. Calories are far from what I would bulk on really I am on maintenance and keep on gaining now 9 week on MK, 3 on superdrol and trt dose of test only I came from a cut and put on water weight really fast in the beginning but it has been way too long now to attribute it all to glycogen storage that and I am told I look different nearly daily.

 

[fodsod]

IMO, the effects of the MK is going to be dose dependent. You won't notice the difference though. I'm not aware of anyone that can tell me what their IGF level is doing based on how they feel or look so even if your IGF drops from 450 to 300 when you lower your dose you'll never know it.

MK is a great bulking drug because of the water retention and fullness it promotes. Terrible for cutting unless you're trying to use it to stay full but there are better options for that.

I've never used MK and not had sock rings on my ankles from the water retention. That's even when I was on 150 grams of carbs a day.

Finally, with your diet being sort of thrown together the difference in your look/size is almost all water retention, glycogen and yes, body fat. I'm not saying you didn't get any muscle out of the cycle, just that a large percentage of what you see isn't muscle gains.

Ask any bodybuilder that competes. They'll all tell you the mind fuck that comes from a great off season bulk then going into a cut only to realize the actual legit muscle gains weren't as good as you thought.

If you cut the MK, SD and lowered your doses to a maintenance level then changed your diet to a clean eating set up with carbs at a 1.5/per LB. of body weight you'd drop weight so fast you're head would spin. Or just jump on some DNP and see what happens.

It sucks but it's a fact that fast weight gain is always water and/or fat. If your diet sucks and the shit you're using promotes that environment in your body it'll stay until you change the factors contributing to it.

The silver lining here is that now that you've pushed up to that weight your body will go back up there more quickly next time you bulk.

 

[Mayne]

Thank you for your input, but I didn't mean my diet is thrown randomly, my protein is high, more than 2g/kilo, the only thing is I am eating more fat, ideally I would aim for less than 1g/kilo fat, I am currently on probably 1.5 due to a bit of junk thrown in to compensate for my lack of will to cook or eat clean due to being tired most all day... Also mind you I said I am gaining steadily on maintenance, I still count my calories or at least estimate close enough to have the idea of how much I am at day to day just it is often a slice of bread with peanut butter and chocolate instead of hundred of grams of rice or potato... I had a rapid gain the 1st 2 weeks tho which I understand is mostly water retention, I said previously in here that my wrists and ankles had swollen from there on I have pretty much improved in appearance overall especially in terms of width and that is not my own observation but people telling me (most of which are competitors also). I am not of the delusional type who would believe they bulked up 12 kilo of muscle in that short of a time frame, not at all, I just wanted to know if my IGF-1 level can remain elevated/would it help cutting if I reduced my MK dose to half in order to feel a bit more normal

 

[fodsod]

First let me say I was in no way bashing you man. I hope my post didn't read that way.

As long as you're running MK (especially now that you've been on for a while) I'd say you're definitely going to keep elevated IGF (beyond your normal levels) even on a lower dose. How much more and the benefit of that increase is anyone's guess.

Granted, your level will fall off a bit over time but all you may notice is a reduction in sides. All the studies show levels are definitely effected by dosage and my personal experience with it has also shown the same thing. I've run it between 15-50mg ed and found that for me 50mg is the sweet spot. That where I feel it the most and can see it working.

I'm a big advocate of MK so I'd be interested to hear what your results are using it at a lower dosage during a cut. Having some blood work to see what your levels are now verses at a lower dose would be interesting also.

Good luck and keep us posted on it.

 

[Mayne]

I appreciate your input and I wouldn't mention you if I didn't value your insight on diet included, no worries about it. It is actually you I believe that said would run MK year round that had me wanna continue, I only ordered a 12 week supply to check quality and my IGF-1 lab came back to 609 from 210 baseline, I posted that in this one thread and in PPL. I consider another test on the 12 week mark, I actually overdosed for a few weeks and may end up only with a 10 week supply but I would like to order more to extend it at least up to 6 month long run... And of course check what change dosage has on the impact of IGF-1 after the initial 6 week period as I am currently up in weight even with reduced MK but with added superdrol, 10 days from now I am dropping the superdrol and will continue on MK only for as long as I can until my liver is back to normal and add anavar to cut down before finally blasting on higher dose of MK and other AAS in the winter

 

[mands]

I appreciate your input and I wouldn't mention you if I didn't value your insight on diet included, no worries about it. It is actually you I believe that said would run MK year round that had me wanna continue, I only ordered a 12 week supply to check quality and my IGF-1 lab came back to 609 from 210 baseline, I posted that in this one thread and in PPL. I consider another test on the 12 week mark, I actually overdosed for a few weeks and may end up only with a 10 week supply but I would like to order more to extend it at least up to 6 month long run... And of course check what change dosage has on the impact of IGF-1 after the initial 6 week period as I am currently up in weight even with reduced MK but with added superdrol, 10 days from now I am dropping the superdrol and will continue on MK only for as long as I can until my liver is back to normal and add anavar to cut down before finally blasting on higher dose of MK and other AAS in the winter

I think it would be a good idea to take a break from it in 6 months to get your IGF-1 levels back at baseline and a break for your body. Elevated IGF-1 levels for extended period of time can cause other issues like blood glucose and orthostatic hypotension.

mands

 

[FNP_Doc]

Dr. Crisler is now backing this compound. Empower pharmacy is now offering it with a script for about $4 a pill, still not cheap but cheaper than HGH. I am going to ask my TRT doc to write me a script for it during our next meeting. That study shows that it indeed works and had a good safety profile.

 

[Dw725]

Been on mk for 4 weeks now. I've gained weight, but can easily attribute that to other supps I'm currently using.

I did feel like I had a very small increase in appetite in the beginning, but I'd say it has completely subsided at this point.

I am getting the pins and needles feeling in my hands frequently.

Sleep seemed to be improved at the start. However I'm far enough into a tren run now that while sleep isn't uninterrupted through the entire night, I am for the most part feeling better rested day to day.

Would someone mind breaking down the preferred protocol for igf testing? I'll try to go within the next couple weeks.

 

[Mayne]

Been on mk for 4 weeks now. I've gained weight, but can easily attribute that to other supps I'm currently using.

I did feel like I had a very small increase in appetite in the beginning, but I'd say it has completely subsided at this point.

I am getting the pins and needles feeling in my hands frequently.

Sleep seemed to be improved at the start. However I'm far enough into a tren run now that while sleep isn't uninterrupted through the entire night, I am for the most part feeling better rested day to day.

Would someone mind breaking down the preferred protocol for igf testing? I'll try to go within the next couple weeks.

On MK I did as pointed out by others here, 6 weeks on

 

[_Prometheus]

Alright, so
I've been looking for genetix, GTX, and I can't find them anywhere

This brand, however, was recommended by someone who's currently not on AAS, has his nutrition and training on point, and is only taking SR alongside this

He gave good feedback
4 months on it as of today

 

[Munky]

3rd day in on mk-677 15mg, and cardarine 20mg long with test prop and tren ace 100mg 3times per week , all I can say is I'm a believer I look better have more endurance recover faster between sets and workout and just starting, I have a little cytomel left adding in here and there 50mcg , 2nd day I noticed I was in the gym 3 hrs and could have stayed longer , sleeping better as well think I will run mk-677 awhile I'm impressed

 

[gobigorgohome1218]

Some great information and discussions here.....pulled the trigger and waiting for shipments of GH and Mk677. Will be getting baseline IGF-1 and GH levels prior to starting. I will then check the quality of the GH by administering 10iu IM followed by an IGF-1 and Gh blood draw at approximately 3hr post injection. As I'm waiting for results I will continue 2iu GH subcutaneously every a.m. Assuming the Gh is legit, as evidenced by elevated Gh and/or IFG-1 levels, I will continue this for 15 days at which time I will again check Gh and IGF-1 levels. At this time I will begin Mk677 25mg oral every p.m. Now at day 15 of the combined Gh/Mk677 administration I will once again have Gh and IGF-1 levels checked. I will be checking fasting blood glucose levels with every draw. My goals are:

1: Determine the quality of both the Gh and Mk677 I received
2: Elucidate the quality and quantity of Mk677's contribution to my overall levels


I realize these doses are conservative but I'm interested in finding the lowest effective dose for my goals of body composition change and overall improved recovery. By the way I will be drawing all levels at approx the same time in the morning in a fasted state. Also, I'm only taking test, cyp. 100mg IM every seven days (TRT). All information will be revealed, including sources, lab values, etc. once the study has meaningful data. Here's hoping my products are the real deal! Of course any suggestions or questions are always welcome

 

[Munky]

I was doing research on tren ace that alone can boost igf-1 levels big time a nice add on if a guy is running low dose mk-677 , I am getting wild dreams and some nice deep sleeps from mk-677 as well

 

[Mayne]

Some great information and discussions here.....pulled the trigger and waiting for shipments of GH and Mk677. Will be getting baseline IGF-1 and GH levels prior to starting. I will then check the quality of the GH by administering 10iu IM followed by an IGF-1 and Gh blood draw at approximately 3hr post injection. As I'm waiting for results I will continue 2iu GH subcutaneously every a.m. Assuming the Gh is legit, as evidenced by elevated Gh and/or IFG-1 levels, I will continue this for 15 days at which time I will again check Gh and IGF-1 levels. At this time I will begin Mk677 25mg oral every p.m. Now at day 15 of the combined Gh/Mk677 administration I will once again have Gh and IGF-1 levels checked. I will be checking fasting blood glucose levels with every draw. My goals are:

1: Determine the quality of both the Gh and Mk677 I received
2: Elucidate the quality and quantity of Mk677's contribution to my overall levels


I realize these doses are conservative but I'm interested in finding the lowest effective dose for my goals of body composition change and overall improved recovery. By the way I will be drawing all levels at approx the same time in the morning in a fasted state. Also, I'm only taking test, cyp. 100mg IM every seven days (TRT). All information will be revealed, including sources, lab values, etc. once the study has meaningful data. Here's hoping my products are the real deal! Of course any suggestions or questions are always welcome

I think 15 days is too little, 6 weeks is the norm for IGF-1 bloods on MK, nice initiative

 

[gobigorgohome1218]

I think 15 days is too little, 6 weeks is the norm for IGF-1 bloods on MK, nice initiative

Yes I read your previous posts Mayne.....I appreciate your feedback. But I also see that several of you are noticing subject changes early and with your impressive response at 6 weeks there must have demonstrable changes relatively quickly. My plan is to continue testing at 15, 30, 45, and 60 days out from the beginning of the combination of Gh and Mk677. My target for IGF-1 is 1.5-2.5 x my labs upper normal limit. If the product I recieve is legit I'll back off the Gh first if levels dictate. I'm hoping to correlate both physical and laboratory changes. Thanks for time

 

[SmallWoody]

Would any of you recommend mk-677 from RUI? it's liquid and i would rather try the caps.. What source have you had luck with

 

[movingiron88]

Has anyone else had elevated liver enzymes running mk-677? Or have seen any solid research indicating such? Thank you

 

[ThE SiCkNeSs]

It is a methylated compound, but not too harsh. I have read many bloods showing it did, than some showing it didn’t. Nothing was ever anything alarming though.

 

[Deep Diver]

Sounds like the side effects for MK are inconsistent.....different ones based on the individual
Looking for an alternate to GH. Any recommendations on a source for MK? PM please.

 

[Xlgx]

Sounds like the side effects for MK are inconsistent.....different ones based on the individual
Looking for an alternate to GH. Any recommendations on a source for MK? PM please.

Mike Arnold’s product.