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[Gettinbig]

Vascularity has stayed the same, I am seeing a noticeable strength increase. Having no appetite suppression, actually the opposite. I'm able to put more food away then I have been before. Though to be fair when I am on cycle I tend to train/eat harder, it motivates me to push harder. Weight wise I am up almost 4 pounds since I started, think I might need to lower caloric intake a tad bit. A lil bloated from the test, I wanted to see if I could get away without running an AI as I am only running 300mg Test-P a week, but guess not. Would bet a good amount of that 4 pounds is water weight. Started taking Arimidex yesterday. Hard to tell if any muscle leaning out from the slight bloat, At this point I am around 15% body fat at 225 lbs.

My recommendation would be not to swap. It's still early in the cycle. I don't experience sides either brother. Some do and some don't. One thing I see from tren is strength increase and leaning of the muscle. But the leaning out don't come till over half way through. But that's how it effects me. Of course I'm not as big as you weighing 225.

 

[54chev]

Syck, I cannot speak for mfl or the tren..but tren itself does cause hunger instead of suppresed appetite in some, does to me, and same with bloat. My gut gets angry on tren as well. Looks like gh gut.

 

[Reko1990]

My recommendation would be not to swap. It's still early in the cycle. I don't experience sides either brother. Some do and some don't. One thing I see from tren is strength increase and leaning of the muscle. But the leaning out don't come till over half way through. But that's how it effects me. Of course I'm not as big as you weighing 225.

I really didn't "see" as in holy fuck I look different results until 4 weeks in. However, I felt them (Ex: Strength gains) Within the first week. I would agree with the above post keep going.

 

[Gettinbig]

Syck, I cannot speak for mfl or the tren..but tren itself does cause hunger instead of suppresed appetite in some, does to me, and same with bloat. My gut gets angry on tren as well. Looks like gh gut.

Your correct. Every person reacts different. My hunger is suppressed but some have increased. And that goes with all the effects. Some people can bulk with it. I can't!

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Do batch numbers on labels have any meaning when it comes to MFL? If so would be really interested if anyone is running their Tren-A with the 2191 batch number. Kind of giving up on their Tren-A at this point, 16 days with 0 sides or effects of what Tren is suppose to do. Don't really have the privacy to do labmax tests due to my current living situation, so if anyone else is willing to do them you can PM me and we can figure out a way for me to get you a vial. I have 3 unopened ones.



Tomorrow will be my 9th pin of the cycle, gonna swap out MFL Tren for Alphas. I was one of the very large dumbasses that made an early order from him, and very lucky to actually have received my shit. Will run that for a little bit, either things improve or things stay they same and I accept my losses.

Anyone else running this batch??

Yes, people react differently and have different sides to different compounds but I've never heard of anyone that experiences zero sides from tren.. Doesn't mean it's not possible though I suppose..

An average of 525mg a week is a pretty healthy dose IMO..

I'd stay on it for at least 5 more days until you get to the 3 week mark.. Keep us updated Syck..

 

[dper726]

Vascularity has stayed the same, I am seeing a noticeable strength increase. Having no appetite suppression, actually the opposite. I'm able to put more food away then I have been before. Though to be fair when I am on cycle I tend to train/eat harder, it motivates me to push harder. Weight wise I am up almost 4 pounds since I started, think I might need to lower caloric intake a tad bit. A lil bloated from the test, I wanted to see if I could get away without running an AI as I am only running 300mg Test-P a week, but guess not. Would bet a good amount of that 4 pounds is water weight. Started taking Arimidex yesterday. Hard to tell if any muscle leaning out from the slight bloat, At this point I am around 15% body fat at 225 lbs.

Hey bud i can't speak for mfl, matter fact I've only switched to astro tren after starting my cycle with my domestic source, which i know was 100% gtg, and astro I'm sure is GTG too 2 weeks into the switch. But anyways, sides associated with tren don't strike everyone, in fact i think sides are overly exagerated to an extent. But what majority of the people get is the sides such as insomnia, paranoia, increased anger. Insomnia is tricky, if you've been busting your ass all day through work day to then bust your ass at the gym, chances are you're gonna sleep through that side, so it might not impact you. Paranoia and anger issues is a whole other story, also dreams, I dream like crazy while on tren, vivid dreams too that don't make any fucking sense tbh. 300 test aint gonna really give you much bloat imo, i ran the same and resulted in no bloat, and regardless still ran and am running my arimidex .25 e3d. On the tren, starting four weeks you begin to see vascularity, 5th week muscle hardness. Its a game changer, could make you go from chump to champ as early as then, regardless if you are bulking or cutting. Strenght takes drastic increase around 6-8 weeks in. Again this is all from personal experience, and I've done tren couple times now and it never fails.

 

[dper726]

Anyone else running this batch??

Yes, people react differently and have different sides to different compounds but I've never heard of anyone that experiences zero sides from tren.. Doesn't mean it's not possible though I suppose..

An average of 525mg a week is a pretty healthy dose IMO..

I'd stay on it for at least 5 more days until you get to the 3 week mark.. Keep us updated Syck..

Right zero sides is unheard of, but definitely everyone I think experiences the CNS sides.

 

[Spyder]

Vascularity has stayed the same, I am seeing a noticeable strength increase. Having no appetite suppression, actually the opposite. I'm able to put more food away then I have been before. Though to be fair when I am on cycle I tend to train/eat harder, it motivates me to push harder. Weight wise I am up almost 4 pounds since I started, think I might need to lower caloric intake a tad bit. A lil bloated from the test, I wanted to see if I could get away without running an AI as I am only running 300mg Test-P a week, but guess not. Would bet a good amount of that 4 pounds is water weight. Started taking Arimidex yesterday. Hard to tell if any muscle leaning out from the slight bloat, At this point I am around 15% body fat at 225 lbs.

IMO low test dose low sides from tren.

 

[dper726]

I get same sides from either direction, although my gains are superior on the low test high tren combo.

 

[Gettinbig]

It sounds to me like he is experiencing some sides. He's getting bloat and some strength.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

It sounds to me like he is experiencing some sides. He's getting bloat and some strength.

I just checked back a few pages and he did get the cough..

Considering it's your first run with it and you don't know how you should be reacting I'd give it some more time Syck..

 

[BigShadow]

Vascularity has stayed the same, I am seeing a noticeable strength increase. Having no appetite suppression, actually the opposite. I'm able to put more food away then I have been before. Though to be fair when I am on cycle I tend to train/eat harder, it motivates me to push harder. Weight wise I am up almost 4 pounds since I started, think I might need to lower caloric intake a tad bit. A lil bloated from the test, I wanted to see if I could get away without running an AI as I am only running 300mg Test-P a week, but guess not. Would bet a good amount of that 4 pounds is water weight. Started taking Arimidex yesterday. Hard to tell if any muscle leaning out from the slight bloat, At this point I am around 15% body fat at 225 lbs.

The biggest question that know one has asked is, how many cycles do you have under your belt?

 

[Syck]

I'd stay on it for at least 5 more days until you get to the 3 week mark.. Keep us updated Syck..

Was pretty set on switching but I can do this. As for the other side effects mentioned. I'm a pretty passive person, noticed no anger issues and no one has mentioned anything to indicate otherwise, hard to judge your own character imo. As for insomnia, since the 15th I have been on spring break so the only physical activity I have done has been gym. Went on a full on relax mode, took vacation time from work lol. have 0 issues sleeping 10 or so hours a night, though I'm kinda odd as I train super late. Get to the gym around 12AM give or take half an hour. Bed time for me is normally 2;30 AM. Dreams wise nothing out of the ordinary, been getting some super hero dreams, think I am getting too excited for the Capt America 2 lol.

 

[Syck]

The biggest question that know one has asked is, how many cycles do you have under your belt?

This is my 2nd cycle. First was a Test-E Cycle 600 mg a week for 12 weeks with Epistane as a kick starter. I finished PCT for that cycle last year in December. Probably isn't the best decision to run Tren on a 2nd cycle but it is what it is.

 

[RickyM]

I'd give it at least another week to see how it goes. Everyone experiences the sides differently. This is why I encourage everyone to labmax their gear. I am positive the tren is legit. I have tested it myself and I wouldn't hesitate to run the same batch myself for my next cycle. Anyone with the same batch number (2191) please speak up on your experience with it!

I am still offering $20 store credit for labmax results of your MFL gear with picture results. Also, $50 for blood tests regardless of the result.

Ricky

 

[BigShadow]

This is my 2nd cycle. First was a Test-E Cycle 600 mg a week for 12 weeks with Epistane as a kick starter. I finished PCT for that cycle last year in December. Probably isn't the best decision to run Tren on a 2nd cycle but it is what it is.

Prob not but not much you can do about it now. Reason I ask is if you had a few under your belt you would feel the difference on tren. Not to shit on everyone elses theorys but if your pinning 500mg plus of tren ace theres no way you arent sweating your balls off every night and wanting to fuck anything that breaths (with tits I might add). Only suggestion I can make is lower your prop dosage up the tren to 700 mg, 100 ed and 25 mg of prop ed. If you dont feel it then its either bunk as hell or your immune to what is the gift of the gods to us mortals.

 

[Varvet]

Glad to see the bitcoin promotion! Contemplating jumping in, have been monitoring this thread for quite some time

 

[Syck]

Prob not but not much you can do about it now. Reason I ask is if you had a few under your belt you would feel the difference on tren. Not to shit on everyone elses theorys but if your pinning 500mg plus of tren ace theres no way you arent sweating your balls off every night and wanting to fuck anything that breaths (with tits I might add). Only suggestion I can make is lower your prop dosage up the tren to 700 mg, 100 ed and 25 mg of prop ed. If you dont feel it then its either bunk as hell or your immune to what is the gift of the gods to us mortals.

Libido is up a lot compared to what it was, I'm not feeling anything different with Tren compared to just test from what I remember. No sweating during the night though, I might be delayed on that though as it hits people at different times. I can notice a increase in sweating in the gym, but I had that on test too last time around and as mentioned earlier I push myself a lot harder in the gym on cycle, shorted rest periods etc. I might take you up on your suggestion, my ass just got adjusted to getting pinned as I only pinned quads last cycle lol. I'll have to add more injection sites then.

 

[1fnprick]

I'm running tren-e right at 750mg a week and test-e at 900mg a week.
My wife is ready to buy some plastic sheets I sweat so bad.

But honestly I can tell a big difference running tren with test.
I feel like a damn beast!

 

[hilfloskind]

Holy shit...massive doses right there.