dokdonia
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Some vials appear to be, while others do not. I don't think it's anything to worry about.
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Logan44551
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I had some that weren't
138casanova
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The majority of mine have been vacuum sealed, but I have a few vials that were not, or a very light vacuum.
If vacuum seals weren't "anything to worry about" they wouldn't do it. It's not cheap to have the necessary equipment to vacuum seal every vial. I had no problems with the Grey tops but the 24iu Blue tops had several vials in a kit without a vacuum. That to me is a sign of poor quality control so I will avoid that product. I don't think it's provided anyway.
FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR
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Mine yes, i mean every vial
FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR
Member
I heard from Vigorous Steve that lot of unsealed vials are due to re capping process by some re labelers / re sellers... garbage level 10
138casanova
Member
Not directed at you. Here's the thing, either post a test on the kits you're taking, or don't spread conjecture. Without a test, nothing means anything. Literally, it's all anecdotal, and I say that from posting my results on the 120s and then posting anecdotal on optis Jins. I will test my IGF on the Jins in a few weeks.
Get a test or stfu.
muscletrain
Member
All my greys/red/120iu kits have been fine with vacuum seal. If I remember correctly the claim is the greys are from GMP facility while the bigger kits are from an entirely different supplier.
FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR
Member
I agree, i was just talking about one reason why lot of generic vials are unsealed
dokdonia
Well-known Member
I wouldn't disagree that it could indicate a flaw in the manufacture process. Though, the 120s are supposedly from a GMP facility and they've tested sufficiently. There will always be trade-offs between generics vs pharama that have to be weighed by each individual. I should have more clearly stated I personally am not concerned about it with the 120s. At the same time, I personally would not buy the 240s over the 120s.
muscletrain
Member
This is my thinking, if you can afford generic GH but can't afford to get the 120s you shouldn't be buying GH imo. 0 dimer and higher purity is a no brainer for the price difference.
tauras66
Well-known Member
I've never had an issue. Every vial of the 120s have been vacuumed sealed.
As @138casanova stated lipolysis and recovery. Also, connective tissue, tendon and bone strength, protein synthesis, anabolism and possible muscle hypertrophy.
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Logan44551
Elite
You're not the end all be all of what gets posted dude. Get over yourself, if people have concerns about the seals, they can post whatever the fuck they want about it. This isn't the first time you've posted this about the seals. What gives?
138casanova
Member
It was late. Too much alcohol. I stand by testing tho.
Richard322
Member
Alcohol and tren. Completely understand. Lol!!
I actually intended to test the 240s but since it's no longer offered I didn't see the point. I'm very skeptical with these high dosed anything so I tested the 280s instead since I'm both using them and they are stilled offered. I have to admit that I was very surprised at how high potency-wise they tested using the HGH serum test.
The 280ius as well as the Grey always have a nice strong vacuum.
But isn't the muscle hypertrophy due to the IGF increase?
muscletrain
Member
Truly do have some solid Generic GH options these days, now we need to find out why the still don't hit the same as true pharma.
Venroc
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Hey guys , maybe dumb question but how do I order ? I keep getting that auto bounce back email... thanks
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