Neo Anabolics (US DOMESTIC)

You apparently didn’t read the 6 pages of people spoon feeding him direction. He’s a liar, he can’t do basic math, and he refuses to acknowledge he doesn’t have the correct equipment to produce a safe sterile product. Dude do you even read before you post?


Edit- on yeah he also has used lab equipment that’s filthy, does batches of 100 orals so batch testing is out the window, which is kinda important given this guy produced orals 10x their label dosage I’m guessing because of his piss poor math. The orals have no testing at all fyi
Yes I have read it, did you not see where I said most sources that succeeded started out bad.

Still waiting for you to provide the “many great sources” here ….

Also I know a dammm good source who doesn’t have your favorite toy - laminar hood flow or whatever you ghouled up with. Makes great gear without it. You keep thinking you’re the source police but ya let Axle slide for guac, lies, contamination, terrible math etc. Yes you sent out testing but he made some big mistakes and you vouched for him and now he’s doing much better.
 
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Yes I have read it, did you not see where I said most sources that succeeded started out bad.

Still waiting for you to provide the “many great sources” here ….

Also I know a dammm good source who doesn’t have your favorite toy - laminar hood flow or whatever you ghouled up with. Makes great gear without it. You keep thinking you’re the source police but ya let Axle slide for guac, lies, contamination, terrible math etc. Yes you sent out testing but he made some big mistakes and you vouched for him and now he’s doing much better.
Do you ever wonder how you’ve made it 6 years with no change in membership? Because you can’t read. You have these meritless arguments about shit you have no clue about because once again, can’t read. Look at the post you just made skipping apparently the entire thread and you made yourself look stupid.

There are many good sources yes. Look around. You’ve been here 6 years I don’t need to spoon feed you the g2g sources

I never vouched for him once, please show me the post where I did. I was one, if not the first one to call him out on his gear smelling like guac.

How did I “let him slide” by ordering testing and posting it publicly when it was bad? Then never doing business with him again? Dude you are living in a different reality than everyone else.

If you could read, you could probably contribute more to the forum but you walk into a thread read no part of it, then post something that makes no sense.

I’d love to see 1 single test you’ve ever ordered in these 6 years. You just take Stan at his word, kind of the opposite of what you’re preaching huh?
 
Do you ever wonder how you’ve made it 6 years with no change in membership? Because you can’t read. You have these meritless arguments about shit you have no clue about because once again, can’t read. Look at the post you just made skipping apparently the entire thread and you made yourself look stupid.

There are many good sources yes. Look around. You’ve been here 6 years I don’t need to spoon feed you the g2g sources

I never vouched for him once, please show me the post where I did. I was one, if not the first one to call him out on his gear smelling like guac.

How did I “let him slide” by ordering testing and posting it publicly when it was bad? Then never doing business with him again? Dude you are living in a different reality than everyone else.

If you could read, you could probably contribute more to the forum but you walk into a thread read no part of it, then post something that makes no sense.

I’d love to see 1 single test you’ve ever ordered in these 6 years. You just take Stan at his word, kind of the opposite of what you’re preaching huh?
Haha you take the titles personally huh… that’s a good boy. Bet you told your mommy you got promoted on Meso lol

Still waiting on your many great sources dumb fuk ….

You’ve been here less than a year and have over 1300 posts but tell others to get off the internet lol and take a break. Keep thinking you know anything. You were called out the other day on your laminar hood and just like when you were asked to post pics of your fat fucking lard ass you clam up, make excuses and don’t say shit !!!

I take Stan at experience and time earned unlike you newbie ass bitch. Now go back to policing the sources bozo hahaha go get em inspector gadget !!
 
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Hey guys, made a list of oils with their sale pricing. A couple guys contacted me and were unaware of the sale. Thought it would be easier for everyone.
 
Keep swinging.. you'll land a punch eventually..
Please do not let a marginal amount of savings endanger your health people.

We all work hard for our bodies. Google abcess and tell me that’s how you want your body to look like after you spend countless hours in the gym and eating correctly.

This clown has proven himself incapable of producing a safe product. If you’re hurting that much for money buy some raws and pm me, I’ll be happy to guide you through any home brewing questions you may have.
Speaking of Clowns, Nightprowler7, did you ever write your Vodka spaghetti sauce cookbook? Or are ready to give another lecture on the evaporative properties of BA? Speak less and listen more!
 
Speaking of Clowns, Nightprowler7, did you ever write your Vodka spaghetti sauce cookbook? Or are ready to give another lecture on the evaporative properties of BA? Speak less and listen more!
Not helpful at all. Just taunting. How many times have you played the BA/vodka sauce bit? You really amuse yourself.

You messed up your handle.
Check the user settings. There's an option in there to change it.
 
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Not helpful at all. Just taunting. How many times have you played the BA/vodka sauce bit? You really amuse yourself.

You messed up your handle.
Check the user settings. There's an option in there to change it.
If the question in your deleted post about shipping alternatives was genuine, feel free to email me. I can discuss alternatives.
 
Speaking of Clowns, Nightprowler7, did you ever write your Vodka spaghetti sauce cookbook? Or are ready to give another lecture on the evaporative properties of BA? Speak less and listen more!
For a solid 2 days I didn’t even know wtf you were talking about so didn’t bother replying. It’s jaw dropping you are debating (let alone remembering) something a stranger said to you on the internet like 9 months ago shows you must have ZERO life.

I’m sorry it’s such an abstract concept to you alcohol evaporates when you apply heat. Perhaps one day you’ll come to terms with it.

I hope you find something more productive to think about and find something that makes you happy
 
I decided to nut up and give this guy a shot, so I'll have several updates, probably over the course of the next month or so - "FEELZ" report, did I get an infection and die?, bloodwork, etc. If I'm not broke, I'll look into sending some samples off for testing. Don't hold me to that last one though, I have a crippling ladyboy hooker addiction.

Here's my initial impression: @NeoAnabolics came here starting off with good testing and an above average intro, nothing crazy, but up to MESO standards. Right away, a few members pointed out some things that should still probably be addressed, such as dosing with orals, sanitation, proper lab equipment/PPE, etc. I've been here a while and figured I should be the guinea pig for everyone, so take that for what it's worth. If anyone here knows me, they'd know my first ever UGL source was from MESO, and it didn't end up very pretty for them (spoiler: I basically ruined them for being dogshit and they no longer source here). Once more on the last point, I don't shill for anyone, ever. That being said, if Neo ends up being complete trash, well...it's safe to say he won't be doing much business here in the future.

The good:
- Shipping was fairly fast
- Vials/stoppers look high(ish) quality
- Packaging was probably some of the best I've ever seen
- All products ordered passed the smell test/blacklight test/flashlight test

The bad:
- The vials are not filled evenly. C'mon man :rolleyes:

What should be improved on/nitpicking:
- See above
- Better selection
- Faster response time
- BA/BB ratio listed on vial
- Probably some better labels
- Batch numbers/different colored caps for each compound

I think Neo could be a good domestic source moving forward, my genuine observation is that he's probably some dude who brews for himself, and wants to make some extra dough. I don't believe he's trying to scam or hurt anyone, but I'll hold my breath on that.

My only other critiques would be to have more competitive pricing (when not running a sale) as this well help you stand out, invest in some better equipment, and if you really want to set yourself apart - look into extra testing measures like @readalot has posted about in the past. I think even something like doing guaiacol testing is always an added bonus to show you're not being a lazy shithead brewer. I also feel you should disclose what type of MCT you're using due to some users having certain sensitivities (hint: if it's the cheap kind, C12, or some shit).

Feel free to roast me, I don't give a fuck, and you're gay.
 

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I would never want to be a “Guinea pig” myself.

The negatives far outweigh the pros of fast shipping and good packaging. Just my two cents…

@Vanargandar I figured you learned your lesson buying cheap gear from pharmahgh and getting an infection. But you do you man. Hopefully you have good insurance

 
I decided to nut up and give this guy a shot, so I'll have several updates, probably over the course of the next month or so - "FEELZ" report, did I get an infection and die?, bloodwork, etc. If I'm not broke, I'll look into sending some samples off for testing. Don't hold me to that last one though, I have a crippling ladyboy hooker addiction.

Here's my initial impression: @NeoAnabolics came here starting off with good testing and an above average intro, nothing crazy, but up to MESO standards. Right away, a few members pointed out some things that should still probably be addressed, such as dosing with orals, sanitation, proper lab equipment/PPE, etc. I've been here a while and figured I should be the guinea pig for everyone, so take that for what it's worth. If anyone here knows me, they'd know my first ever UGL source was from MESO, and it didn't end up very pretty for them (spoiler: I basically ruined them for being dogshit and they no longer source here). Once more on the last point, I don't shill for anyone, ever. That being said, if Neo ends up being complete trash, well...it's safe to say he won't be doing much business here in the future.

The good:
- Shipping was fairly fast
- Vials/stoppers look high(ish) quality
- Packaging was probably some of the best I've ever seen
- All products ordered passed the smell test/blacklight test/flashlight test

The bad:
- The vials are not filled evenly. C'mon man :rolleyes:

What should be improved on/nitpicking:
- See above
- Better selection
- Faster response time
- BA/BB ratio listed on vial
- Probably some better labels
- Batch numbers/different colored caps for each compound

I think Neo could be a good domestic source moving forward, my genuine observation is that he's probably some dude who brews for himself, and wants to make some extra dough. I don't believe he's trying to scam or hurt anyone, but I'll hold my breath on that.

My only other critiques would be to have more competitive pricing (when not running a sale) as this well help you stand out, invest in some better equipment, and if you really want to set yourself apart - look into extra testing measures like @readalot has posted about in the past. I think even something like doing guaiacol testing is always an added bonus to show you're not being a lazy shithead brewer. I also feel you should disclose what type of MCT you're using due to some users having certain sensitivities (hint: if it's the cheap kind, C12, or some shit).

Feel free to roast me, I don't give a fuck, and you're gay.
Firstly, I want to thank @Vanargandar for trusting me enough to put in an order. I am also very thankful for your honest review and your suggestions on what I should improve. Orals testing has been paid to Jano, they have not been sent out yet. I will have a flow hood for the next batch brewed and proof will be uploaded. Sorry, I use a bottle top dispenser which limits accuracy to +0.15ml. I will do better on making them all evenly filled. The labels will include batch number on the future brews as well as there will be a wider selection of tested products. I will work on a label design as well. I think guaiacol testing can be added into my products if that is what you guys want. I brew everything with MCT C8/C10, BA is 1% and BB is 15-20%. I try not to brew high concentrations. Please comment if I missed anything.
 
Here you go Neo.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IJwwZAPNEM


Great little gizmo. Can't wait for the action shots using it in the flow hood. Can you feel the support from the nurturing, caring community here?

Remind me if you will, do you test all your raws? If so, what do you test? Just HPLC for purity?

Hey readalot, yes I want to thank everyone for the support. I have one of those, I will improve on the accuracy of vials. The raws for oils were not tested only for orals. Going forward I will be testing raws of oils and continue to test raws of caps as well. Yes, currently only HPLC for purity and identification of compound. I want to get as close as possible to dosing on labels. @Vanargandar suggested guaiacol which can definitely be incorporated in the next batch that I brew. I will also take into consideration additional testing. Thank you for your kind suggestions.
 
I would never want to be a “Guinea pig” myself.

The negatives far outweigh the pros of fast shipping and good packaging. Just my two cents…

@Vanargandar I figured you learned your lesson buying cheap gear from pharmahgh and getting an infection. But you do you man. Hopefully you have good insurance

I very much so learned my lesson, and trust me, I already have things in place in case something goes awry. However, since joining the board I have done quite a bit to contribute to harm reduction and this is no different. There are plenty of sources here who haven't done anything close to Neo, yet people g2g them all the time. In the 3 years I've been here (+ half a year lurking), some of the best sources on this board started off rocky, along with having issues after being established. To me, it seems like members pick and choose which sources to shit on and which sources to give a pass without any rhyme or reason - which is fucking stupid, flat out. I'm not trying to claim to be a member of the "Old Guard" of MESO by any means, but the term *vetting* means absolutely nothing here nowadays other than taking a fat dump on new sources, even if they seem to be acting in good faith. If Neo sucks, he sucks, and he'll lose a very lucrative revenue stream from, what I believe, is the best message board around. As I mentioned, I will personally crucify him and provide the receipts to back it up.

I'd also like to point out that PharmaHGH was NOT cheap, by any means, and their shipping times weren't anything special either.

Another thing; I have no qualms with you and appreciate your postings/interactions on MESO, just so we're clear on that.

Firstly, I want to thank @Vanargandar for trusting me enough to put in an order. I am also very thankful for your honest review and your suggestions on what I should improve. Orals testing has been paid to Jano, they have not been sent out yet. I will have a flow hood for the next batch brewed and proof will be uploaded. Sorry, I use a bottle top dispenser which limits accuracy to +0.15ml. I will do better on making them all evenly filled. The labels will include batch number on the future brews as well as there will be a wider selection of tested products. I will work on a label design as well. I think guaiacol testing can be added into my products if that is what you guys want. I brew everything with MCT C8/C10, BA is 1% and BB is 15-20%. I try not to brew high concentrations. Please comment if I missed anything.
All of these things will be a welcome, and positive, improvement. I sincerely hope you can continue to get better at your craft and offer an affordable, and quality, domestic option to set yourself apart from the other domestic sources here on MESO.

One last thing to touch on, and I'm sure plenty of people are going to shit on me for it; @readalot may come off as annoying to some people, but I genuinely think some of the points he brings up are helpful in the name of harm reduction. Does some of it make sense from a business perspective, i.e. maximizing profits? Probably not. Could SOME of his suggestions be overkill? Possibly. But if we're striving to mold a sub-par source into a potentially great source, these small details could end up being a better return on investment, not only for said seller, but for us as a community looking to reduce harm for the end user.
 
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I very much so learned my lesson, and trust me, I already have things in place in case something goes awry. However, since joining the board I have done quite a bit to contribute to harm reduction and this is no different. There are plenty of sources here who haven't done anything close to Neo, yet people g2g them all the time. In the 3 years I've been here (+ half a year lurking), some of the best sources on this board started off rocky, along with having issues after being established. To me, it seems like members pick and choose which sources to shit on and which sources to give a pass without any rhyme or reason - which is fucking stupid, flat out. I'm not trying to claim to be a member of the "Old Guard" of MESO by any means, but the term *vetting* means absolutely nothing here nowadays other than taking a fat dump on new sources, even if they seem to be acting in good faith. If Neo sucks, he sucks, and he'll lose a very lucrative revenue stream from, what I believe, is the best message board around. As I mentioned, I will personally crucify him and provide the receipts to back it up.

I'd also like to point out that PharmaHGH was NOT cheap, by any means, and their shipping times weren't anything special either.

Another thing; I have no qualms with you and appreciate your postings/interactions on MESO, just so we're clear on that.


All of these things will be a welcome, and positive, improvement. I sincerely hope you can continue to get better at your craft and offer an affordable, and quality, domestic option to set yourself apart from the other domestic sources here on MESO.

One last thing to touch on, and I'm sure plenty of people are going to shit on me for it; @readalot may come off as annoying to some people, but I genuinely think some of the points he brings up are helpful in the name of harm reduction. Does some of it make sense from a business perspective, i.e. maximizing profits? Probably not. Could SOME of his suggestions be overkill? Possibly. But if we're striving to mold a sub-par source into a potentially great source, these small details could end up being a better return on investment, not only for said seller, but for us as a community looking to reduce harm for the end user.
Once this batch is sold, I will start implementing certain changes you guys want to see. Everyone will not see eye to eye, that is normal. I agree, readalot is bringing up solid points in regards to testing. Some of it I believe can be implemented as a standard. The technology to reduce harm reduction is there, just a matter of what people want. Thank you all for the guidance. The forum belongs to you guys not us.
 
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