PCT to get balls back

[helpmebrahs]

Thinking about running hcg 250iu three times a week.

I read that HCG will cause estrogen to rise very fast and I'm hypersensitive to gynecomastia. Would armasin and nolva be safe bet to manage estrogen while on HCG? I'm thinking arimidex at 0.5mg once a week may be overkill and create crashed estrogen but for people who are sensitive and prone to estrogen side effects This might be the safest protocol when taking HCG. Armasin has androgenic steroid properties that may create worse side effects.

So I'm thinking HCG 250 IU three times for 2 weeks, Armasin 12.5 EOD, Nolva 10mgEOD, and Arimidex 0.5 once a week.

Maybe follow that up with Clomid/Nolva or save the armasin for nolvadex pct to stop the estrogen rebound. Just looking for the best PCT protocol to get atrophied testes back to normal size.

 

[TX_Hempknight]

are you still on cycle?

 

[helpmebrahs]

No I have been shutdown and atrophied for some time. Ellagic acid with Eucheuma Cottoni might be a option too

 

[Sven_Northman]

No I have been shutdown and atrophied for some time. Ellagic acid with Eucheuma Cottoni might be a option too

How long ago did your cycle end?
What did you run?
What was your PCT with dosages?

I would just run another PCT. Sometimes that's all it takes.
1000iu of HCG every other day for 10 days. That's 5 doses of a 5000iu bottle.
Then run clomid/nolva. Up to you on milligrams. Maybe 100 clomid and 40 nolva for two weeks then drop to 50/20? Lots of ways to do it.

 

[eryximachus]

The HCG is to determine if you are primary or secondary. Run the hcg at 2500iu EOD for 20,000 total. Get labs. If test levels are normal, run Clomid.

Personally, I think long-term, low dose clomid is the ticket.

 

[tusoa]

I've just started HCG as well to restore the boys (500iu 3x/week). Been on TRT for a year at 200/week (pin twice a week). I'm hoping the size will come back within a few weeks, but what about the scrotum? It looks like I have an elbow where my sack used to be. What experience has anyone had time wise to have the balls swinging again.

 

[The Terminator]

I've just started HCG as well to restore the boys (500iu 3x/week). Been on TRT for a year at 200/week (pin twice a week). I'm hoping the size will come back within a few weeks, but what about the scrotum? It looks like I have an elbow where my sack used to be. What experience has anyone had time wise to have the balls swinging again.

What do you mean like your sack has fully disappeared as if you were castrated? I can’t say about any changes to the size of my actual testes, haven’t had an ultrasound measurement after getting on hCG but my balls or sack appear fuller. Before it looked like 2 rocks in a loose bag of skin, with hCG it looks like it’s been reinflated.

Never experienced any problems with balls never swinging low. On trt/cycle without hCG or with hCG , or pre trt if I was warm or not cold and relaxed they’d hang low, if I was cold or nervous/stressed or about to jizz they’d hang tight.

 

[helpmebrahs]

Hey terminator, my bio-father worked with bill paxton on the first film and was the third punk with jacket.

No comments on estrogen rising with HCG? The estrogen rising is my concern. Also, for people who are sensitive I'm worried HCG might shutdown the HPTA pre-maturaly in regards to the LH/Leydig cells

 

[The Terminator]

Hey terminator, my bio-father worked with bill paxton on the first film and was the third punk with jacket.

No comments on estrogen rising with HCG? The estrogen rising is my concern. Also, for people who are sensitive I'm worried HCG might shutdown the HPTA pre-maturaly in regards to the LH/Leydig cells

He was the guy smart enough not to mess with me and actually survived, that’s pretty cool..

Yes hCG will cause T and E to rise, and because of the rise in T and E it will cause suppression at the H & P. I would imagine recovery would be much easier with hCG than roids but I’m just guessing on that. Have you actually had your testicles measured and calculated volume pre/post or are you just guessing? Maybe get a full hormone panel and a seman analysis done to see if there are any issues, if you have pre-cycle hormones tested you’ll be able to compare.

 

[tusoa]

Alright, so a simpler question. For those of you who have used HCG to increase your testicle size, how long did it take before you started noticing them being fuller?

 

[eryximachus]

Forget HCG. Use it only to test if you're primary. If yo got good test levels after 3 weeks, clomid will work.

6-12 months of clomid at 25mg per day.

Accept the fact you may have permanently fuckd up your endocrine system and TRT for life is your future.

I would also consider if you have addiction problems. A 4-year blast and cruise is CRAZY unless you are making millions of dollars from it.

Self examination here, or perhaps visiting an addiction counselor, is crucial.

this is especially true if you were partying all the time, doing blow, MDMA, etc.

 

[The Terminator]

Alright, so a simpler question. For those of you who have used HCG to increase your testicle size, how long did it take before you started noticing them being fuller?

If you’re talking about overall fullness of your sack should be fairly quick, if I remember correctly a couple weeks but I was on trt for a year before I started,

 

[rpbb]

I've just started HCG as well to restore the boys (500iu 3x/week). Been on TRT for a year at 200/week (pin twice a week). I'm hoping the size will come back within a few weeks, but what about the scrotum? It looks like I have an elbow where my sack used to be. What experience has anyone had time wise to have the balls swinging again.

Twice a week is fine at that dose. My estrogen sides increase the more hcg I run. So i try to minimize it

 

[helpmebrahs]

Forget HCG. Use it only to test if you're primary. If yo got good test levels after 3 weeks, clomid will work.

6-12 months of clomid at 25mg per day.

Accept the fact you may have permanently fuckd up your endocrine system and TRT for life is your future.

I would also consider if you have addiction problems. A 4-year blast and cruise is CRAZY unless you are making millions of dollars from it.

Self examination here, or perhaps visiting an addiction counselor, is crucial.

this is especially true if you were partying all the time, doing blow, MDMA, etc.

Is this directed towards me? I'm confused

 

[helpmebrahs]

Is this directed towards me? I'm confused

This must be to a different post on here about a guy blasting and cruising for 4 years not me.

Yea, low dose clomid at 25mg does sound legit though

 

[helpmebrahs]

Is there any difference between AstraZeneca Nolvadex and generic Tamoxifen?

 

[Meecedes.1965]

This must be to a different post on here about a guy blasting and cruising for 4 years not me.

Yeah I think he may be referring to that guy that started at 17(?) and B/C to about 21 years old. Came to this forum at around 25 years old and started bitching at everyone because he refused to find a doctor that worked with him, and didn't like that no one was 'on his side' I guess with his pity party.

 

[Calicom]

HCG did well for me on my Tren A cycle 500ui a week on cycle. PCT hit up to 1000iu a week + nolva20 Clom50.... HCG filled the testies in two weeks of my PCT. bloods showed 506ng of test in 4 weeks.

 

[helpmebrahs]

Took first shot of HCG. I felt I was being punched in the balls for about 10 minutes! Anybody know the sides of HCG to know if its working?

 

[Calicom]

Yup that's a indication. If need be very the stuff is good use a pregnancy test. Honestly I believe you should be ok at 1000iu a week I here anything over that will desens LH but ahh... fucking bro science

Took first shot of HCG. I felt I was being punched in the balls for about 10 minutes! Anybody know the sides of HCG to know if its working?