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Anabolic Steroids
Myth Buster - Prolactin Tren/Deca
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Yeah just read it and make sure it has everything you're looking for
EcpertRealistic
Banned
I have no issues at 150mg/week test. Go that route till u figure things out. May not finish your cycle as strong as you wanted but that's it.
150mg/week test is like having 10 balls hanging from your hammer. Healthy males produce average 30mgs test a week (2 balls=30mgs) 15 MG's per ball
150mg/week test is like having 10 balls hanging from your hammer. Healthy males produce average 30mgs test a week (2 balls=30mgs) 15 MG's per ball
@Lilleo187 i hope you listen to us. Fuck your shit up it will be the end of your AAS cycles. Longevity man. It's not a sprint
LooneyTuned
Member
Should i check prolactin or progesterone? I dont see how my e2 can be high since i never went over 150mg of test and now im running 100mg for the past 3 weeks. My e2 was at 20 with 150mg.
I have had friends try to take caber or prami for low prolactin,you know happened? Nothing! It took them 3-6 months without getting a boner or losing sensitivity in there breast. You can't take a pill to fix everything you're going through. It really doesn't matter at this point because you won't be able to fix it. All you need to do is get letro and worry about your gyno. Be lucky your dick works and stop fuckin with Tren. Never ever not take an AI.. you're estrogen prone and take 12.5 mg of Aromasin EOD. Don't worry about how you can stay on cycle because if you do you will have utters for pecs.
You most likely already have glandular tissue. That is why when you eat certain foods it seems worse. Eat clean and it won't happen as much. I know this because I had gyno and if I ate crap like McDonald's the next day they would be swollen bad
It appears you do have glandular tissue. You can try SERMS to see if they reduce it. If not surgery is the only option
[/QUOTE]Im only getting advice from other forums and here. I was takin nolva @ 40mg for 2 weeks then dropped it to 20mg for another 2 weeks but it didnt do anything. I dont pct, i blast and cruise. Ive only done 2 cycles and im on my 2nd cruise now. Somebody on another forum said prolactin wont go down on its own and that i shuld get caber or prami.[/QUOTE]
Well you don't know if it is prolactin because you didn't get it tested. Don't start taking more shit in the dark. Get more bloods done and get the e2 sensitive along with progesterone and prolactin levels. YOU NEED TO BE TAKING ADVICE FROM YOUR DR NOT INTERNET FORUMS
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That's best. The female is what I order.[/QUOTE]
Ive already done 3 female panels in the past 2 month and all three had my e2 come back at 20. I have never checked prolactin or progesterone so maybe this is causing the gyno? I know your not supposed to squeeze them but i did just to check and some clear fluid comes out of the pores of my nipples but Ive always had this fluid even before i started steroids but never had any gyno issue until now.[/QUOTE]
You won't know until you get the bloodwork done
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-vegeta-
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take caber for low prolactin??? isnt that the opposite of what it does?
The average, Healthy make will produce between 7-12mg of testosterone a day or about 50-90mg a week. Where you come up with 30mg a week is anybody's guess....
LooneyTuned
Member
Going to get bloodwork done here shortly. I ordered the Hormone Panel with F&T Testosterone LC/MS-MS with Prolactin. I'll report back when i get my results back.
My bad I was just going fast but yes you're correct. This kid has got me nervous on the lack of understanding what is about to happen. Never once had he said he stop his cycle. My mind is blown. Well 5000 later he will not have to worry about it I guess
LooneyTuned
Member
Im not on a cycle my man. Im on a cruise. 100test/100tren isnt a cycle. This was caused by nandrolone or high test due to my deca being test.
Why Keep the Tren?
LooneyTuned
Member
Helps me maintain more muscle since im cutting.
I would recommend just going with test. But I'm sure somebody else here will chirp in and tell you why
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LooneyTuned
Member
Tren doesnt aromatize so i dont see a problem with it. Ive also used this protocol before with out any issue.
All 19-nor-androgens (So chemical structure Family of e.g. Deca-Durabolin and Trenbolone) can cause progesteron induced gyno.
19-nor-androgens are also called 19-nor-testosteron and this is because they are identical in structure to testosteron except for a missing carbon atom at the 19th position.
(all anabolic/androgenic steroids we know are based on testosteron except for ethylestrenol which is based on progesteron)
Nonsense that Deca doesn't cause gyno! --> It causes both forms!
Sure Deca has only 20% of the capacity (of Test) to form estrogens, but by it being prostagenic (meaning it can bind to the progesteron-receptors, progesteron in women causes breasts to grow and the milkproduction to start, so in men it does the same and couple that with the estradiol + estron production and things won't get any better) it is even harder to treat Deca-Gyno!
Now with the exception of Oxabolone (which I have here lying just waiting to be converted and shot in my body
And trestolone (Unalkylated Cheque drops, which need to be injected, so no more crazy livertoxicity!), all 19-nor-androgens can cause a rather nasty form of gyno...
Now the thing is that ProgesteronGyno is only induced if enough estrogen is present.
Now I want to set things straight:
All performance enhancing steroids (with the exception of about 3) can cause gyno!
The thing is that we rarely see DHT-derivatives cause gyno is because they have the ability to block aromatase (the enzyme that converts compounds to estrogens)
