Opinions on Masteron in a growth phase

No you’re absolutely wrong. Your numbers make no sense. I was responding to Mr “Oswaldo” who said Masteron for growth is useless. We would compare 500+750 to just 500 solo, which obviously 1250 is going to accrue more tissue. I can assure you I’m not in the 230s on 500 test. He’s saying the Masteron is basically doing nothing so 500 test should stimulate the same growth or similar to 500+750 which is honestly just a retarded statement.

Out of track.

You has to compare 500 gr solo test vs 500 gr solo mast.
Or 750 gr solo test vs 750 solo mast to really compare each of the 2 on their own.
 
Out of track.

You has to compare 500 gr solo test vs 500 gr solo mast.
Or 750 gr solo test vs 750 solo mast to really compare each of the 2 on their own.
It’s simple, Mast isn’t comparable to test but it’s not nothing either. It’s giving you growth as well. Just figure out what is best for you and do it. Too many want to complicate things to try and break the AAS barrier of some great thing.
 

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VYfbkpbAx8


John thinks we're still living in the 2000's, he prefers mast because often primo is fake, damn dude how hard is to find a legit source nowdays with HPLC testing, or order 10-20 vials from a single batch and send a sample to jano. If you have a shitty source that sells you mast or EQ for primo, then the same source may sell you test prop instead of mast. Someone introduce him to meso guys xD I've heard him in another clip saying oil volume also is an issue, well that yeah it could be an issue if you don't want to pin 200/ml primo and you wanna go over a gram + other aas.
 

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VYfbkpbAx8


John thinks we're still living in the 2000's, he prefers mast because often primo is fake, damn dude how hard is to find a legit source nowdays with HPLC testing, or order 10-20 vials from a single batch and send a sample to jano. If you have a shitty source that sells you mast or EQ for primo, then the same source may sell you test prop instead of mast. Someone introduce him to meso guys xD I've heard him in another clip saying oil volume also is an issue, well that yeah it could be an issue if you don't want to pin 200/ml primo and you wanna go over a gram + other aas.

everyone, even my coach thinks most primo is faked. Sure the guy at your gym handing out steroids may not give you real primo but to operate as an established lab you need frequent HPLC reports. I never noticed q difference switching from 3 different labs primo. Noticed a huge difference switching to mast from primo which proves to me I definitely was never taking mast disguised as primo lol
 
everyone, even my coach thinks most primo is faked. Sure the guy at your gym handing out steroids may not give you real primo but to operate as an established lab you need frequent HPLC reports. I never noticed q difference switching from 3 different labs primo. Noticed a huge difference switching to mast from primo which proves to me I definitely was never taking mast disguised as primo lol

Wow, interesting! Can you give some details about the difference you experienced? I hope it's not a inflamed prostate and peing all day haha. Visual changes? Performance? Mood? The latter i see many guys lately feeling better on mast and that's cool.
 

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VYfbkpbAx8


John thinks we're still living in the 2000's, he prefers mast because often primo is fake, damn dude how hard is to find a legit source nowdays with HPLC testing, or order 10-20 vials from a single batch and send a sample to jano. If you have a shitty source that sells you mast or EQ for primo, then the same source may sell you test prop instead of mast. Someone introduce him to meso guys xD I've heard him in another clip saying oil volume also is an issue, well that yeah it could be an issue if you don't want to pin 200/ml primo and you wanna go over a gram + other aas.

I think the majority of his user base is the "spoon feed me" crowd that wants the be given a source and then they never interact on a forum or share experiences. I spent some time on a few influencers platforms and when you get access to their private sources there is rarely any testing and none of them are on forums. The smaller the influencer the more risky the gear.
 
Wow, interesting! Can you give some details about the difference you experienced? I hope it's not a inflamed prostate and peing all day haha. Visual changes? Performance? Mood? The latter i see many guys lately feeling better on mast and that's cool.
I do have a few moments of inflamed prostate lol but that may be moreso due to gut issues. Performance is the same. Mood is vastly better on mast than Primo. Primo had almost no “feel” to it. Just felt shitty when I didn’t have enough test to offset it. I feel like I could ramp mast higher than my test and still feel great. Didn’t have much of a libido with 500 test/400 primo, but have a very high libido now with 400 test/400 mast and feel much better too
 
I do have a few moments of inflamed prostate lol but that may be moreso due to gut issues. Performance is the same. Mood is vastly better on mast than Primo. Primo had almost no “feel” to it. Just felt shitty when I didn’t have enough test to offset it. I feel like I could ramp mast higher than my test and still feel great. Didn’t have much of a libido with 500 test/400 primo, but have a very high libido now with 400 test/400 mast and feel much better too

Awesome dude. Makes sense being able to use more mast than primo with the same test, in fact from what i've seen in most cases e2 goes pretty high but you don't experience side effects like gyno because of its serm metabolites. Seems that to get the benefits of primo you must run test pretty high (or add nandrolone) so the e2 stays at the upper range. Now i've just added primo to my test, i already have mast for the next cut.. Unless primo make me feel shit and switch it in the middle of the cut.
 
Awesome dude. Makes sense being able to use more mast than primo with the same test, in fact from what i've seen in most cases e2 goes pretty high but you don't experience side effects like gyno because of its serm metabolites. Seems that to get the benefits of primo you must run test pretty high (or add nandrolone) so the e2 stays at the upper range. Now i've just added primo to my test, i already have mast for the next cut.. Unless primo make me feel shit and switch it in the middle of the cut.
in a bulk phase Masteron is a great only for people that have high E2 , 400mg for me , EQ is a other good choise
 
I do have a few moments of inflamed prostate lol but that may be moreso due to gut issues. Performance is the same. Mood is vastly better on mast than Primo. Primo had almost no “feel” to it. Just felt shitty when I didn’t have enough test to offset it. I feel like I could ramp mast higher than my test and still feel great. Didn’t have much of a libido with 500 test/400 primo, but have a very high libido now with 400 test/400 mast and feel much better too
I completely agree. I definitely like mast MUCH MUCH more than primo. With primo I did notice some mild fullness that lasted all day. But it killed my libido, made me emotional because I couldn't dial in e2 correctly, and it felt like nothing. Like it almost blunted my emotions to a point I felt "blah" like on cruise control


Mast, everyday I'm happy, horny, confident, just loving life
 
I completely agree. I definitely like mast MUCH MUCH more than primo. With primo I did notice some mild fullness that lasted all day. But it killed my libido, made me emotional because I couldn't dial in e2 correctly, and it felt like nothing. Like it almost blunted my emotions to a point I felt "blah" like on cruise control


Mast, everyday I'm happy, horny, confident, just loving life
Agree with you. The only reason I may run primo for my next offseason is because it allows me to run test much higher and honestly my personal experiences negate what victor black and john jewett say about test, primo, and mast accruing mass at the same rate. I definitely grew much quicker when more mg were filled with test. That being said there’s a ton that they’re just flat-out wrong about. Mast lowering estrogen more than primo being one, so I just can’t trust that camp for true evidence especially when it appears all of that was based off victor black studying the molecules without any actual independent human trials
 
Hello everyone, in the process of learning and planning for a "rebuild from zero" my physique phase.

Eyeing the model of:

test/mast/hgh/insulin

At sustainable dosages year round, starting from low dosage of only test and hgh then adding the rest while monitoring bloodwork.

If we could turn this thread in a TEST/MAST collective log with progress pics especially from those of us who aim to bulk slow and steady, that would be great.

Have a nice weekend.
 
Hello everyone, in the process of learning and planning for a "rebuild from zero" my physique phase.

Eyeing the model of:

test/mast/hgh/insulin

At sustainable dosages year round, starting from low dosage of only test and hgh then adding the rest while monitoring bloodwork.

If we could turn this thread in a TEST/MAST collective log with progress pics especially from those of us who aim to bulk slow and steady, that would be great.

Have a nice weekend.
That’s a cool idea I’m game! We can get some pics up soon here
 
This is 500 test 750 mast at 234 pounds, that mast isn’t working for growth obviously View attachment 278910
So much for "mast makes you flat and empty" , some people are so used to the waterbag effects of hi-test, deca and orals that cannot discern water weight and tissue gains anymore. For reference how tall are you? 5'9" - 5'1" if I had to eyeball. Also how you felt with master higher than test libido wise?
 
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