More tren = more fat loss? Tren's fat loss mechanism.

[TTren]

This is a week old. At least you made the effort to write an into. But it doesn't change the fact that you are a retard.



For fat loss I would try DNP, it gives you the aforementioned mitochondrial uncoupling in spades. The great thing about DNP is:

more DNP = more fat lost



Literally every fucking day. EVERY. even MULTIPLE ones.

bro tryna kill him

 

[nightr]

5. Disrupts sleep and causes plaque in the brain

explain please.

 

[bananafeet]

explain please.

Amyloid plaques. Probably from a lack of sleep. Nandralone reduces dopamine transport in the brain, this causes anxiety/depression in rats models. Maybe that's related.

I'm not the person to ask.. Maybe Type2x has covered it?

 

[mikeh1998]

Hair seemed to miniturize in 2018, and for those concerned about hair miniturization running tren or any androgenic, monitor closely, while using derma rolling, oils in hair that block dht, esp pumpkin seed oil, emu oil too. Ru58841 is worth a shot. ketonconazole 2 %, minox

Wouldn’t this not work because tren binds extremely strongly to the androgen receptor causing heavy androgenic activity just like DHT does?

It doesn’t convert to DHT through 5 AR so drugs like finasteride or dutasteride would be irrelevant, it’s tren harming your hair directly.

 

[Jesintn]

Wouldn’t this not work because tren binds extremely strongly to the androgen receptor causing heavy androgenic activity just like DHT does?

It doesn’t convert to DHT through 5 AR so drugs like finasteride or dutasteride would be irrelevant, it’s tren harming your hair directly.

didnt microneedle in 2018, last prep I used tren on, and have competed every year since

since then ive used tren one day in 2020, 10 mgs and something very negative happened so I didnt use it untill last few weeks of prep on body parts I wanted to bring up, this year

. Then this prep, 2025, ive used maybe 200 total mgs at most, starting at 4 mgs a day, then a few days before competiton 15-20 mgs. From 2019 to 2025 ive used a total of 300 mgs tren or less bc ive been scared and I havent gotten pro card so maybe I could try tren more as in 5-20 mgs a day tops, here and there, but I also think test only for two months or so is best for any competitor , and nothing else, out of the year, season, esp if amature and not making money from this from competing, it costs a lot to compete, as for dudes that dont make much like yours truley but I want no pity, and I will take help, esp if I can help you with my knowledge, like me sharing on here in this post

I dont know if microneedling, ru58841 work work or not on any androgens not effected by 5 ar, but its worth a shot, as dht , even from other unnatural sources like tren or masteron cause miniturization of the hair follicles, making them thinner, and thinner, untill they fall out. im sure you have seen pictures or can find videos showing this

This last prep I microrolled and used ru58841, on tren days or masteron days , which wasnt much, and didnt seem to lose hair, but thats not enough time to see . Also used masteron the last week and a half at a total dosage of 300 mgs total

its definately worth a shot to use ru, and microneedling on days those androgenic compounds are used. Testosterone, I use finasteride

Eq, deca, and dbol dont seem to effect my hair much at all. For this reason these are my year round compounds, along with test. Deca and low dose dbol has been nice when test is not in there, despite some possible female like effects, I can handle them better than high dose eq. Tbol seems to be safe as well, esp if doses are kept lower to moderate

But I still microneedle year round. You could say most of the time most compounds were chosen by the decesion to keep my hair, and its worked well so far

@Type-IIx do you know any more compounds that dont really seem to effect hair minitiaturization ?

 

[ve79]

I'll speculate more. If you go from like 20% to like 8% your skin looks kinda shitty and weird.

I'm not saying stretch marks, just that the massively long process to get there makes you look watery and weird.

It takes months / years at low BF to stay dry and for your body to get used being single digits. Just my opinion tho.

Not necessarily your skin won't look back unless you are prone to acne but in most cases it's just harder to get there to single digets

 

[Mfras]

Not necessarily your skin won't look back unless you are prone to acne but in most cases it's just harder to get there to single digets

I went from 46% to a current 16-17% which is an extreme case- 355 total 190 FFM to 253 total 211 FFM over 2-3 years. Plus I’m old. I’m not done cutting but I’m realizing that 10% or lower will be a worse look for me than more like 12%. More like a melted candle and less like an anatomy chart.

Can confirm that stretched skin which was then emptied looks shitty and wierd. It doesn’t adhere as well to the structure underneath and the last fat blobs to go are not pulled in tight.

If you’re young and 20% with tight skin and even fat distribution you’ll be just fine, but if that 20% is mostly beer belly it could be a different story.

Tell ya what though leanish with shitty skin is still way better than fat!

 

[explodingHeart]

@Ghoul stupid question, has accutane ever been proven much to helped with stretched out skin?

I understand you think accutane is the best thing you can take for deep tissue remodeling, correct?

 

[Ghoul]

@Ghoul stupid question, has accutane ever been proven much to helped with stretched out skin?

I understand you think accutane is the best thing you can take for deep tissue remodeling, correct?

Yes but the improvement isn’t in reducing loose skin.

It improves collagen density (and reduces pore size) which makes skin look:

smoother
cleaner
finer-textured
healthier

It “refills” collagen depleted areas pushing out skin reducing fine lines (like around the eyes) and especially sun damaged areas.

Skin becomes more resilient, less easily damaged, and “feels” firmer,

But nothing for sagging skin.

5mg day / Isotretinoin is like having 20 year younger skin, including any skin that’s currently sagging lol.

 

[xrayphoton13]

Yes but the improvement isn’t in reducing loose skin.

It improves collagen density (and reduces pore size) which makes skin look:

smoother
cleaner
finer-textured
healthier

It “refills” collagen depleted areas pushing out skin reducing fine lines (like around the eyes) and especially sun damaged areas.

Skin becomes more resilient, less easily damaged, and “feels” firmer,

But nothing for sagging skin.

5mg day / Isotretinoin is like having 20 year younger skin, including any skin that’s currently sagging lol.

Do you take it every day for as long as you have access or just for a few months?

 

[Ghoul]

Do you take it every day for as long as you have access or just for a few months?

Every day for about a year now. Just another capsule in my pill organizer.

My skin quality is definately better than it was without. I think there’s some synergy with rHGH’s boost to collagen production. GH speeds cell division, while Isotretinoin “guides” development into a stronger crosslinked matrix than would otherwise be created. There’s a subtle visual improvement, that’s worth the minimal cost and effort ($30/year) but the tactile difference is pretty dramatic. I can feel the difference in smoothness and “springiness”.

I think daily 5mg (esp versus 10mg eod or e3d) is really preferable. Low peak, stable levels mean I don’t experience any troublesome sides like I did on the full Isotretinoin course. My lips occasionally feel a little “spicy” with slight peeling if I don’t moisturize, but I see that as a positive. The faster turnover erased years of wear and tear my lips accumulated from unprotected exposure to cold weather and sun.

There’d also some evidence it’s protective against skin cancer, so that’s a plus.

 

[Jaxino]

Does more trenbolone = more fat lost, in a strict caloric deficit?

Recently I posted another thread - Recomping effects of tren possible at 100-120mg/w?
We know that the recomping & anticatabolic effects (Decreased PPARγ mRNA expression & decreased GR expression) of trenbolone are present even in lower dosages (<100mg weekly).

Obviously we know that more tren = more side effects. But let's set them aside for this discussion and focus purely on the benefits of tren.


So would increasing the dosages of trenbolone (for example 100mg vs 200mg) increase the fat loss during a caloric deficit (let's say a deficit of 1000 calories)? And what is the main mechanism for it?


Here is what I thought: Increasing the dosages beyond 50-100mg would lead to low benefits in terms of fat lost, as the main reason / mechanism someone would use trenbolone - is to decrease the amount of muscle lost during a deficit due to decreased GR expression (which lower dosages are enough for).

However, it also makes sense that increasing trenbolone would lead to more muscle retained -> higher amount of calories burnt. But is it significant? Let's say 75mg of tren a week would prevent 80-90% of muscle loss (just speculation numbers out of my head). Increasing the dosage to 150mg a week would prevent just a little bit more (like additional 5-10% - again, just speculation numbers to get my point accross) of muscle loss, which would be insignificant for faster fat loss.

I hear a lot of people saying that tren "directly burns fat", but I am not sure what they mean by it - is there a "hidden" direct fat loss mechanism I'm missing?


What do you guys think? What are your experiences?

Tren is a steroid and steroids do what are made for, keep muscles on a deficit, build muscle on a slight caloric excess.

Drop all this scientific bullshit, won't lead you to anywhere. Focus on training and eating correctly.