MK-677

Here is a few studies on MK-677. It's been a topic of conversation as of late.

Two-month treatment of obese subjects with the oral growth hormone (GH) secretagogue MK-677 increases GH secretion, fat-free mass, and energy expenditure.
Svensson J1, Lönn L, Jansson JO, Murphy G, Wyss D, Krupa D, Cerchio K, Polvino W, Gertz B, Boseaus I, Sjöström L, Bengtsson BA.
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Abstract
Obesity is associated with blunted GH secretion, unfavorable body composition, and increased cardiovascular mortality. The objective of this study was to investigate the effects of oral treatment with the GH secretagogue MK-677 on GH secretion and body composition in otherwise healthy obese males. The study was randomized, double blind, parallel, and placebo controlled. Twenty-four obese males, aged 18-50 yr, with body mass indexes greater than 30 kg/m2 and waist/hip ratios greater than 0.95, were treated with MK-677 25 mg (n = 12) or placebo (n = 12) daily for 8 weeks. Serum insulin-like growth factor I (IGF-I) increased approximately 40% with MK-677 treatment (P < 0.001 vs. placebo). Serum IGF-binding protein-3 was also significantly increased (P < or = 0.001 vs. placebo). GH and PRL (peak and area under the curve values) were significantly increased after the initial dose of MK-677. Significant increases, with the exception of peak PRL, persisted at 2 and 8 weeks of treatment. The increases in GH and PRL after the initial dose were significantly greater than the increase seen after multiple doses. Serum and urinary concentrations of cortisol were not increased at 2 and 8 weeks (P = NS, vs. placebo). Fat-free mass increased significantly in the MK-677 treatment group when determined with dual energy x-ray absorptiometry (P < 0.01) or using a four-compartment model (P < 0.05). Total and visceral fat were not significantly changed with active therapy. The basal metabolic rate was significantly increased at 2 weeks of MK-677 treatment (P = 0.01) but not at 8 weeks (P = 0.1). Fasting concentrations of glucose and insulin were unchanged, whereas an oral glucose tolerance test showed impairment of glucose homeostasis at 2 and 8 weeks. We conclude that 2-month treatment with MK-677 in healthy obese males caused a sustained increase in serum levels of GH, IGF-I, and IGF-binding protein-3. The effects on cortisol secretion were transient. Changes in body composition and energy expenditure were of an anabolic nature, with a sustained increase in fat-free mass and a transient increase in basal metabolic rate. Further studies are needed to evaluate whether a higher dose of MK-677 or a more prolonged treatment period can promote a reduction in body fat.

PMID:

9467542

DOI:

10.1210/jcem.83.2.4539
Treatment with the oral growth hormone secretagogue MK-677 increases markers of bone formation and bone resorption in obese young males.
Svensson J1, Ohlsson C, Jansson JO, Murphy G, Wyss D, Krupa D, Cerchio K, Polvino W, Gertz B, Baylink D, Mohan S, Bengtsson BA.
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Abstract
The effect of 2 months of treatment with the oral growth hormone (GH) secretagogue MK-677 on markers of bone metabolism was determined in healthy obese male subjects. This was a randomized, double-blind, parallel, placebo-controlled study. Twenty-four healthy obese males, 19-49 years of age, with body mass index > 30 kg/m2 were treated with MK-677 (25 mg/day; n = 12) or placebo (n = 12) for 8 weeks. MK-677 increased markers of bone formation; a 23% increase in the carboxy-terminal propeptide of type I procollagen levels and a 28% increase in procollagen III peptide levels were seen with as little as 2 weeks of MK-677 treatment (p < 0.01 and p = 0.001 vs. placebo, respectively) while a 15% increase in serum levels of osteocalcin was not detected until 8 weeks of treatment (p < 0.01 vs. placebo). Markers of bone resorption were induced within 2 weeks of treatment with MK-677; serum levels of the carboxy-terminal cross-linked telopeptide of type I collagen were increased 26% at 8 weeks (p = 0.001 vs. placebo), and urine hydroxyproline/creatinine and calcium/creatinine ratios at 8 weeks were increased by 23% (p < 0.05 vs. placebo) and 46% (p < 0.05 vs placebo), respectively, MK-677 increased serum insulin-like growth factor binding protein-5 (IGFBP-5) by 43-44% after 2-8 weeks of treatment (p < 0.01 vs. placebo). Serum IGFBP-4 was increased by 25% after 2 weeks of treatment (p < 0.001 vs. placebo) but no significant change from baseline was observed after 8 weeks of treatment. Plasma interleukin-6 was not significantly changed by active treatment. In conclusion, short-term treatment of healthy obese male volunteers with the GH secretagogue MK-677 increases markers of both bone resorption and formation. Large increases in serum levels of igf-1 and IGFBP-5 and a transient increase in serum IGFBP-4 were found. Future long-term studies are needed to investigate if prolonged treatment with MK-677 increases bone mass.

PMID:

9661080

DOI:

10.1359/jbmr.1998.13.7.1158
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J Bone Miner Res. 1999 Jul;14(7):1182-8.
Oral administration of the growth hormone secretagogue MK-677 increases markers of bone turnover in healthy and functionally impaired elderly adults. The MK-677 Study Group.
Murphy MG1, Bach MA, Plotkin D, Bolognese J, Ng J, Krupa D, Cerchio K, Gertz BJ.
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Abstract
Growth hormone (GH) stimulates osteoblasts in vitro and increases bone turnover and stimulates osteoblast activity when given to elderly subjects. Probably a major effect of GH on bone is mediated through stimulation of either circulating or locally produced insulin-like growth factor I (IGF-I). We determined the effect of chronic administration of the GH secretagogue, MK-677, on serum IGF-I and markers of bone turnover in 187 elderly adults (65 years or older) enrolled in three randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled clinical studies lasting 2-9 weeks. Urine was collected for determination of N-telopeptide cross-links (NTXs), a marker of bone resorption, and blood was collected for determination of serum osteocalcin and bone-specific alkaline phosphatase (BSAP), as bone formation markers, and serum IGF-I levels pre- and post-treatment. Dose response data were initially obtained in healthy elderly subjects who received oral doses of 10 mg or 25 mg of MK-677 or placebo for 2 weeks (n = 10-12/group). Treatment with 10 mg and 25 mg of MK-677 for 2 weeks increased mean urine NTXs 10% and 17%, respectively (p < 0.05 vs. placebo). Additionally, 50 healthy elderly subjects received either placebo (n = 20) for 4 weeks or 25 mg of MK-677 (n = 30) daily for 2 weeks followed by 50 mg daily for 2 weeks. MK-677 increased mean serum osteocalcin by 8% (p < 0.05 vs. placebo). In both studies, MK-677 increased serum IGF-I levels significantly (55-94%). Subsequently, the biological effects of MK-677 were studied in 105 elderly subjects who met objective criteria for functional impairment. Subjects were randomized to receive oral doses of placebo for 9 weeks or either 5, 10, or 25 mg of MK-677 daily for an initial 2 weeks followed by 25 mg of MK-677 daily for the next 7 weeks(n = 63 on MK-677 and n = 28 on placebo completed 9 weeks of therapy). Treatment with MK-677 (all MK-677 groups combined) for 9 weeks increased mean serum osteocalcin by 29.4% and BSAP by 10.4% (p < 0.001 vs. placebo) and mean urinary NTX excretion by 22.6% (p < 0.05 vs. placebo). The change from baseline serum osteocalcin correlated with the change from baseline serum IGF-I in the MK-677 group (r = 0.37; p < 0.01). In conclusion, once daily dosing with MK-677, an orally active GH secretagogue, stimulates bone turnover in elderly subjects based on elevations in biochemical markers of bone resorption and formation.

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@mands i just wanted to thank you for taking the time, to research and share with the community, the knowledge and info you have gathered regarding this topic. This is my no means meant to seem like I am kissing your ass but I just wanted you to know that I personally appreciate all the time and effort that you spend providing the most up to date cutting-edge info on every topic you post on. It makes it nice to not have to bounce back and forth between other boards when you know that there are people like you that do the best to cover every angle when a topic is being discussed. So thank you
 
Good one lol Thanks for proving some of my points. And I haven't gotten to the shadow boxing in the mirror stage yet lol
I also find it funnny because there isn’t a supplement companies big enough that Cary mk677 at the moment so all this talk about wanting the who,what, where, the it’s funds are coming from is rediculous. It’s also shows that by continuing to mention it and know the response you have gotten that you are an extremely confrontational individual, who’s mind is purely looking for reasons to prove the product worthless or not worth your time and if that is the case why even co to use to engage. I can tell you because oI like negative attention.
 
@mands i just wanted to thank you for taking the time, to research and share with the community, the knowledge and info you have gathered regarding this topic. This is my no means meant to seem like I am kissing your ass but I just wanted you to know that I personally appreciate all the time and effort that you spend providing the most up to date cutting-edge info on every topic you post on. It makes it nice to not have to bounce back and forth between other boards when you know that there are people like you that do the best to cover every angle when a topic is being discussed. So thank you
Hey my man. I appreciate it and no worries about kissing ass. lol I've seen a lot of good info coming from your way. Glad you found us over here.

mands
 
@mands i had a quick question, I decided to throw down on some mk677 about a month ago, and finally decided to get my tip wet with it the other night. I woke up the next morning feeling fucking swole. My weight has been at 205-209 for the last month. Which I am more than fine with. My abs really started to shine through the last month too. I am currently using A blend of
Test e +TPP at 400mg/wk
Npp - 500mg/wk

My mk is in caps from a really reliable domestic that just started carryin then @ 25mg each.

Yesterday when I weighed in I was up 7lbs. Which was beyond abnormal for me. Lol, I know it’s not muscle, but have you heard of anyone gaining that amount of water in that short of time. It’s sort of scares me. The pumps in the gym yesterday were consistent with anadrol, but my I needed up having to clip my workout early which was actually at the 2hr mark because of pumps in my arms and back. Anadrol gave lower back pumps but nothing close to this. Anyhow. I drink tons of water Ed. Probably upwards of 2 gallions. My board shorts I workout in are feeling tight my diet consists of probably no more that 200grans of carbs Ed.fat no more that 60grns EVER. Protein around 2-250grans. I wasn’t looking on gaining a shit ton of weight. So I take my 25mg at night before bed like a good little boy, so in order to fight off the hunger best as possible. Still find myself waking up 1-2 times past couple nights and eating a peanut butter jelly sandwich. Fine no biggie I do 40mins cardio 5days/wk to account for snacking at night. Questions

Will I continue to put on tons of waterweight?? Is there anyway to combat this ?

Does mk need to be taken religiously every night, or could someone take it EOD or A coupe times a wk?? Thanks
 
@mands i had a quick question, I decided to throw down on some mk677 about a month ago, and finally decided to get my tip wet with it the other night. I woke up the next morning feeling fucking swole. My weight has been at 205-209 for the last month. Which I am more than fine with. My abs really started to shine through the last month too. I am currently using A blend of
Test e +TPP at 400mg/wk
Npp - 500mg/wk

My mk is in caps from a really reliable domestic that just started carryin then @ 25mg each.

Yesterday when I weighed in I was up 7lbs. Which was beyond abnormal for me. Lol, I know it’s not muscle, but have you heard of anyone gaining that amount of water in that short of time. It’s sort of scares me. The pumps in the gym yesterday were consistent with anadrol, but my I needed up having to clip my workout early which was actually at the 2hr mark because of pumps in my arms and back. Anadrol gave lower back pumps but nothing close to this. Anyhow. I drink tons of water Ed. Probably upwards of 2 gallions. My board shorts I workout in are feeling tight my diet consists of probably no more that 200grans of carbs Ed.fat no more that 60grns EVER. Protein around 2-250grans. I wasn’t looking on gaining a shit ton of weight. So I take my 25mg at night before bed like a good little boy, so in order to fight off the hunger best as possible. Still find myself waking up 1-2 times past couple nights and eating a peanut butter jelly sandwich. Fine no biggie I do 40mins cardio 5days/wk to account for snacking at night. Questions

Will I continue to put on tons of waterweight?? Is there anyway to combat this ?

Does mk need to be taken religiously every night, or could someone take it EOD or A coupe times a wk?? Thanks
Are you concerned that the MK might be anadrol? The easiest and fastest way to see if the MK is legit would pull some bloods to see if IGF-1 has risen. Do you have pre-bloods before you started?

MK will definitely give you good intracellular water weight you get from GH in my experience. It will subside though. I was taking mine night and morning at 10mg and saw a few pounds added immediately.

I would embrace the weight gain if it's indeed from the MK.

mands
mands
 
Are you concerned that the MK might be anadrol? The easiest and fastest way to see if the MK is legit would pull some bloods to see if IGF-1 has risen. Do you have pre-bloods before you started?

MK will definitely give you good intracellular water weight you get from GH in my experience. It will subside though. I was taking mine night and morning at 10mg and saw a few pounds added immediately.

I would embrace the weight gain if it's indeed from the MK.

mands
mands
Agree with this 100%. MK is well known for killer pumps and immediate weight gain with a large portion of it inter-cellular. You'll stay full and stronger for the time you're on it. You should see a notable increase in IGF also. If you see ankle swelling (sock rings) then that's normal and a good indicator that the MK is doing it's thing.

I typically recommend MK for off season bulking in place of GH if someone is looking to save money and doesn't want to use insulin with the GH.
 
Hey my man. I appreciate it and no worries about kissing ass. lol I've seen a lot of good info coming from your way. Glad you found us over here.

mands
Thanks buddy, over the years people have been good to me, and the knowledge I have acquired, I believe is something that is meant to be passed on. I enjoy meso, I dont have another avenue where I can talk with like minded people on the level I can here, most people in my personal life can’t Handle an in depth conversation with me.Even the guys I train with in the gym.
 
Agree with this 100%. MK is well known for killer pumps and immediate weight gain with a large portion of it inter-cellular. You'll stay full and stronger for the time you're on it. You should see a notable increase in IGF also. If you see ankle swelling (sock rings) then that's normal and a good indicator that the MK is doing it's thing.

I typically recommend MK for off season bulking in place of GH if someone is looking to save money and doesn't want to use insulin with the GH.
Did I say has risen lol :). Hope all is well big guy.

mands
 
Are you concerned that the MK might be anadrol? The easiest and fastest way to see if the MK is legit would pull some bloods to see if IGF-1 has risen. Do you have pre-bloods before you started?

MK will definitely give you good intracellular water weight you get from GH in my experience. It will subside though. I was taking mine night and morning at 10mg and saw a few pounds added immediately.

I would embrace the weight gain if it's indeed from the MK.

mands
mands
No not at all. I know it’s mk just because like everyone has mentioned it has a very potent smell. Sort of like gauc, you can’t ever forget it very pungent. My friend has some powder and the my caps smell just like his powder. I like anadrol, but more importantly I am at the point in my game where, even though I have only been back in society for around 7 months, I have managed to put together what I feel is a very concrete network of Individuals that I would have to steer very far off the reservation to get scammed. Sure you know what I mean. Lol, I feel that if I have to be concerned about whether the gear I am purchasing is legit or not, then I should not be using gear.

My concerns are: I have had some really bad experiences when it comes to health complications in the past when I start holding massive amounts of water. Not only do health start to flail, but I begin to look like shit too. I find mentally when I look in the mirror, and dont like how I look, the mind body connection fucks with my physical health. Things start to get bad, with a quickness. So if I manage to keep my myself looking good in the mirror, when my mind says you look good, then my body follows suit. Hope this makes sense. When I was young my dad used to always tell me,
“It’s not how you feel, it’s how you look.” Sooo fucking true. It wasn’t him making a shallow statement it was his way off explain the psychology of things.

So water weight is a huge issue for me, so I will probably run with it this month, just to to get an idea of what the sides are like. Lol i dropped my Cals for the last month, and BF had been going down, when I got out of the pen 7mos. Ago I was around 25% now around 12-14%. So far the hunger has not been to bad, like I said I take 25mg before bed. I recently increased my NPP dose a week ago so the weight could be going up in response to that increase to.

Two more questions, so anyone please chime in:

Do you think metformin would be something that would benefit someone on mk677? Or would berberine be better? (Currently take 500mg am b4 breakfast, and 500mg pm, b4 dinner)

Is there any evidence of mk677 effecting thyroid similar to Gh. Reason I ask is that I know that the endgame is similar however the essentially work via different mechanisms. I take 50mcg Ed do to being slight hypo. So if there is effect to thyroid I would like to know when bloods get done, if it is something I should on the lookout for??

Do you think taurine would help combat the painful pumps I was getting in the gym??

Speaking of anadrol, since I am planning on sticking this out for the next month, I want to get a good feel/ get familiar with the mk677 before I go doing anything funky with my gear protocol. In reality I am considering just dropping the npp completely so I get the feel of mk677 and my base of all - Test.
 
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I like berberine. I know that some that run them together and just lower the dose of each. Seems like some synergy between the two.

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Clin Endocrinol (Oxf). 1999 Apr;50(4):451-6.
Discrepancy between serum leptin values and total body fat in response to the oral growth hormone secretagogue MK-677.
Svensson J1, Carlsson B, Carlsson LM, Jansson JO, Bengtsson BA.
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Abstract
OBJECTIVE:
Growth hormone (GH) treatment decreases total body fat while this effect has not yet been documented for the oral GH secretagogue MK-677. In the present study, the effects of MK-677 treatment on serum levels of leptin, thyroid hormones and testosterone were determined.

DESIGN:
This was a randomized, double-blind, and parallel study. Twenty-four healthy obese males, 19-49 years of age, with body mass index (BMI) > 30 kg/m2 and a waist:hip ratio > 0.95, were treated with MK-677 (25 mg/day; n = 12) or placebo (n = 12) for 8 weeks.

RESULTS:
MK-677 treatment increased serum leptin levels and leptin/body fat ratio at 2 weeks of treatment (P < 0.05 vs. placebo) but no significant change was observed at 8 weeks. An increase in serum free 3, 5, 3'-triiodothyronine (free T3) was not detected until 8 weeks of MK-677 treatment (P < 0.05 vs. placebo). Peak serum thyroid stimulating hormone (TSH) concentration after MK-677 administration was similar to that after placebo administration at initiation of treatment and at 2 weeks. At 8 weeks of MK-677 treatment, mean peak serum TSH concentration was increased (P < 0.05 vs. placebo) although it remained within the normal range. Serum peak values of luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) were similar after MK-677 and placebo administration. MK-677 treatment reduced serum total testosterone (P < 0.05 vs. placebo) although total testosterone/sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG) ratio (an index of free testosterone) was not changed.

CONCLUSION:
Treatment with the oral GH secretagogue MK-677 transiently increased serum leptin levels and leptin/body fat ratio at 2 weeks of treatment, and increased serum free T3 after 8 weeks. These results indicate that MK-677 treatment is able to affect circulating factors of importance for adipose tissue mass and fuel metabolism.

mands
 
@mands i had a quick question, I decided to throw down on some mk677 about a month ago, and finally decided to get my tip wet with it the other night. I woke up the next morning feeling fucking swole. My weight has been at 205-209 for the last month. Which I am more than fine with. My abs really started to shine through the last month too. I am currently using A blend of
Test e +TPP at 400mg/wk
Npp - 500mg/wk

My mk is in caps from a really reliable domestic that just started carryin then @ 25mg each.

Yesterday when I weighed in I was up 7lbs. Which was beyond abnormal for me. Lol, I know it’s not muscle, but have you heard of anyone gaining that amount of water in that short of time. It’s sort of scares me. The pumps in the gym yesterday were consistent with anadrol, but my I needed up having to clip my workout early which was actually at the 2hr mark because of pumps in my arms and back. Anadrol gave lower back pumps but nothing close to this. Anyhow. I drink tons of water Ed. Probably upwards of 2 gallions. My board shorts I workout in are feeling tight my diet consists of probably no more that 200grans of carbs Ed.fat no more that 60grns EVER. Protein around 2-250grans. I wasn’t looking on gaining a shit ton of weight. So I take my 25mg at night before bed like a good little boy, so in order to fight off the hunger best as possible. Still find myself waking up 1-2 times past couple nights and eating a peanut butter jelly sandwich. Fine no biggie I do 40mins cardio 5days/wk to account for snacking at night. Questions

Will I continue to put on tons of waterweight?? Is there anyway to combat this ?

Does mk need to be taken religiously every night, or could someone take it EOD or A coupe times a wk?? Thanks
It’s mk man my local supplement store sells it it happens every time to me. About 7lbs exactly. Full muscle look. I just ate 1500 calories in twenty minutes..... looking for more food currently. I just started it 2 hours ago
 
It’s mk man my local supplement store sells it it happens every time to me. About 7lbs exactly. Full muscle look. I just ate 1500 calories in twenty minutes..... looking for more food currently. I just started it 2 hours ago

MK is still for research purposes. How is your supplement store getting away with selling it? What brand(s)?
 
MK is still for research purposes. How is your supplement store getting away with selling it? What brand(s)?
The brands are fake labels tying back to no company

No idea how they do it I guess just no one knows or somethin. It’s not just one store I’m talking multiple unregulated stores
 
The brands are fake labels tying back to no company

No idea how they do it I guess just no one knows or somethin. It’s not just one store I’m talking multiple unregulated stores

Probably only a matter of time before some big mouth walks in there and word spreads to the wrong ears.

If the stuff is quality, i'd stock up before the FDA catches wind and pulls the plug on it.
 
I think I literally have a new found love. My quality of sleep is so damn incredible. I don’t think I am gonna have to resort to monthly ghb dosing anymore which tbh I am greatful for. Being a recovering addict and having had years of ghb use which i used ghb instead of alcohol for many of my partying years, and even though I wasn’t abusing the ghb this time around and only using it for sleep, i have had a guilty feeling every time I would dose before bed. This mk677 might literally be a miracle drug with all the benefits that it brings to the table. I guess we will see, hoping that I don’t find out down the road, that long term could cause my dick to fall off or something. Lol
 
I think I literally have a new found love. My quality of sleep is so damn incredible. I don’t think I am gonna have to resort to monthly ghb dosing anymore which tbh I am greatful for. Being a recovering addict and having had years of ghb use which i used ghb instead of alcohol for many of my partying years, and even though I wasn’t abusing the ghb this time around and only using it for sleep, i have had a guilty feeling every time I would dose before bed. This mk677 might literally be a miracle drug with all the benefits that it brings to the table. I guess we will see, hoping that I don’t find out down the road, that long term could cause my dick to fall off or something. Lol

How much and how often are you taking it?
 
Probably only a matter of time before some big mouth walks in there and word spreads to the wrong ears.

If the stuff is quality, i'd stock up before the FDA catches wind and pulls the plug on it.
It’s only $40 but I don’t plan on making a long term thing about it so whatever
 
25mg every night before bed. I didn’t want to take it in the day time. I don’t have a problem eating. A rule that I live by is that I don’t eat anything 2hours before bed. So I figure that I won’t be dosing it on a full stomach, which I have read can be counterproductive. And then remaining in a fasted state all night would cause a much higher spike in Gh and igf1. I have found that hitting the infrared sauna at my gym three times this week helped with some of the subcutaneous water I had put on, it wasn’t so much that I was really concerned, , but I was curious to know if it would help and it did. I usually limit the sauna to three times a wk for about 15mins anyhow try and sweat out any toxins that build up. I am really impressed. This is a perfect thread to I might continue to keep posting my weekly progress. Not daily because it’s a bit much.
 
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