I'm on test, deca (no tren) and 600 mast e now. Give it some time but interested in what you think of it on a bulkier cycle.
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I'm on test, deca (no tren) and 600 mast e now. Give it some time but interested in what you think of it on a bulkier cycle.
Morefyah
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I’ve used this combo before but with Npp instead of Deca and Tren a not E.
Test and Deca are higher then I usually like to run them. So yeah it’s going to get bulky..
MisterSuperGod
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At 46, do you find any particular compounds that mess with your blood pressure? i'm closing in on 40 myself and it's one of my biggest concerns during a blast.
Morefyah
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Yeah man high test and tren give me unpleasant spikes once and a while. Luckily my blood pressure usually remains in a safe range. When I run tren or high test my resting heart rate gets scary high.I have never had issues with npp or mast or EQ.
Whereas npp gave me tachycardia from the first time I tried it in my early thirties. Beta blockers control it but I consider it a sign that I should stay away.
Morefyah
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Damn brother I am sorry to hear that.
You just made me google and list of culprits seems endless.
Some causes of tachycardia include:
- Adrenergic storm
- Alcohol
- Amphetamine
- Anaemia
- Antiarrhythmic agents
- Anxiety
- Atrial fibrillation
- Atrial flutter
- Atrial tachycardia
- AV nodal reentrant tachycardia
- Brugada syndrome
- Caffeine
- Cannabis (drug)
- Cocaine
- Dysautonomia
- Exercise
- Fear
- Fever
- Hypoglycemia
- Hypovolemia
- Hyperthyroidism
- Hyperventilation
- Infection
- Junctional tachycardia
- Methamphetamine
- Methylphenidate
- Multifocal atrial tachycardia
- Nicotine
- Pacemaker mediated
- Pain
- Pheochromocytoma
- Sinus tachycardia
- Tricyclic antidepressants
- Wolff–Parkinson–White syndrome
Because that was all I added and it went away as soon as it was out of my system. Most of those possibilities you listed would no doubt have the same effect. I'm pretty sure if I was smoking meth or crack my heart would be racing. If not I'd want a refund! Lol.
Good question. I’m a little confused myself as to whether or not I need an AI on trt..the trt doc put me on adex, .5mg 3x/week because my e2 climbed up to around 50 on about 180-200 mg/week of test cyp...but other than the number I had zero sides and felt good. It was when she kept upping and lowering my adex dose chasing the e2 around that I started getting acne on chest and shoulders. Many guys here have said to not take an AI unless you get negative sides from higher e2. My last blast I took .5 eod but still haven’t found that sweet spot some guys talk about.
Ran test, mast, npp in last cycle. You guys who run mast e, is it a noticeable compound for you? I ran 600/week...can’t say I noticed anything at all, maybe looked a little more cut...but when npp came into my life things happened fast and I felt “on” about 9 days in. Felt so good with npp for 3 mos I didn’t want it to end. Mast though, for me anyway was so-so. Maybe didn’t run it high enough?
Since this was originally about TRT, something I'll throw in here about compound choice. I don't think I put this up yet.
Most of us say Test is Test. I'm still partial to that for most. But in looking at the studies on Test Undecanoate and the results from the years of use in Europe, I think you have to consider this to be a superior choice if given the option. Tu was shown to have very little conversion to DHT and also less E conversion as well. In putting that to the "test", someone I know well compared Tp to Tu and found much less CNS stimulation from Tu (aka less DHT). This same individual has also used Te and had less water retention with Tu than that of Te.
Ester weight were factored in to get as close to similar amounts of T as possible. To take that even further, they doubled their Tu dosage to see when/what would happen and still found less DHT and E sides than Tp/Te.
That's pretty important when you consider the greater likelihood of conversion in the "wiser" man. Something to ponder for you other wise men who want to do not only what's possible, but also what might be best.........
Most of us say Test is Test. I'm still partial to that for most. But in looking at the studies on Test Undecanoate and the results from the years of use in Europe, I think you have to consider this to be a superior choice if given the option. Tu was shown to have very little conversion to DHT and also less E conversion as well. In putting that to the "test", someone I know well compared Tp to Tu and found much less CNS stimulation from Tu (aka less DHT). This same individual has also used Te and had less water retention with Tu than that of Te.
Ester weight were factored in to get as close to similar amounts of T as possible. To take that even further, they doubled their Tu dosage to see when/what would happen and still found less DHT and E sides than Tp/Te.
That's pretty important when you consider the greater likelihood of conversion in the "wiser" man. Something to ponder for you other wise men who want to do not only what's possible, but also what might be best.........
Worf
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Mast is shit.. prove me wrong! I’ve done and have had buddies who have ran it to. The thing about mass is it just pretty much makes you Grammy and makes you lose extra weight if you’re below 10%. I have argued with a few people on this. It is not a weight loss miracle, it’s for people who go on stage that need to push there bodies to hit 5% while maintaining muscle and drying them out. A little change your diet will pretty much do the same thing. Npp on the other is amazing for me. I can’t watch the layers of muscle on my body literally grow. Cutting on it is also very effective!
Same camp on mast e. On a cut with tren maybe but with test and deca...meh At 600mg. Feel good and libido sure but otherwise I get nothing much where winstrol makes a huge difference.
Someone asked about blood pressure. For me this is drug dependent. Test, tren and winny I'm perfect no matter my diet. On dbol, drol, etc I need to have my diet dialed in.
Morefyah
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Dude masteron isn’t only used to help people that are 10% bf get down to 5% bf. I’m not sure how many times you have used it or what your expectations were? IMO it’s one of the most versatile AAS out there. It has a effective visual effects on people @15% bf. Yeah maybe at a lower bf% effects are more noticeable. I don’t mention fat loss because any person knowledgeable with AAS knows there are other drugs for that or because it’s achievable naturally. Masteron also helps free test, helps with libido, slightly lowers estrogen. It stacks well with everything!! Only people that are balding hate mast.
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I used it twice at 600-800. Never again would I. I definitely don’t need any libido help when I am on test, aromasin lowers my E2, and my free test is high enough. Not trying to argue but IMO it really is just more to put into your body and not see a huge difference. It cannot he compared to npp, tren, deca, EQ, or even anavar. I understand it has its place but not for 40 year old dudes. That’s all, people expect things out of it but for the most part are disappointed with it. Since it’s a DHT I felt very good while on it.
Count me as a Mast user...for the sole reason of its “feel good alpha” effects. I feel like anymore than 200-300 is probably a waste, so those of you pushing over that have every right to feel underwhelmed.
I’ve been loving a 125/125 split of test cyp and mast e the past couple months.
I’ve been loving a 125/125 split of test cyp and mast e the past couple months.
Morefyah
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Only 125mg a week of each.
Talk about underwhelming!
I will leave it at this. I get everyone has their theories. I just believe I can accomplish anything mast has to offer with a real strict diet. I would rather save the oil space that makes a big impact on my cycle.
I guess when you're already bad motherfucker, you don't need much more to take it to another level. I guess I'm lucky in that aspect...cheers!
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