Hello
Ive read through quite a lot of the forum and there is lots of good info.
Im 34 years old.
I have low testosterone, low free testosterone and suffer from low testosterone symptoms.
Noticeably over the past few years my libido has dramatically declined, amount of actual fluid ejaculated is a lot less, morning wood has declined dramatically (i used to wake up most mornings with wood), energy levels declined dramatically, loss of lean muscle mass, hard to gain lean muscle, more easy to gain fat.
I am right on the borderline in the UK to get testosterone replacement therapy. My total level is just above the bornerline, however my free testosterone is below and so i could probably push to go onto TRT.
However before i go down that route and end up on it for life, id rather see if i can have a go at boosting my testosterone back up into a better range. Afterall from what i can see having a try before jumping into TRT isnt going to do any harm and can only offer possible benefits.
I do have some previous steroid use, although light use, and did do some sort of PCT however nothing like the pct protocols i see used now by Dr Scally and other similar protocols. Most of the advice was old school gym advice which is very outdated.
1st steroid cycle was in about 2002 and was a badly advised dbol only. I tool all dbol tabs in the morning (not knowing better). Week 1 10mg/day, week 2 20mg/day, week 3 30mg/day, week 4-5 40mg/day, week 6 30mg/day, week 7 20mg/day, week 8 10mg/day. No PCT.
I gained some water and strength and probably lost most of it PCT.
My testicles definately shrunk a lot and probably never came back upto size properly.
Results were poor and it was a disappointing cycle.
2nd cycle was maybe 4-6 months later? it was 250mg Sust and 200mg Deca every 5 days for 8 or 10 weeks. I gained some muscle, strength and water. Acne was a big issue and i developed bad acne on my shoulders, back and jaw line. I dont think any PCT was done however if it was it was clomid only run at 300mg day 1, 100mg for week 1 and 50mg for week 2.
My testicles definately shrunk a lot again and probably never came back upto size properly?
3rd cycle was probably 6 months+ later? this was Test Prop only at 100mg EOD for 8 weeks. I gained some muscle, strength and water. Acne got worse. I think PCT was run this time which was clomid 300mg day 1, 100mg week 1 and 50mg week 2.
My testicles definately shrunk a lot again and probably never came back upto size properly?
I ended up getting a course of accutane from the docs and ran this for around 6-10 months at a low dose to clear up all my acne.
4th cycle was around 6 months+ later and was 2 weeks only after reading up on the internet on 2 week cycles. I did Test prop at around 600mg per week and winstrol at 50mg per day. PCT was done as above with clomid only and possibly tamoxifen at 40mg for week 1 and 20mg for week 2.
5th and final cycle was done at the start of 2010. This was another 2 (or maybe 3 or 4) week cycle of Tren Ace 75mg EOD and Anavar 40mg per day. PCT was done as above with clomid and nolvadex.
I havent touched any steroids since then. I dieted down to below 10% bodyfat at the end of 2010 and I have stayed around or below 10% and natural since.
My testicles probably never fully recovered however its been such a long time that i cant really remember if they are the same size or a bit smaller?
Id like to know proples advice on trying a form of Dr Scallys PCT protocl even though I haven been off steroids for 5 years. I cant see it doing any harm and id think it was a good idea before persuing the possibility of going on TRT for life, or even using an AI or HCG monotherapy.
I dont really know what dosages and time frame should be used because the protocols are for people coming straight off a cycle when they are properly shut down. If i use the normal protocol then it may be too much for me?
Id assume this protocol is way too much?
Days 1-20 HCG 2000IU EOD.
Days 1-30 100mg clomid.
Days 1-45 40mg Tamoxifen.
AI like aromasin, femera or arimidex to be used throughout?
Here are my lab results:
(i never had any blood work done before these)
august 2014
serum testosterone: 13 nmol/L (8.7 - 29.00 nmol/L)
August 2015:
Serum SHBG 64 nmol/L (13-71)
Serum testosterone 16.8nmol/L (8.7-29)
FSH.LH:
FSH 1.8 u/L (1-10)
LH 1.5 u/L (1-9)
Serum albumin 42 g/L (35-50)
Serum TSH 1.94 mu/L (0.40-5.00)
Serum free T4 level 13.1 pmol/L (9.0 - 19.0)
Serum free T3 level 2.89 pmol/L (2.60 - 5.70)
September 2015
Serum TSH 1.7 nmol/L (0.40-5.00)
Serum free T3 level 4 pmol/L (2.6-5.7)
Serum free T4 Level 13.4 (9.0-19.0)
Serum parathyroid hormone 2.8 pmol/L (1.2-6.9)
Serum Oestradiol level 52 pmol/L (40-161)
Serum testosterone 15.6 nmol/L (8.7-29) (this is the same as 450 ng/dl)
Serum sex hormone binding glob 65 nmo/L (13-71)
Serum IGF 1 level 153ug/L (77.00-250.00)
I would appreciate advice on this
Thanks
Ive read through quite a lot of the forum and there is lots of good info.
Im 34 years old.
I have low testosterone, low free testosterone and suffer from low testosterone symptoms.
Noticeably over the past few years my libido has dramatically declined, amount of actual fluid ejaculated is a lot less, morning wood has declined dramatically (i used to wake up most mornings with wood), energy levels declined dramatically, loss of lean muscle mass, hard to gain lean muscle, more easy to gain fat.
I am right on the borderline in the UK to get testosterone replacement therapy. My total level is just above the bornerline, however my free testosterone is below and so i could probably push to go onto TRT.
However before i go down that route and end up on it for life, id rather see if i can have a go at boosting my testosterone back up into a better range. Afterall from what i can see having a try before jumping into TRT isnt going to do any harm and can only offer possible benefits.
I do have some previous steroid use, although light use, and did do some sort of PCT however nothing like the pct protocols i see used now by Dr Scally and other similar protocols. Most of the advice was old school gym advice which is very outdated.
1st steroid cycle was in about 2002 and was a badly advised dbol only. I tool all dbol tabs in the morning (not knowing better). Week 1 10mg/day, week 2 20mg/day, week 3 30mg/day, week 4-5 40mg/day, week 6 30mg/day, week 7 20mg/day, week 8 10mg/day. No PCT.
I gained some water and strength and probably lost most of it PCT.
My testicles definately shrunk a lot and probably never came back upto size properly.
Results were poor and it was a disappointing cycle.
2nd cycle was maybe 4-6 months later? it was 250mg Sust and 200mg Deca every 5 days for 8 or 10 weeks. I gained some muscle, strength and water. Acne was a big issue and i developed bad acne on my shoulders, back and jaw line. I dont think any PCT was done however if it was it was clomid only run at 300mg day 1, 100mg for week 1 and 50mg for week 2.
My testicles definately shrunk a lot again and probably never came back upto size properly?
3rd cycle was probably 6 months+ later? this was Test Prop only at 100mg EOD for 8 weeks. I gained some muscle, strength and water. Acne got worse. I think PCT was run this time which was clomid 300mg day 1, 100mg week 1 and 50mg week 2.
My testicles definately shrunk a lot again and probably never came back upto size properly?
I ended up getting a course of accutane from the docs and ran this for around 6-10 months at a low dose to clear up all my acne.
4th cycle was around 6 months+ later and was 2 weeks only after reading up on the internet on 2 week cycles. I did Test prop at around 600mg per week and winstrol at 50mg per day. PCT was done as above with clomid only and possibly tamoxifen at 40mg for week 1 and 20mg for week 2.
5th and final cycle was done at the start of 2010. This was another 2 (or maybe 3 or 4) week cycle of Tren Ace 75mg EOD and Anavar 40mg per day. PCT was done as above with clomid and nolvadex.
I havent touched any steroids since then. I dieted down to below 10% bodyfat at the end of 2010 and I have stayed around or below 10% and natural since.
My testicles probably never fully recovered however its been such a long time that i cant really remember if they are the same size or a bit smaller?
Id like to know proples advice on trying a form of Dr Scallys PCT protocl even though I haven been off steroids for 5 years. I cant see it doing any harm and id think it was a good idea before persuing the possibility of going on TRT for life, or even using an AI or HCG monotherapy.
I dont really know what dosages and time frame should be used because the protocols are for people coming straight off a cycle when they are properly shut down. If i use the normal protocol then it may be too much for me?
Id assume this protocol is way too much?
Days 1-20 HCG 2000IU EOD.
Days 1-30 100mg clomid.
Days 1-45 40mg Tamoxifen.
AI like aromasin, femera or arimidex to be used throughout?
Here are my lab results:
(i never had any blood work done before these)
august 2014
serum testosterone: 13 nmol/L (8.7 - 29.00 nmol/L)
August 2015:
Serum SHBG 64 nmol/L (13-71)
Serum testosterone 16.8nmol/L (8.7-29)
FSH.LH:
FSH 1.8 u/L (1-10)
LH 1.5 u/L (1-9)
Serum albumin 42 g/L (35-50)
Serum TSH 1.94 mu/L (0.40-5.00)
Serum free T4 level 13.1 pmol/L (9.0 - 19.0)
Serum free T3 level 2.89 pmol/L (2.60 - 5.70)
September 2015
Serum TSH 1.7 nmol/L (0.40-5.00)
Serum free T3 level 4 pmol/L (2.6-5.7)
Serum free T4 Level 13.4 (9.0-19.0)
Serum parathyroid hormone 2.8 pmol/L (1.2-6.9)
Serum Oestradiol level 52 pmol/L (40-161)
Serum testosterone 15.6 nmol/L (8.7-29) (this is the same as 450 ng/dl)
Serum sex hormone binding glob 65 nmo/L (13-71)
Serum IGF 1 level 153ug/L (77.00-250.00)
I would appreciate advice on this
Thanks
