dontletheoldmanin
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I just ordered moda/armo getting over 100 tabs of each and can assure you it was much under 249 per 100
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mikeh1998
Member
Can you point me to where the forum rules say selling Zopiclone or Eszopiclone is not allowed? (Assuming that is the product you are talking about)
Search benzos and at by you put boss username( Millard)
BamaCrazy
Member
“Zopiclone is a sleeping pill that belongs to a group of drugs called NON-benzodiazepine hypnotics. It has a different structure to benzodiazepine sedative hypnotics”
Post in thread 'Harm reduction in the Steroid Underground subforum - this is NOT a source forum'
You can commit suicide with Zopiclone. That's not what this forum is about.
From a forum when peds is the main drugs we talk and has interest in harm reduction to selling drugs to be able to take your life is a long road.
Cool it's not a true benzo but isn't a ped either and with the "help" of it you can kill yourself.
It's against the rules but to be honest I stop to give a shit. Go ahead and market marijuana as it's not benzo. Make this forum a small silk road if you want
Why I tried to be the policeman I don't know but I believe we follow the guidance and common sense for a bit but clearly isn't the case..
From a forum when peds is the main drugs we talk and has interest in harm reduction to selling drugs to be able to take your life is a long road.
Cool it's not a true benzo but isn't a ped either and with the "help" of it you can kill yourself.
It's against the rules but to be honest I stop to give a shit. Go ahead and market marijuana as it's not benzo. Make this forum a small silk road if you want
Why I tried to be the policeman I don't know but I believe we follow the guidance and common sense for a bit but clearly isn't the case..
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BamaCrazy
Member
Oh hell. Here are examples of medications that can cause depression and suicide or suicidal ideation. You might recognize them…
1. Birth control - ethinyl estradiol and levonorgestrel)
2. Beta blockers - metoprolol
3. Steroids - prednisone
4. Sedatives - alprazolam
5. Proton pump inhibitors- omeprazole
6. Anticonvulsants- gabapentin
7. Analgesics - Tramadol
8. Antidepressants- Trazodone
9. Hormone modifiers - Finasteride
10. Other - Armodafinil
11. Hormones - Progesterone
12. Other - Isotretinoin
13. Analgesics - Ibuprofen
14. Corticosteroids - Cortisone
15. Hormone Modifiers - Anastrozole
16. Hormone Modifiers - Cabergoline
17. Hormone Modifiers - Estradiol
18. Hormone Modifiers - Exemestane
19. Hormone Modifiers - Testosterone
Bottom line is those sleep meds are not benzodiazepines and there are hundreds of meds offered by every PCT and UGL that could cause suicide under the right conditions
Ghoul
Member
There's also the widespread selling of clenbuterol. albuterol, both potentially deadly, and the fact that AAS use is higher mortality of all types.
Death from Zopiclone monointoxication is very rare.
"Harm Reduction" means being aware of how to use a substance safely, and the substance being provided is not inherently unsafe.
It does not mean gate keeping.
Death from Zopiclone monointoxication is very rare.
"Harm Reduction" means being aware of how to use a substance safely, and the substance being provided is not inherently unsafe.
It does not mean gate keeping.
How common are those meds used by people who commit suicide?
How many people used ibuprofen to kill himself? Or Finasteride?
You can commit suicide if you drink enough water or eat enough bananas but how common is used by those people?
Zopiclone is used in 17% of cases of suicide..
But like I said make this forum a silk road. I don't give a shit.
mikeh1998
Member
@Millard can you clarify if a source having zopiclone or eszopiclone (Lunesta) on a public price list violates Meso's harm reduction principles?
I absolutely consider Lunesta a PED and it has benefitted my life by a lot. It is not addictive, you don't build a tolerance to it, I feel more alert and well rested the next day after using it.
It's a "narcotic" in the same sense that bupropion (Wellbutrin) is a narcotic. People used to inject it, but really who the fuck is doing that? Antidepressant Wellbutrin becomes ‘poor man’s cocaine’ on Toronto streets | Globalnews.ca
Honestly eszopiclone would have to be in my top 5 list of compounds I use along with Testosterone.
I absolutely consider Lunesta a PED and it has benefitted my life by a lot. It is not addictive, you don't build a tolerance to it, I feel more alert and well rested the next day after using it.
It's a "narcotic" in the same sense that bupropion (Wellbutrin) is a narcotic. People used to inject it, but really who the fuck is doing that? Antidepressant Wellbutrin becomes ‘poor man’s cocaine’ on Toronto streets | Globalnews.ca
Honestly eszopiclone would have to be in my top 5 list of compounds I use along with Testosterone.
Black90tsi
New Member
It has always blown my mind that something prescribed to fix depression can cause you to become so depressed to decide to voluntarily leave this world. That kind of defeats the purpose doesn't it?
BamaCrazy
Member
I agree. A lot of those antidepressants cause suicidal ideation. When you start messing around with the chemicals in the brain anything can happen. And stopping those meds can sometimes cause more issues than what you had before you began.
Black90tsi
New Member
I've seen what a long term anti depressant user going cold turkey looked like. One minute she was fine then she would just start uncontrollably bawling her eyes out. In another few minutes she'd snap right back out of it. That stuff can't be good for you. But it sure is good for the bank accounts of the pharma companies.
mikeh1998
Member
Person uses drug incorrectly and experiences documented well known side effect. Company sells product to earn profit.
More news at 11.
BamaCrazy
Member
You do not need to use it incorrectly to have a negative outcome. The Army prescribed me these drugs for PTSD. It honestly messed me up worse than where I was mentally before the meds. I’m not saying that’s the outcome for everyone. But it was for me and for several other Soldiers I know.
mikeh1998
Member
This can happen with literally any drug, I don't get the point of you guys bringing it up.
It's not insightful at all it's just hopping on the "dude SSRI's and big pharma are evil and shit" slop that everyone has heard 800 times.
There's no evidence that SSRI's are significantly more harmful than other types of medications used to treat PTSD.
BamaCrazy
Member
I didn’t say anything about SSRIs and big Pharma being evil, nor did I say SSRIs are significantly more harmful. But in my experience it was a setback and didn’t help.
But studies do indicate that negative outcomes are underreported.
The Hidden Harm of Antidepressants
An in-depth analysis of clinical trials reveals widespread underreporting of negative side effects, including suicide attempts and aggressive behavior
www.scientificamerican.com
Also they can do more harm than good.
Anti-depressants likely do more harm than good, study suggests
Commonly prescribed anti-depressants appear to be doing patients more harm than good, say researchers who have published a paper examining the impact of the medications on the entire body.
www.sciencedaily.com
CraneKraken
Member
In his defense it looks like he wasn't wrong about CBP and smaller parcels coming from China. Same with the scarcity of all the products we receive in those parcels. I mean all he did was read an article or two, link them and then explain what it was that he read. And again, it looks like the articles were fairly accurate and thus Ghoul wasn't wrong. He wasn't spreading malicious rumors to boost sources and panic the Meso community. He was basically giving everyone a heads up. I'd say that's a pretty solid move.
nightprowler7
Member
Oh I completely agree. Looking back I look like an ass for talking so much shit about him. He was right, I was wrong. Dude helped so many people!
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