Odie's First Log

[Docd187123]

3rd day in a row the heartburn has been severe too. Pretty sure I read it's from the dbol. I had it bad at the beginning of my last cycle as well.

Prilosec takes care of tren and var heartburn for me

 

[Docd187123]

I think someone fucked up in the lab testing that came up protein converts to glucose. no way in hell I'm going to believe protein converts to glucose.

It's multiple labs, multiple researchers, multiple sources of funding, etc. Not just one.

 

[OdieM]

If I was doing true Fina-H Tren like you are I would run it by itself (with a lil test), I would drop the Dbol or just run it as a quick starter . You"ve already got one strong-ass hormone going for you ....dont push it Odie.

Last cycle I started with dbol and as soon as I dropped it I started the tren. It allowed me to keep 75% of the dbol weight and harden it up. Im hoping by running them both together that it will take it to a whole new level. Plus the beast feeling that dbol/tren gives me together is INSANE in the gym. I probably will drop the dbol in a week though. Im tired of fighting gyno symptoms.

I will also be adding either pharmaceutical var or UGL whinny at the end of my cycle

 

[Docd187123]

Last cycle I started with dbol and as soon as I dropped it I started the tren. It allowed me to keep 75% of the dbol weight and harden it up. Im hoping by running them both together that it will take it to a whole new level. Plus the beast feeling that dbol/tren gives me together is INSANE in the gym. I probably will drop the dbol in a week though. Im tired of fighting gyno symptoms.

If gyno symptoms are flaring up hat bad then it's best you either drop it or at least take some nolva alongside it n

 

[OdieM]

If gyno symptoms are flaring up hat bad then it's best you either drop it or at least take some nova alongside it n

Ive never had it at all till this cycle. I think most of it is in my damn head. Im totally fine in the morning, but through out the day I feel a slight burning sensation in the nips and at night they are slightly puffy.

If it gets any worse I will drop the dbol immediately, but like I said they are completely normal in the morning from taking my AI the night before

 

[OdieM]

@Docd187123 how would you recommend I take the nolv?? Ive read to do this but being as Ive never had signs of gyno until now I didn't really study what I read.

 

[biglumber69]

I had a little flare up of gyno. I took 10 mg of nolvadex a day. I know if is a low amount but it got the job done. It took about 8 days to even out. There are smarter people then me that can help you out. I would also like to know what Docd187123 says how to take the nolvadex

 

[Whoremoans]

Ive never had it at all till this cycle. I think most of it is in my damn head. Im totally fine in the morning, but through out the day I feel a slight burning sensation in the nips and at night they are slightly puffy.

If it gets any worse I will drop the dbol immediately, but like I said they are completely normal in the morning from taking my AI the night before

I've read somewhere that taking nolva on cycle with tren is a bad idea because of progesterone sides.. I'm not sure how much truth there is to that but it's something worth looking into IMO.

 

[mands]

30-45 sec. Shit is brutal.

I wouldn't go longer than 35 seconds homie. Make sure you are sipping water between sets as well.

mands

 

[brutus79]

Thanks bud. This will be one for the books for sure. I might take a week off or at lest a few days. I strained my neck really bad today.

Also like @brutus79 mentioned the other day. I have been fighting gyno. Ive never had it before but last night and the night before I had to combat it. Seems completely fine today though, but fuck Im only a little over a week in. Luckly I have all pharma grade stuff to fight it

Took me eleven days of tren and dbol to have my fucking nipples throbbing. No joke man.

 

[mands]

Ive never had it at all till this cycle. I think most of it is in my damn head. Im totally fine in the morning, but through out the day I feel a slight burning sensation in the nips and at night they are slightly puffy.

If it gets any worse I will drop the dbol immediately, but like I said they are completely normal in the morning from taking my AI the night before

Sorry if I missed it. What are you running for an AI and at what dose? UGL, Peptide site or Pharm grade?

mands

 

[OdieM]

Sorry if I missed it. What are you running for an AI and at what dose? UGL, Peptide site or Pharm grade?

mands

Pharma Adex @ .25 EOD Had to take it two nights in a row the other night.

 

[Wunderpus]

Prilosec takes care of tren and var heartburn for me

Nexium is solid too, that's my go to for AAS related heartburn. Really cramps your style when you can't eat.

 

[Wunderpus]

I've read somewhere that taking nolva on cycle with tren is a bad idea because of progesterone sides.. I'm not sure how much truth there is to that but it's something worth looking into IMO.

What? I see no correlation between progesterone, nolva and tren...? IMO if you're taking nolva on cycle you need to control your e2 better.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Ya dbol related burning nips. Sucks man. I had that last blast too. Im done with dbol. Between that and the stomach cramps when I worked abs. I say fuck dbol

 

[mands]

Pharma Adex @ .25 EOD Had to take it two nights in a row the other night.

Have you got bloods on that? I would think .75mg EOD would be a better fit for your cycle.

Maybe bump it up to .50 mg EOD and see how that goes and bump it up again if need be. Get labs homie.

mands

 

[Oregongearhead]

Ya dbol related burning nips. Sucks man. I had that last blast too. Im done with dbol. Between that and the stomach cramps when I worked abs. I say fuck dbol

I said the same thing last year after a pink thai cycle . Towards the end I looked really bloated and red after 4 weeks . I also had dark urine and "spider spots" all over my chest , thats usually indictive of liver strain , although my bloods weeks later were high normal .

 

[OdieM]

Have you got bloods on that? I would think .75mg EOD would be a better fit for your cycle.

Maybe bump it up to .50 mg EOD and see how that goes and bump it up again if need be. Get labs homie.

mands

I ran .25 my last cycle and my bloods came back good. I wasn't running fina though,
I was running some UGL BS tren. this was taken at the end of my cycle. I posted bloods here for mid cycle.




^^^ By the way this was on 700mg of TrenA and 500 cyp. Yeah i know my test #'s aren't that great. Thats why I brewed this cycle
I will bump it up to .50 EOD though.

 

[Docd187123]

Get bloods done first and foremost. See what your levels are at this cycle. Using different sources for test means if you took 600mg then and 600mg now it's not guaranteed your TT levels will be similar. One test source could be underdosed etc.

20mg a day should work fine for the nolva. You could frontload it at 40mg for a couple weeks but seeing as you don't have actual gyno yet I see no rush.

 

[MEEKmlz]

Im running 600mg of ugl test E a week, ran some supposed Tbol at the beginning and I am and have been since the beginning at a steady .5mg of pharma adex EOD. No nip problems and no low E signs just helps keep the bloat away.