Odie's First Log

[HuckingFuge]

I had Tren cough EOD for like 6 weeks. than one day it stopped lol I stopped hitting the my arms with slin pins lol slin pins always made a bruise.

 

[Wunderpus]

I'm not sure. I stopped doing tren shots in my delts and haven't had the cough in awhile now though. Might just be a bad spot for me.

I always get it in the quads! Weird!

 

[smashfit]

I'm curious as to this specific side effect of Tren that you guys are describing as "tren cough" and the closing up of your throat. I'm going to do some research on the compound itself but does any one have any answers off hand? Or does this ONLY happen when you hit an artery?

 

[OdieM]

I'm not sure. I stopped doing tren shots in my delts and haven't had the cough in awhile now though. Might just be a bad spot for me.

I only pin Glutes and delts and I'm running all short esters so I have no choice. I do get tired of pinning delts though cause it hurts to lift that arm over my head the rest of that day.

I'm curious as to this specific side effect of Tren that you guys are describing as "tren cough" and the closing up of your throat. I'm going to do some research on the compound itself but does any one have any answers off hand? Or does this ONLY happen when you hit an artery?

Not sure if I wanna hear your findings, might be scary to hear. Its a hard feeling to explain. Almost like my chest has fluid in it. Im sure it's not good on the heart. Yes, I have only had it when I hit or knick a vein

 

[Wunderpus]

I'm curious as to this specific side effect of Tren that you guys are describing as "tren cough" and the closing up of your throat. I'm going to do some research on the compound itself but does any one have any answers off hand? Or does this ONLY happen when you hit an artery?

It appears to only happen when you hit a vein. For me it's most common in the quads, followed by the delts. Not sure WHY, or if it's just a coincidence. I rarely get it in my glutes.

I hope you can find some material on here you enjoy - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=trenbolone

 

[FuriousWO]

I've got it from my glutes twice in a row now, just lucky I guess. @smashfit imagine someone grabbing you by the throat but from the inside.

 

[HuckingFuge]

I'm curious as to this specific side effect of Tren that you guys are describing as "tren cough" and the closing up of your throat. I'm going to do some research on the compound itself but does any one have any answers off hand? Or does this ONLY happen when you hit an artery?

you can get the dreaded cough from any compound. Tren is just more common. hell I was getting it in my glutes for a while from Test/NNP/Mast. damn near every other shot. my wife was threatening to not give me shots anymore, cause she thought she was doing something wrong. I finally moved to shoulders and haven't had issues. I just take the cough in stride

 

[fightingfires]

I had it last cycle one time from Test E......almost couldn't catch my breath from how much it tickled in my throat. Holy shit I just sounded like a woman I dated

 

[fightingfires]

OdieM....I'm 5'6" so you're a giant to me man

 

[Roamer]

I tell y'all what though, I know it sounds horrible and scares people off from using Tren but I actually like it. No not the part where I almost die but feeling the nectar run through my body and tasting it in my mouth. Makes you feel alive and I feel like I'm David Banner trying to calm myself down so I don't let the Hulk out. lol Im serious it is a rush though.Yeah I'm an ex-addict and I get off on shit most others wouldn't.

any compound will actually do this, but at least you know you have good tren !! Makes me almost feel like I am transforming !! I usually know when I am pulling the pin out, I go ahead and sit down.

 

[fastasf]

Every time I've had the dreaded tren cough it's been from a delt shot, every freaking time.

Same here. Never had it shooting quads or glutes although I will sometimes get that burning feeling in my throat after quads but never start fully coughing.

 

[Roamer]

Hey bud I'm just now able to get to this. I'm so glad your here. Honestly I decided on the TUT program because of what Geno told me about it. I saw a little of your log and see that you use it as well, so I know you can probably help me understand it better.


Yes I absolutely love drop sets especially on BP. I always damn near max out and then drop 20-40 lbs and do 3x6-10 ( they are failure sets)

Yeah I need to clean up my diet a little for sure. I'll post it today. I've got a lot of carbs in my diet for now. I want to build strength and get a few extra pounds from the carbs. In about 5-6 weeks I'll try to cut my carbs in half. Dieting is my biggest issue for sure. Any advice from any members would be awesome.

Edit: oh and my goal is to add lean mass while droping a little BF. Yeah easier said then done but I did it my last cycle and that was a bulk. Lol. I'm thinking I will end up around 218-223. I'm currently at 211 this morning. Who knows I may blow up but I'm gonna do a serious cut in about 6 weeks so I think the goal im shooting for is realistic.

Your goals are absolutely within reach, actually I think you are undershooting it from looking at the photos you have posted. You have insane potential brother. I like the tempo TUT exercises, but at times, I found myself paying more attention to counting and would lose rep count, or lose focus on the mind muscle connection. I base my workouts now off of how everything "feels" In order to get a good workout, I have to be able to actually feel the muscle working. I will work the muscle to exhaustion, regardless the number of sets of reps it takes me to get to that point. When I leave the gym, there is no doubt I left everything I had there. The only time I count reps is when I am doing heavy compound movements(the big three) for strength gain. It is specifically for that purpose. all other stuff is done by feel. I have found that this works better for me. Everyone is different though. If people choose to do it this way, they need to really focus on knowing how to recover. I use ALOT of protein and amino acids, and take ALOT of naps now. I go to bed early and try to sleep 10 hours minimum each night if possible. My current diet info came from another good friend on another board. I really like it because It is lean, and if I want to "bulk" I just increase my portions. It consists mainly of chicken tuna, fish, and fresh green veggies. Minimal carbs- they are timed. I have some in the morning for breakfast, and a good portion after I workout for recovery along with a huge protein shake with some recovery aids in it. Generally in my workouts, I will use the TUT ( I call it isolation) I don't count, I just do the reps slow and controlled so I can feel the muscle contracting. You will find that if you do this, it usually only takes 2 or 3 sets for a good gorging pump. I will continue this process until I feel like the bodypart is going to explode. From here, I will do drop sets till failure, by this point, minimal weight is needed. I have caught guys laughing at me because I get up from a bicep machine after repping out 20 pounds thirty times. What they didn't see is the other 100 reps prior to that without stopping.

It is different for all people and again, I am just telling what helped me in means of adjustment.

I will say this though. I am a FIRM believer in quality protein, wether it be food source or powder. Creatine is proven to build muscle. Amino acids aid in the recovery process. I also believe in liver support while on cycle(very important.)

another thing I am a stickler for is becoming too dependent on the chemicals. don't let this happen. They are merely a boost. Performance enhancing drug. PED. They enhance hard work, and good nutrition. More always doesn't equal better either. There is a law of diminishing returns.

I hope this helps, this is what I have learned, and some of it I had to pay for. I don't mind sharing though if it will help others.

Keep killing it brother, and let me know if I can assist in any other way.

 

[ROB581211]

All this talk of your fina tren is making me super jealous. I've done plenty of tren before but I doubt it compares

 

[Oregongearhead]

Roamer sounds like hes been around the BB block a few times , welcome !!
~Ogh

PS - whats with all the Honey Badgers ? They are everywhere suddenly , lol

 

[rigs03]

The first time I got tren cough I dropped to my knees, then frantically started putting away all my pins and everything as much as I could because I didn't want to be found dead with a bunch of needles and vials laying around me. LOL I had even read about it before it happened, and I still thought I was dying!!

 

[OdieM]

Roamer sounds like hes been around the BB block a few times , welcome !!
~Ogh

PS - whats with all the Honey Badgers ? They are everywhere suddenly , lol

Roamer is a good bro that knows his stuff. I am very lucky to have him here.

Ok back to my workout. I'm fucking Killen it. Got a few videos I'll try my hardest to get up tonight.

 

[Roamer]

Ok back to my workout. I'm fucking Killen it. Got a few videos I'll try my hardest to get up tonight.

Wouldn't mind looking at your video I want to see your form.

 

[OdieM]

Heres the fountain for my diet for the next few weeks. It changes slightly day to day depending what my body is telling me.

Training Day Menu
Meal 1: 7 a.m.

- 10 egg whites
- 1¼ cups oatmeal (dry measure)
- 8 oz. orange juice or 1 cup mixed fruit

Meal Totals: 669 calories, 58 g protein, 93 g carbs, 7 g fat

Meal 2: 10 a.m.

- 8 oz. chicken breast- 1 small to medium potato

Meal Totals: 409 calories, 56 g protein, 37 g carbs, 3 g fat

Meal 3: 12 p.m.

- Whey protein shake (2 scoops)- 6-8 rice cakes

Meal Totals: 450 calories, 48 g protein, 58 g carbs, 2 g fat

Meal 4 (post workout): 3-4 p.m. ( I bring this and eat it at the cafe in my gym )

- 8 oz. turkey breast
- 2-3 cups cooked pasta or white rice
- 1 whole-grain roll

Meal Totals: 1,096 calories, 78 g protein, 177 g carbs, 4 g fat

Meal 5: 6-7 p.m.

- 8 oz. ground beef or Turkey(95% lean)
- 1 slice low-fat cheese
- 2 slices whole-grain bread
- 1 piece fruit

Meal Totals: 593 calories, 59 g protein, 57 g carbs, 13 g fa

Meal 6: 9 p.m.

- Whey protein shake (2 scoops)

Meal Totals: 170 calories, 40 g protein, 2 g carbs, 0 g fat

Daily Totals: 3,387 calories, 339 g protein, 424 g carbs, 29 g fat

 

[Roamer]

What time do you get up man ?

 

[OdieM]

What time do you get up man ?

lol well I went back and changed some of the times by 1 hour. When Im not out in the field working I don't have to be at the office till 8 so I usually get up around 6 and eat about 7

Like I said this is just to give y'all an idea. It changes all the time and I add almond butter to my rice cakes and oatmeal sometimes to. Tonight for dinner I'm having Salmon and shrimp.