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I would like to give some input since my Purchase............


I'm running 3cc's of Tren and Sust 250 a week. Focusing on fat loss.

By far some of the highest quality stuff I've ever bought from a company. I am getting leaner, while packing on muscle. I'm horny non stop, and my strength is through the roof. I am enjoying everything so far, and will be ordering more.
 
How about lowering dose and not needing any of it. Anybody try that one. BTW how do you know you even need it. I willl open up a can of worms here if it is gyno you are worried about just keep your estrogen in check and prolactin will follow.

There are some interesting thread you can dig up about not needing caber or prami as far as prolactin is concerned.

I am not a tren user but I have seen plenty of labs done and when estrogen is in check so is prolactin w/o prami or caber. Now I do believe none of these were over 400mgs ew.
 
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Im gonna assume your using a chem site? Any issues at half mg? Not going to throw this site under the bus but some guys have been getting sick as hell off there caber.

No it's an international source I use. No issues, for its the standard dose to keep progesterone levels down. Also like I said the only one that I've heard of making people sick is prami, so I would hate to say but it might be that.
 
How about lowering dose and not needing any of it. Anybody try that one. BTW how do you know you even need it. I willl open up a can of worms here if it is gyno you are worried about just keep your estrogen in check and prolactin will follow.

You are correct brother. But I always recommend having it on hand in case something goes wrong. I run it my whole cycle though cause I have a problem with e2 levels on just the slightest increase in test as well as prolactin levels increase on test alone too. Im one of the unfortunate.
 
I would like to give some input since my Purchase............


I'm running 3cc's of Tren and Sust 250 a week. Focusing on fat loss.

By far some of the highest quality stuff I've ever bought from a company. I am getting leaner, while packing on muscle. I'm horny non stop, and my strength is through the roof. I am enjoying everything so far, and will be ordering more.

You noticed all of that in a week bro??
 
How about lowering dose and not needing any of it. Anybody try that one. BTW how do you know you even need it. I willl open up a can of worms here if it is gyno you are worried about just keep your estrogen in check and prolactin will follow.

There are some interesting thread you can dig up about not needing caber or prami as far as prolactin is concerned.

I am not a tren user but I have seen plenty of labs done and when estrogen is in check so is prolactin w/o prami or caber. Now I do believe none of these were over 400mgs ew.

Interesting, always wondered that, but never saw any evidence-based off it. Im going to.have to find this thread you speak of. 400 mg a week should be plenty for almost anyone imo.
 
How about lowering dose and not needing any of it. Anybody try that one. BTW how do you know you even need it. I willl open up a can of worms here if it is gyno you are worried about just keep your estrogen in check and prolactin will follow.

There are some interesting thread you can dig up about not needing caber or prami as far as prolactin is concerned.

I am not a tren user but I have seen plenty of labs done and when estrogen is in check so is prolactin w/o prami or caber. Now I do believe none of these were over 400mgs ew.

I actually just like the overall feeling that caber brings. That is me. I am highly adhd though and I think the dopamine atagonist actually is something that helps me. I will always say the same thing. It is better to have it on hand and not need it than to need it and not have it.
 
There is more than one and there are some write ups about it out there. I have been on the fence with tren for years but I think I might run a small dose cycle sometime in the near future and run labs, keep estrogen in check and log it up. There are some logs laying around here too shadow the research is there sometimes we just have to add it up.. I really like the underground but I think it would be good if we started pushing the envelope on lab based cycles and what is really needed. Now I know everyone is different and physiological make up can differ so none of this is saying hey you..... you must do this.. Labs though are for more then testing test levels just to make sure you UGL is legit. Maybe they will tell you....you don't have to dump unnecessary chemicals in your body..
 
I actually just like the overall feeling that caber brings. That is me. I am highly adhd though and I think the dopamine atagonist actually is something that helps me. I will always say the same thing. It is better to have it on hand and not need it than to need it and not have it.

Not disagreeing Whodat at all. That is why I am very careful not to make a blanket statement. Actually if you told me you took it for sexual side aide I can completely buy that. I have seen if your on anti depressants it will increase their effect so even if you are not on meds the dopamine antagonist part will help that. I just wonder what other long term risks you are adding into the mix. These are good discussions we should be having but I do not want to hijack MFL's thread. I look forward to moving this over to the forum at some point.
 
Oh and here's my bloods from two weeks when I was sick and people didn't want to believe I didn't get total test levels. He just checks for lipids cholesterol liver kidney that stuff. What's whited out is the location of my doctor not hiding anything. Told you will also post labs from labcop when I get them. The guy told me it would be Monday since I got them done yesterday afternoon. But will post those as I mentioned when I get them so no I didn't adjust my levels according to this test because it didn't have the values.View attachment 13971View attachment 13972View attachment 13973

Hey bro, just wondering if you have any updates on your blood test.
 
No update.
Bloods were drawn at 215 Thursday. The guy there said it would be Monday. They would email them to me. I checked my spam mail and regular throughout the day nothing yet. Tomorrow I'm guessing said 2-3 business day
 
Anybody having trouble with the silicone stoppers? While drawing today noticed quite a bit of leakage from the stopper. This was only the third time drawing from it. Never had this happen with a rubber stopper.
 
No update.
Bloods were drawn at 215 Thursday. The guy there said it would be Monday. They would email them to me. I checked my spam mail and regular throughout the day nothing yet. Tomorrow I'm guessing said 2-3 business day

Thanks man. I'm curious to see what your numbers are.
 
Anybody having trouble with the silicone stoppers? While drawing today noticed quite a bit of leakage from the stopper. This was only the third time drawing from it. Never had this happen with a rubber stopper.

Someone else mentioned it a while ago. I'd draw it up and put it into another sterile vial if it's that bad.
 
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