Pharmacom/Basic sold bunk/underdosed products for all orders MAY and JUNE

That's not what you said in your post

I reread my post and yes I made a mistake.... It's late.... I ment unlike meso we get respect on our other boards.. Reps are there to look after the members..(meaning reps are aloud on those type of boards and not on meso) ... We were forced to be here on meso.. Before being called out and given a title, I came here to get away, now I come here ready for battle with every post I make...
 
Well I'm not gonna battle with you... I've made it clear on my feelings and I stand by it.... how you guys are "forced" to be here is beyond me and the first I've ever heard of it.... probably has everything to do with why you guys feel so entitled here to be the way you guys are... no other source would get by with the same stuff... I'm not siding with the op here either... he has no proof with test or blood work to support his claim so he has no argument to make but on the other hand, that doesn't mean he wasn't screwed over either.... do I feel he's wasting his time, I sure do and does it get old seeing his shit plastered everywhere, sure does but maybe he's trying to do his part in harm reduction in his mind as well, dunno. So as you say, you guys are forced to be here and you guys will continue to ass rape folks with your prices and not miss a thing so just click that little ignore button function and carry on doing business as normal.... problem solved
 
Did I ever say he should be happy... No I said I would be happy...
@Dema if you'd like to play semantics and.or implied intent with written words, you may want to choose a different opponent.
Your user name has "Pharmacom "Rep"" under it...no?
Rep is short for representative...no?
So MESO members can assume that you represent Pharmacom...no?
Pharmacom and MESO are two separate entities.
There is no grey area.
First and foremost, and don't get butt hurt (I'm just being honest), your UGL Rep status excludes you from being a member here and especially under the pretense of "you guys forget, I'm just another MESO juice head "
No, no you're not.
I do believe that you're a juice head, however you do not represent MESO, you represent Pharmacom.

Likewise, on MESO, anything and everything you post comes from Pharmacom....it says so right under your screen name.
So when it comes to bloods, Pharmacom and or Pharmacom reps can't represent what MESO member should or shouldn't be happy with, IF Pharmacom and their Reps don't acknowledge blood work as a method of customer satisfaction.
So would Pharmacom like to start accepting blood work as customer satisfaction, or would you like to shut up about what blood work a Pharmacom rep would be happy with while running Pharmacom gear?
 
I buy from all sorts of sources, both domestic and international. I have been running Pharmacom off and on for years and have never had issues with them. It's funny to me that everyone who offers a differing opinion and/or experience from your own you automatically label a shill. It's quite entertaining really.

I don't care if they accept bloodwork as proof or not. The blood work you do should be for your own analysis, and for putting up some type of backing for your claims on the forum. Did you take bloods before cycle? Did you take them during? From what I can tell, you have not, and you always beat around the bush about it when someone addresses the issue to you.
Like u i have used a bunch of ugl gear both international and domestic.
Ive ordered around 10 times from Franks domestic stock...mostly 1 or two vials of test e or dbol pills....with one recent exception of a pack of dbol i have no complaints about their service or products personally.
The dbol issue could also have been due to my schedule/ stress level and diet at the time not being conducive to gains.
So overall...if i needed something in a couple days and didnt mind paying through the nose...i would order again tomorrow.
 
Here is the thread if interested. These guys should have known better than to scam meso members.

Code:
http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/topic/291645-pharmacom-good-or-bad/

Apparently someone else got a vial with mold

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That shit is crashed...its not mold.
I got a couple like that late last year.
Warmed up the bottles and it was fine.
At least post pics of real problems.
 
Like u i have used a bunch of ugl gear both international and domestic.
Ive ordered around 10 times from Franks domestic stock...mostly 1 or two vials of test e or dbol pills....with one recent exception of a pack of dbol i have no complaints about their service or products personally.
The dbol issue could also have been due to my schedule/ stress level and diet at the time not being conducive to gains.
So overall...if i needed something in a couple days and didnt mind paying through the nose...i would order again tomorrow.
And that is fair... I get it... you make your money and are completely free to spend it as you see fit.... just a damn shame that a place with the customer base that they have takes full advantage of it by jacking the damn prices as high as they do... I personally find it insulting... I have zero problem with a business making a buck... you've got to in order to stay in business but damn if you have to make it all on me and then pad your pockets even deeper with every other order made...
 
How entertaining.

There were guys over on SST who did a great job on compiling lot of of bloodwork and established the relationship between the dose / blood results. Checking it out might be of interest.
 
Once again - real facts ?
Why do we sell with promo ? First - promo we have only for INT section. Second - because we have a big production resources and for us better to sell with promo than our equipment will be idle.
And they only have about 6 bucks a vial stuck into making test.
It doesnt cost em anything to do a promo but it keeps guys coming back.
 
I reread my post and yes I made a mistake.... It's late.... I ment unlike meso we get respect on our other boards.. Reps are there to look after the members..(meaning reps are aloud on those type of boards and not on meso) ... We were forced to be here on meso.. Before being called out and given a title, I came here to get away, now I come here ready for battle with every post I make...
That's the shit with MESO, you say what you feel at the time and you have 15 min to change it or delete it.
Then, on MESO, after 15 min, it's on the internet forever.......in your case, it represent you and Pharmacom forever.
I've had my own spats with the OP regarding his irrational, unsubstantiated, lack of personal analytical data.
But you need to understand, and it's the only reason I called you out:
With "rep" under your name, when you offer what you would be satisfied with on bloods, some members will hear what "Pharmacom" would be satisfied with on bloods......only problem with that is:
Pharmacom doesn't acknowledge bloods....nor should you reference them "personally" .
Because it stopped being your personal point of view when you wrote Rep under your name.....not a snark, just the truth.
 
@stayinalive

You should research bloods a little more if you want to base arguments off of them.

700ng/dl a week after pinning 200mg of test e is pretty normal.

Find some other bloods to use as part of the complaint.
 
@stayinalive

You should research bloods a little more if you want to base arguments off of them.

700ng/dl a week after pinning 200mg of test e is pretty normal.

Find some other bloods to use as part of the complaint.

here is a study showing the levels 1 weeks after pin. http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/ajpendo/281/6/E1172.full.pdf

700ng is just a little low. I would have expected to see 850ng +/- 75ng off of 200 mg a week.
looks like 4.x the weekly dose gives us a ballpark number for nadir level at a week.
 
@stayinalive

You should research bloods a little more if you want to base arguments off of them.

700ng/dl a week after pinning 200mg of test e is pretty normal.

Find some other bloods to use as part of the complaint.

These were the only questionable bloods I have posted.I actually pulled them out of this thread Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store . Other bloods are 600mg weekly at 1000ng/dl.

Point is that these guys right now THINK that they OWN meso. They do NOT follow the protocol that other labs go through. Imagine another lab pulling the shit these guys are pulling. No one here would tolerate it.

Why are people stupid enough to buy from them? Because what once was a forum used to PROTECT the user,now is FILLED with "members" who no one knows if they are shills or normal members. To me it is a big problem watching how much CLOUT pharmacom has over meso. It isn't just meso though,those guys literally BOUGHT out almost every single source forum. They give the forum owners 1-2k USD a month to look the other way.

Pharmacom/Basic has stolen over 100,000 USD since they have become sponsors here. Pharmacom gets away with low blood work. Would any of the other sources here get away with low bloodwork


I could have gotten bloodwork from Vladamir Putin himself and these guys would still be saying it's fake.

Now not everyone that reps pharmacom is a shill.

On one hand we have the shills. These are people that are paid/compensated to rep the brand NO MATTER WHAT and to try to win arguments with smarter members to avoid the upper ups the hassle.

Two are individuals that bought fake gear but are in DEEP denial about losing 4000$ usd +

Then there are noobs that can't tell the difference physically between 700 ng/dl of testosterone and 7,000ng/dl of testosterone.

It is too much to handle.Worse part about it is that every single forum maybe except ology reps for this guys. OLOGY sells their own shitty brand and they remove/delete low blood works faster than a nascar.


If all was fair here basic would be told to either reimburse the customers or lose their privilege to source here. Every other source would have been canned,I can tell you that much.
 
More Pharmacom: Test E

Over on this thread they manipulated a guy into sending a PRE PICKED jar of testosterone. Let me explain something really quickly,this guy say simec proves it all. Simec at MOST proves that the 1 vial they sent is g2g. It does NOT prove that ALL vials are g2g.

Secondly,Basic/pharmacom @Pharmacom Helper want to prove that because the cheese from July is bacteria free that must mean that the cheese manufactured in may/june MUST also be salmonella free.

They are taking advantage of peoples stupidity essentially. How convenient,send one vial over and that proves EVERY vial is g2g.

Also what is up with them giving out credit to people that donate to anabolic labs? Is that some sort of bribe to get themselves off the hook from this mess????

Something very fishy is going on here.....
 
That shit is crashed...its not mold.
I got a couple like that late last year.
Warmed up the bottles and it was fine.
At least post pics of real problems.
I've seen slot of crashed vials in my day but this looks like straight mold. I've had vials crash hard and barley at all and never have they looked like that.
 
@OmegaPharma I invite everyone to read his thread. The guy is another scamming swine don't get me wrong. @OmegaPharma scammed around 3000USD lotta money right???? He is being kicked off of meso,vanished,poof,gone. @Pharmacom Helper has scammed over 100,000k in less than a year off meso ALONE. Do you guys really think he gives away "free promotions" "free products" LOL he probably sends bunk free items since he knows you are gonna run it all together. How is it he can afford to send "free products" but he cannot reimburse anyone here? Guy is a FRAUD.

We kick out the junior penises for one mistake but the big dogs get away with Grand Larceny. It makes no sense to me why we have a double standard for pharmacom.
 
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