dokdonia
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Some vials appear to be, while others do not. I don't think it's anything to worry about.I was wondering if everyone's 120iu kits are vacuum sealed??
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Some vials appear to be, while others do not. I don't think it's anything to worry about.I was wondering if everyone's 120iu kits are vacuum sealed??
I had some that weren'tI was wondering if everyone's 120iu kits are vacuum sealed??
The majority of mine have been vacuum sealed, but I have a few vials that were not, or a very light vacuum.I was wondering if everyone's 120iu kits are vacuum sealed??
If vacuum seals weren't "anything to worry about" they wouldn't do it. It's not cheap to have the necessary equipment to vacuum seal every vial. I had no problems with the Grey tops but the 24iu Blue tops had several vials in a kit without a vacuum. That to me is a sign of poor quality control so I will avoid that product. I don't think it's provided anyway.Some vials appear to be, while others do not. I don't think it's anything to worry about.
Mine yes, i mean every vialI was wondering if everyone's 120iu kits are vacuum sealed??
I heard from Vigorous Steve that lot of unsealed vials are due to re capping process by some re labelers / re sellers... garbage level 10If vacuum seals weren't "anything to worry about" they wouldn't do it. It's not cheap to have the necessary equipment to vacuum seal every vial. I had no problems with the Grey tops but the 24iu Blue tops had several vials in a kit without a vacuum. That to me is a sign of poor quality control so I will avoid that product. I don't think it's provided anyway.
Not directed at you. Here's the thing, either post a test on the kits you're taking, or don't spread conjecture. Without a test, nothing means anything. Literally, it's all anecdotal, and I say that from posting my results on the 120s and then posting anecdotal on optis Jins. I will test my IGF on the Jins in a few weeks.I heard from Vigorous Steve that lot of unsealed vials are due to re capping process by some re labelers / re sellers... garbage level 10
If vacuum seals weren't "anything to worry about" they wouldn't do it. It's not cheap to have the necessary equipment to vacuum seal every vial. I had no problems with the Grey tops but the 24iu Blue tops had several vials in a kit without a vacuum. That to me is a sign of poor quality control so I will avoid that product. I don't think it's provided anyway.
I agree, i was just talking about one reason why lot of generic vials are unsealedNot directed at you. Here's the thing, either post a test on the kits you're taking, or don't spread conjecture. Without a test, nothing means anything. Literally, it's all anecdotal, and I say that from posting my results on the 120s and then posting anecdotal on optis Jins. I will test my IGF on the Jins in a few weeks.
Get a test or stfu.
I wouldn't disagree that it could indicate a flaw in the manufacture process. Though, the 120s are supposedly from a GMP facility and they've tested sufficiently. There will always be trade-offs between generics vs pharama that have to be weighed by each individual. I should have more clearly stated I personally am not concerned about it with the 120s. At the same time, I personally would not buy the 240s over the 120s.If vacuum seals weren't "anything to worry about" they wouldn't do it. It's not cheap to have the necessary equipment to vacuum seal every vial. I had no problems with the Grey tops but the 24iu Blue tops had several vials in a kit without a vacuum. That to me is a sign of poor quality control so I will avoid that product. I don't think it's provided anyway.
I wouldn't disagree that it could indicate a flaw in the manufacture process. Though, the 120s are supposedly from a GMP facility and they've tested sufficiently. There will always be trade-offs between generics vs pharama that have to be weighed by each individual. I should have more clearly stated I personally am not concerned about it with the 120s. At the same time, I personally would not buy the 240s over the 120s if QC weighed high.
I've never had an issue. Every vial of the 120s have been vacuumed sealed.I was wondering if everyone's 120iu kits are vacuum sealed??
As @138casanova stated lipolysis and recovery. Also, connective tissue, tendon and bone strength, protein synthesis, anabolism and possible muscle hypertrophy.It's been so ingrained in me that it's IGF that really counts. What really accounts for muscle hypertrophy. What other benefits, from a bodybuilding perspective, does
HGH provide for a bodybuilder?
You're not the end all be all of what gets posted dude. Get over yourself, if people have concerns about the seals, they can post whatever the fuck they want about it. This isn't the first time you've posted this about the seals. What gives?Not directed at you. Here's the thing, either post a test on the kits you're taking, or don't spread conjecture. Without a test, nothing means anything. Literally, it's all anecdotal, and I say that from posting my results on the 120s and then posting anecdotal on optis Jins. I will test my IGF on the Jins in a few weeks.
Get a test or stfu.
It was late. Too much alcohol. I stand by testing tho.You're not the end all be all of what gets posted dude. Get over yourself, if people have concerns about the seals, they can post whatever the fuck they want about it. This isn't the first time you've posted this about the seals. What gives?
Alcohol and tren. Completely understand. Lol!!It was late. Too much alcohol. I stand by testing tho.
I actually intended to test the 240s but since it's no longer offered I didn't see the point. I'm very skeptical with these high dosed anything so I tested the 280s instead since I'm both using them and they are stilled offered. I have to admit that I was very surprised at how high potency-wise they tested using the HGH serum test.I wouldn't disagree that it could indicate a flaw in the manufacture process. Though, the 120s are supposedly from a GMP facility and they've tested sufficiently. There will always be trade-offs between generics vs pharama that have to be weighed by each individual. I should have more clearly stated I personally am not concerned about it with the 120s. At the same time, I personally would not buy the 240s over the 120s.
But isn't the muscle hypertrophy due to the IGF increase?As @138casanova stated lipolysis and recovery. Also, connective tissue, tendon and bone strength, protein synthesis, anabolism and possible muscle hypertrophy.
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I actually intended to test the 240s but since it's no longer offered I didn't see the point. I'm very skeptical with these high dosed anything so I tested the 280s instead since I'm both using them and they are stilled offered. I have to admit that I was very surprised at how high potency-wise they tested using the HGH serum test.
The 280ius as well as the Grey always have a nice strong vacuum.