novice here with an unusual problem looking for help

[Amgiji]

I've tried rephrasing this many times, but I will just be direct.

short version

I want to learn everything about HGH, igf-1, DHT to get the most out of the rare situation I'm in as I can in the next 10 months
(while NOT blowing out my liver) then transitioning to in a long-term setup to do strongman events.

who do I ask/where do I repost this question?

overly detailed explanation (aka my life story) below.



long version

I have seen just about every doctor I can afford; I passed the limit of what my main doctor and even genetics and multiple endocrinologists could figure out.

as far as anyone can figure out my puberty stopped at around 13-14 years old and resumed over a decade later.

I grew 6 inches taller in 8 months.
trying to understand what's happening I got my hormones checked testosterone was like 250 ng/dl (lower than an 80 year old man or an 8 year old tanner stage 2 child) after taking fluconazole for 2 months to treat candida the fluconazole which inhibited the cyp3A4 pathway doing that made my testosterone stick around longer indirectly raising my DHT, that indirect increase was enough to help my borderline erectile dysfunction, cause my penis to grow 3ish inches and my testicles to also grow from tiny fish oil capsule sized to 80 and 90% of normal size respectively and went from 306lbs to 210ish.

this was enough to convince my main doctor even if we can't find what's going on something is going on and he gave me a prescription for testosterone cream, from a compounding pharmacy (that I need to pay for out of pocket) where we learned some things, taking exogenous testosterone did not replace my natural production only adding to it and as a sperm test before and after this confirmed taking exogenous testosterone increased my fertility.
also I aromatize heavily, taking is smallest dose of testosterone 5 mg per gram of topical cream applied to my forearms once per day my estradiol went from 25 to 50 pg/mL so I was also prescribed Arimidex.

while things aren't perfect, I live in a taller area so I'm still chest height to a lot of men my age, lost about 100lbs going from 300 but still look 250ish, I still have very low strength benching 70ish pounds and gain strength very slowly I took 3 months to add 5lbs to my rack pull, sexual health and fertility could still be improved substantially, testosterone to DHT ratio is 13.53 (and 5α-Reductase 2 deficiency is usually diagnosed with T/DHT ratio around 18) ect.



I still feel like I have a second chance at life.



but I have a genetic condition where my join integrity is not good and Arimidex does not help, I will need to lower the dose in about 10 months (when I can get my next bone scan to see what going on) for my bones sake but my growth plates will 100% close after that. (I can't find a lot researching this but one thing I did is the older you are when you get your estradiol surges the faster the plates close) and I want to improve my health and functioning as much as I can.
I want to get anything I can out of this (without blowing out my liver) in those 10 months and then to make up for lost time figure out a long-term dose to help me do strongman events.

I want to learn everything I can about HGH, igf-1, DHT.
who do I ask/where do I repost this question?

 

[4Drago]

Were you severely obese when puberty started/was supposed to start?

 

[Jin23]

I want to learn everything I can about HGH, igf-1, DHT.
who do I ask/where do I repost this question?

You don't really have a question at this point, you have the need to research, ... so start searching the forum and the internet. And by all means, don't just start using anything. RhGH has a lot of actions, some of the most notable are:

- The GH-IGF-1 system is a hormonal modulator of renal tubular sodium and water reabsorption which is a direct action of GH - IGF-1 on the kidneys and not via RAAS. This impacts electrolyte balance and water retention.
- In a broad sense; effects on glucose management via hepatic and renal tubular gluconeogenesis stimulation. Brain fog, insulin resistance, etc.
- It can even stimulate increases in kidney mass via IGF-1.
- It effects the HPA axis directly and indirectly via enzyme modulation (11β-Hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase)
- Both IGF-1 and GH are capable of inhibiting NREMs; GH is a REM promotor and it fragments sleep (which might not be as evident at the beginning of usage because of it's initial sedating effects).
- It even effects neurotransmitter levels.
- Via IGF-1 might promote colon cancer if predisposed to polyps.
- Etc.

It's a complicated topic, the internet and the bro forums (such as this one) are full of misinformation and bro's which are full of misguided advice and practice, so take your time to properly study it's effects and be mindful of delineating misinformation/stupidity from actual scientific data. Good luck.

 

[Amgiji]

Were you severely obese when puberty started/was supposed to start?

yes and no "husky" but not like 300 pounds at 9 years old

idk if you know this is a good comparison but it's all I can think of, similar build to eddie hall's son maximus at that age

 

[Amgiji]

You don't really have a question at this point, you have the need to research, ... so start searching the forum and the internet. And by all means, don't just start using anything. RhGH has a lot of actions, some of the most notable are:

- The GH-IGF-1 system is a hormonal modulator of renal tubular sodium and water reabsorption which is a direct action of GH - IGF-1 on the kidneys and not via RAAS. This impacts electrolyte balance and water retention.
- In a broad sense; effects on glucose management via hepatic and renal tubular gluconeogenesis stimulation. Brain fog, insulin resistance, etc.
- It can even stimulate increases in kidney mass via IGF-1.
- It effects the HPA axis directly and indirectly via enzyme modulation (11β-Hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase)
- Both IGF-1 and GH are capable of inhibiting NREMs; GH is a REM promotor and it fragments sleep (which might not be as evident at the beginning of usage because of it's initial sedating effects).
- It even effects neurotransmitter levels.
- Via IGF-1 might promote colon cancer if predisposed to polyps.
- Etc.

It's a complicated topic, the internet and the bro forums (such as this one) are full of misinformation and bro's which are full of misguided advice and practice, so take your time to properly study it's effects and be mindful of delineating misinformation/stupidity from actual scientific data. Good luck.

You don't really have a question at this point, you have the need to research, ... so start searching the forum and the internet. And by all means, don't just start using anything. RhGH has a lot of actions, some of the most notable are:

- The GH-IGF-1 system is a hormonal modulator of renal tubular sodium and water reabsorption which is a direct action of GH - IGF-1 on the kidneys and not via RAAS. This impacts electrolyte balance and water retention.
- In a broad sense; effects on glucose management via hepatic and renal tubular gluconeogenesis stimulation. Brain fog, insulin resistance, etc.
- It can even stimulate increases in kidney mass via IGF-1.
- It effects the HPA axis directly and indirectly via enzyme modulation (11β-Hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase)
- Both IGF-1 and GH are capable of inhibiting NREMs; GH is a REM promotor and it fragments sleep (which might not be as evident at the beginning of usage because of it's initial sedating effects).
- It even effects neurotransmitter levels.
- Via IGF-1 might promote colon cancer if predisposed to polyps.
- Etc.

It's a complicated topic, the internet and the bro forums (such as this one) are full of misinformation and bro's which are full of misguided advice and practice, so take your time to properly study it's effects and be mindful of delineating misinformation/stupidity from actual scientific data. Good luck.

thank you for the reply and for the concern.
I haven't started anything yet.

I know that "bro forums" have poor consistency for information but they have people who have a large amount of experience about things you just can't google, my idea being not to take advice from everyone but to find 1 or 2 really knowledgeable people on the subject.

I am aware of many dangerous side effects are possible but I'm in a bad spot in all areas of life and if all this does is make it so I don't have to try to live a completely unviable highly diminished existence for another 5 decades well that might not be the worst thing in and of itself.

 

[Jin23]

thank you for the reply and for the concern.
I haven't started anything yet.

I know that "bro forums" have poor consistency for information but they have people who have a large amount of experience about things you just can't google, my idea being not to take advice from everyone but to find 1 or 2 really knowledgeable people on the subject.

I am aware of many dangerous side effects are possible but I'm in a bad spot in all areas of life and if all this does is make it so I don't have to try to live a completely unviable highly diminished existence for another 5 decades well that might not be the worst thing in and of itself.

It might also make it even more "unviable", that was the gist of what I was trying to put forth.

How old are you now?

 

[Amgiji]

It might also make it even more "unviable", that was the gist of what I was trying to put forth.

How old are you now?

27 but I have been on enough arimidex since my puberty restarted to keep my growth plates open my estradiol is undetectable (less than 5 mcg/dl) for years I actual gave myself osteopenia that's why I have a time limit, trying to grow and then get off of the arimidex as the join pian is getting pretty bad.

 

[Amgiji]

It might also make it even more "unviable", that was the gist of what I was trying to put forth.

How old are you now?

growing 6 inches in 8 months and getting on arimidex as something with my puberty is going on, and having everyone and everything drag ass for years so now I'm only like 1.5 inches taller than when I started (instead of 6) from osteopenia, waiting for people to follow up and help me is why I have no patience for your or anyone else's nonsense.

 

[Country Club Hero]

I’m just saying what I would do here and that’s a 10 week blast of Test Prop/Tren Ace/Masteron/Halotestin. No halo more than 3 weeks at a time though. Oh yeah and HGH. Not sure how tall you are trying to be but if you indeed have open growth plates you can use it to grow taller.

But all that is one masculinizing blend. I would even expect your face and jaw could change shape over time.

Sounds to me like something happened to blunt your growth and masculinization. If what you say is true those drugs will masculinize you up.

I’m not a doctor but I do have an IQ of 47. That’s good, right?

 

[malfeasance]

growing 6 inches in 8 months and getting on arimidex as something with my puberty is going on, and having everyone and everything drag ass for years so now I'm only like 1.5 inches taller than when I started (instead of 6) from osteopenia, waiting for people to follow up and help me is why I have no patience for your or anyone else's nonsense.

You grew six inches but also shrank 4.5 inches? Were these at different periods of time?

 

[Jin23]

I have no patience for your or anyone else's nonsense.

Wait, are you calling my writing nonsense? No patience?

 

[Amgiji]

You grew six inches but also shrank 4.5 inches? Were these at different periods of time?

grew six inches in 8 months started the arimidex and loss something like 3-4 inches over 4 ish years, dexa scans keep coming back worse every year.

 

[Amgiji]

Wait, are you calling my writing nonsense? No patience?

first, I meant in general.
and in regards to you specifically

It might also make it even more "unviable", that was the gist of what I was trying to put forth.

I found that overly cautious borderline patronizing, I am aware what pursuing this path may/will cost me.

 

[dafqu1]

i 2nd country club hero if you're really going through a delayed 2nd puberty take as many androgenic hormones as u can halotestin is harsh tho and hard to get u could replace it with anavar or could just leave out orals

 

[Amgiji]

i 2nd country club hero if you're really going through a delayed 2nd puberty take as many androgenic hormones as u can halotestin is harsh tho and hard to get u could replace it with anavar or could just leave out orals

thank you for the information

 

[Inspired]

grew six inches in 8 months started the arimidex and loss something like 3-4 inches over 4 ish years, dexa scans keep coming back worse every year.

You need to provide proofs because these are some serious claims and can't be believed without proofs. Show us what you have.

 

[Amgiji]

You need to provide proofs because these are some serious claims and can't be believed without proofs. Show us what you have.

like a copy of my dxea scans?
my medical records?
do you think after I figured I was done growing at 13 and started again out of nowhere over 10 years later I took a picture but made sure to keep all the same clothes (for what will soon be 4 years) because I knew I was going to lose most of it and would need to take a comparison photo?
like wtf?

 

[RiceNKimchi]

You need to provide proofs because these are some serious claims and can't be believed without proofs. Show us what you have.

my penis to grow

Dic pics or gtfo!

 

[Amgiji]

Dic pics or gtfo!

first as hard as it is to believe I am not a troll and I don't appreciate having my time wasted with this.

second do you think I would make undeniable evidence (that could be easily used to black mail me) of having a micro dick?

and do you think after I hit the bone press 7-inch mark nearly 3 years ago I wouldn't delete it and spend the rest of my life trying to forget
I had a 3(ish) inch wonder till I was 24 years old?

 

[Inspired]

like a copy of my dxea scans?
my medical records?
do you think after I figured I was done growing at 13 and started again out of nowhere over 10 years later I took a picture but made sure to keep all the same clothes (for what will soon be 4 years) because I knew I was going to lose most of it and would need to take a comparison photo?
like wtf?

Yes, provide the DEXA scans and any other imaging you have. Same thing with the medical records, but redact your sensitive personal information. No other way to help you without seeing what you have.