Pharmacom/Basic sold bunk/underdosed products for all orders MAY and JUNE

[stayinalive]

I remember this. I pmed the dude and told him not.to pin it. It wasn't crashing. It was mold from bacteria.

People spend money and they go into denial. They will refuse to believe they were sold bunk/underdosed/contaminated gear. It's like when you try to tell certain guys their girl cheated on them and they get mad at you for communicating that to them. Some people are soft man....

 

[Pharmacom Helper]

I tried reasoning with them to no avail. They have too many shills here and too many connections for anything to be done about it.I am upset that this many people have been allowed to be scammed with ZERO repercussions for the source. I understand in the past pharma/basic have produced adequately dosed product but after reading through pages on pages of basics thread,it seems most people are getting ignored or called liars. I have taken an inordinate amount of abuse for trying to stop these guys from taking advantage of other members on here to no avail. We even had a member here post on a different forum that he knew pharma was doing shady business.

Here are some links of the situation either getting blamed onto the consumer or the victim themselves getting hammered. I don't care if I get insulted but the truth needs to come out. These guys are as dishonest as they get and if you take the time to read how their pharma representatives treat customers,it is extremely unprofessional to say the least.

If you were sold bunk/underdosed please have the courage to come forward. Basic/Pharma need to be held to the same standard as everyone else even if that means refunding the affected members.

I DO NOT WANT ANY COMPENSATION

What I do demand is that EVERY customer that got underdosed gear gets either a replacement or a refund. It is ridiculous that we are letting this one slide.

Is sponsorship money/free gear really worth compromising the integrity of a community that is over 15 years old?

Please read through the thread before coming to any conclusion yourself. If you skip reading you are cheating yourself of forming a solid opinion.

These are some threads filled with users that were sold garbage/bunk test:

More Pharmacom: Test E
Pharmacomstore 6 week labs
Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store
Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store
Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store
Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store
Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store
Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store

Potential:Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store
@DannyP @JayWaWa @Fungi @ZDogg

On this thread @Pharmacom Helper offered to send one of these 3 people a vial of test E so that we could send out for testing: Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store

I will quote exactly what he said in that thread:

"Hm, I have an idea how we can try to find the truth
@stayinalive
@dmgkm
@Bradac2411

Please provide me pictures of your underdosed vials (batch NR, exp.date) if it will be the same for all, we can try to find same date/batch and then send 1 vial to one of you and you will send vial to the Simec (we cover all costs). We can send directly but for most of users it will be not acceptable
That's the way to confirm the problem with testE"

See the problem with this @Pharmacom Helper is that you want to use a vial of your choice. Just because your vial is good doesn't mean that our vials were good.Frank essentially tried to trick us in order to weasel his way out of the beef.Intelligent people realize this doesn't prove anything. In fact it is fairly obvious that something is going on when so many members are complaining at about the same time. Problem is that everyone is afraid to say something because they don't want to be harassed as I was.

Here is where it gets even more icky. @IronJulius had the wonderful idea of posting PRIVATE MESSAGES between us. I noticed he forgot to leave one important part out.

Here is the thread:

Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store

In this thread you can click my pictures and you will see that Julius subconsciously admits to there being bunk gear.

He says word for word "So how many got bunk gear"

He isn't DENYING there is bunk gear.

He isn't SURPRISED there is bunk gear.

He knows something is up but has no idea how to handle the situation since he really has no idea what went down. People got bunk/underdosed gear and the one that is taking the beating is the consumer.

If they are so honest and upstanding why are they ignoring all the members that got sent bad gear? This is not acceptable from anyone on here.

Anyways I am willing to answer any questions regarding the situation with these guys. They simply do not want to own up to the fact that they may have produced a bad batch,or that they have been selectively scamming members for god knows how long.

It isn't right that these guys get away with stealing thousands of dollars off the meso members back.

Wow, thank you for this looooong post.
Ok, if you think that we have "box with good" and "box with bad" products. You can order by yourself. How ? You can use different account, you can use different name/address/payment way. You can ask your friend to buy something. You may order 1 vial of test, or make a big order. You can buy within 2 hours or 2 monthes. Don't give us a chance to send you vial from "bad box".

Then send it to Simec. And if it's bunk - we wil cover ALL expenses

 

[stayinalive]

Wow, thank you for this looooong post.
Ok, if you think that we have "box with good" and "box with bad" products. You can order by yourself. How ? You can use different account, you can use different name/address/payment way. You can ask your friend to buy something. You may order 1 vial of test, or make a big order. You can buy within 2 hours or 2 monthes. Don't give us a chance to send you vial from "bad box".

Then send it to Simec. And if it's bunk - we wil cover ALL expenses

I am not stupid @Pharmacom Helper you guys sent an order out to temporarily stop sending bunk gear. Order by myself? I am not giving you any more of my money that is crazy. Simec cost 600$ to test and that STILL does NOT prove you sent out a bad batch of gear in May or June.

Imagine a lawsuit for food poisoning from cheese. The cheese bought in may/june has salmonella(food poisoning). You own the cheese company. You want to prove that the cheese bought in may/june is FREE of salmonella by sending cheese that was manufactured in july. How does that prove the cheese manufactured in may/june is bacteria free?

How about you reimburse everyone you scammed? Actually why don't you just accept responsibility at the minimum?

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Mistersupergod you are a computer nerd that stuck a needle in his ass and now you think you are superman. I know your bitch ass posts on gaming forums so you better tone it down Urkel.

So, in other words, you have fuck all for proof regarding your claims of bunk gear.

i will reiterate.
There's no fucking way you are over the age of 21 and/or mommy and daddy have been spoon feeding you all of your life.

 

[Pharmacom Helper]

I am not stupid @Pharmacom Helper you guys sent an order out to temporarily stop sending bunk gear. Order by myself? I am not giving you any more of my money that is crazy. Simec cost 600$ to test and that STILL does NOT prove you sent out a bad batch of gear in May or June.

Imagine a lawsuit for food poisoning from cheese. The cheese bought in may/june has salmonella(food poisoning). You own the cheese company. You want to prove that the cheese bought in may/june is FREE of salmonella by sending cheese that was manufactured in july. How does that prove the cheese manufactured in may/june is bacteria free?

How about you reimburse everyone you scammed? Actually why don't you just accept responsibility at the minimum?

Do someone did a real test ? I remember only 1 member, who sent vial to the Simec due to "mold" issue and nothing. Thanks him.
Also we did a few reships of product with some contamination inside (unopened vial, who will use gear with mold/floaters ?!) or with bad exp. date

 

[stayinalive]

So, in other words, you have fuck all for proof regarding your claims of bunk gear.

i will reiterate.
There's no fucking way you are over the age of 21 and/or mommy and daddy have been spoon feeding you all of your life.

Mommy and daddy spoon feeding me? Go back to gamefaqs mistersupergod. Seriously everyone here google mistersupergod he used to be a huge nerd and now he pinned some oil and thinks hes a tough guy. Everyone seriously google him you will have a huge laugh.

Let the grown ups speak. Me and @Pharmacom Helper are having a discussion don't be disrespectful.

 

[stayinalive]

Do someone did a real test ? I remember only 1 member, who sent vial to the Simec due to "mold" issue and nothing. Thanks him.
Also we did a few reships of product with some contamination inside (unopened vial, who will use gear with mold/floaters ?!) or with bad exp. date

What are you guys doing giving out "free gear" if people that payed hard earned money got bunk gear. Is that what the deal is on the "free promotion" You assume everyone will use it and you really sell them the same amount of MG in twice the amount of oil. Something here isn't right. Why don't you do the right thing right now and reimburse the members you fucked over.

If you are going to sell bunk gear do it elsewhere,meso members deserve better than that @Pharmacom Helper @Darius PharmacomStore . We have zero tolerance to that sly guy bullshit here.

 

[Pharmacom Helper]

What are you guys doing giving out "free gear" if people that payed hard earned money got bunk gear. Is that what the deal is on the "free promotion" You assume everyone will use it and you really sell them the same amount of MG in twice the amount of oil. Something here isn't right. Why don't you do the right thing right now and reimburse the members you fucked over.

If you are going to sell bunk gear do it elsewhere,meso members deserve better than that @Pharmacom Helper @Darius PharmacomStore . We have zero tolerance to that sly guy bullshit here.

Once again - real facts ?
Why do we sell with promo ? First - promo we have only for INT section. Second - because we have a big production resources and for us better to sell with promo than our equipment will be idle.

 

[phil mcgroin]

If I was looking at buying gear from an International source those bloods would be enough to keep me away.

I think @stayinalive has good intentions, just getting himself a little worked up.

I completely agree staying is telling the truth nobody else would bother or get that worked up.something is going on at pharmacon and they should be bending over backwards to make it write.either the people replying are shills or just the new breed of kids using juice but aren't bodybuilders and grew up thinking me,me,me and don't realize this does effect them.something is just starting to change in this business but I've seen a few good labs screwing customers lately and not making it right but instead tell the customer to fuck off.

 

[stayinalive]

Once again - real facts ?
Why do we sell with promo ? First - promo we have only on INT store. Second - because we have a big production resources and for us better to sell with promo than our equipment will be idle

I showed you real facts. Did you not read the thread? Facts are that you are trying to weasel your way out of reimbursing members. No more promotional offers Frank,reimburse everyone first before anymore of your promotional offers. Lots of people have complained about your shitty bunk crap.

You scammed someones sick father

https://www.isarms.com/forums/source-talk/us-basicstero-look-out-4896.html

The complaints are piling up. Reimburse the people you screwed over here on MESO and put this to rest. You cannot be stealing from our members like this @Pharmacom Helper

 

[Pharmacom Helper]

I showed you real facts. Did you not read the thread? Facts are that you are trying to weasel your way out of reimbursing members. No more promotional offers Frank,reimburse everyone first before anymore of your promotional offers. Lots of people have complained about your shitty bunk crap.

You scammed someones sick father

https://www.isarms.com/forums/source-talk/us-basicstero-look-out-4896.html

The complaints are piling up. Reimburse the people you screwed over here on MESO and put this to rest. You cannot be stealing from our members like this @Pharmacom Helper

So much proofs in this thread: blood results, pictures with fake code.
Once again, we work only with facts, not with imagination. If you have some contamintaion inside the vial - please do not use, we replace. If you have bad exp.date - we replace. If you have "bad blood" and you really want to telling the truth - please send vial to the Simce and if it's bunk - we cover all expenses

 

[stayinalive]

So much proofs in this thread: blood results, pictures with fake code.
Once again, we work only with facts, not with imagination. If you have some contamintaion inside the vial - please do not use, we replace. If you have bad exp.date - we replace. If you have "bad blood" and you really want to telling the truth - please send vial to the Simce and if it's bunk - we cover all expenses

I can't send a vial because I already opened them. I know for a fact that your gear is a bunk garbage,Ive used alot of brands before and this is trash. You guys sent me a good first batch how convenient. You send a good order first and the next orders are bunk. People are not stupid here. You are caught red handed scamming members and you will either make it right or you can forget about your credibility here on meso. You are saying all the members that complained have imagination??? I will keep posting more threads of people you have scammed. Making things right with the people you scammed on meso is your only option. You aren't going to lie your way out of this.

You tried to lie to us telling us to take pictures of our vials to see if they all came from the same batch number. You have stated previously that the batch numbers are FAKE and just there for design. Why are you trying to lie your way out of this @Pharmacom Helper?

You are only hurting your own company and you don't even see it.

 

[DannyP]

I tried reasoning with them to no avail. They have too many shills here and too many connections for anything to be done about it.I am upset that this many people have been allowed to be scammed with ZERO repercussions for the source. I understand in the past pharma/basic have produced adequately dosed product but after reading through pages on pages of basics thread,it seems most people are getting ignored or called liars. I have taken an inordinate amount of abuse for trying to stop these guys from taking advantage of other members on here to no avail. We even had a member here post on a different forum that he knew pharma was doing shady business.

Here are some links of the situation either getting blamed onto the consumer or the victim themselves getting hammered. I don't care if I get insulted but the truth needs to come out. These guys are as dishonest as they get and if you take the time to read how their pharma representatives treat customers,it is extremely unprofessional to say the least.

If you were sold bunk/underdosed please have the courage to come forward. Basic/Pharma need to be held to the same standard as everyone else even if that means refunding the affected members.

I DO NOT WANT ANY COMPENSATION

What I do demand is that EVERY customer that got underdosed gear gets either a replacement or a refund. It is ridiculous that we are letting this one slide.

Is sponsorship money/free gear really worth compromising the integrity of a community that is over 15 years old?

Please read through the thread before coming to any conclusion yourself. If you skip reading you are cheating yourself of forming a solid opinion.

These are some threads filled with users that were sold garbage/bunk test:

More Pharmacom: Test E
Pharmacomstore 6 week labs
Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store
Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store
Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store
Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store
Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store
Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store

Potential:Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store
@DannyP @JayWaWa @Fungi @ZDogg

On this thread @Pharmacom Helper offered to send one of these 3 people a vial of test E so that we could send out for testing: Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store

I will quote exactly what he said in that thread:

"Hm, I have an idea how we can try to find the truth
@stayinalive
@dmgkm
@Bradac2411

Please provide me pictures of your underdosed vials (batch NR, exp.date) if it will be the same for all, we can try to find same date/batch and then send 1 vial to one of you and you will send vial to the Simec (we cover all costs). We can send directly but for most of users it will be not acceptable
That's the way to confirm the problem with testE"

See the problem with this @Pharmacom Helper is that you want to use a vial of your choice. Just because your vial is good doesn't mean that our vials were good.Frank essentially tried to trick us in order to weasel his way out of the beef.Intelligent people realize this doesn't prove anything. In fact it is fairly obvious that something is going on when so many members are complaining at about the same time. Problem is that everyone is afraid to say something because they don't want to be harassed as I was.

Here is where it gets even more icky. @IronJulius had the wonderful idea of posting PRIVATE MESSAGES between us. I noticed he forgot to leave one important part out.

Here is the thread:

Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store

In this thread you can click my pictures and you will see that Julius subconsciously admits to there being bunk gear.

He says word for word "So how many got bunk gear"

He isn't DENYING there is bunk gear.

He isn't SURPRISED there is bunk gear.

He knows something is up but has no idea how to handle the situation since he really has no idea what went down. People got bunk/underdosed gear and the one that is taking the beating is the consumer.

If they are so honest and upstanding why are they ignoring all the members that got sent bad gear? This is not acceptable from anyone on here.

Anyways I am willing to answer any questions regarding the situation with these guys. They simply do not want to own up to the fact that they may have produced a bad batch,or that they have been selectively scamming members for god knows how long.

It isn't right that these guys get away with stealing thousands of dollars off the meso members back.

I tried reasoning with them to no avail. They have too many shills here and too many connections for anything to be done about it.I am upset that this many people have been allowed to be scammed with ZERO repercussions for the source. I understand in the past pharma/basic have produced adequately dosed product but after reading through pages on pages of basics thread,it seems most people are getting ignored or called liars. I have taken an inordinate amount of abuse for trying to stop these guys from taking advantage of other members on here to no avail. We even had a member here post on a different forum that he knew pharma was doing shady business.

Here are some links of the situation either getting blamed onto the consumer or the victim themselves getting hammered. I don't care if I get insulted but the truth needs to come out. These guys are as dishonest as they get and if you take the time to read how their pharma representatives treat customers,it is extremely unprofessional to say the least.

If you were sold bunk/underdosed please have the courage to come forward. Basic/Pharma need to be held to the same standard as everyone else even if that means refunding the affected members.

I DO NOT WANT ANY COMPENSATION

What I do demand is that EVERY customer that got underdosed gear gets either a replacement or a refund. It is ridiculous that we are letting this one slide.

Is sponsorship money/free gear really worth compromising the integrity of a community that is over 15 years old?

Please read through the thread before coming to any conclusion yourself. If you skip reading you are cheating yourself of forming a solid opinion.

These are some threads filled with users that were sold garbage/bunk test:

More Pharmacom: Test E
Pharmacomstore 6 week labs
Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store
Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store
Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store
Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store
Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store
Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store

Potential:Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store
@DannyP @JayWaWa @Fungi @ZDogg

On this thread @Pharmacom Helper offered to send one of these 3 people a vial of test E so that we could send out for testing: Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store

I will quote exactly what he said in that thread:

"Hm, I have an idea how we can try to find the truth
@stayinalive
@dmgkm
@Bradac2411

Please provide me pictures of your underdosed vials (batch NR, exp.date) if it will be the same for all, we can try to find same date/batch and then send 1 vial to one of you and you will send vial to the Simec (we cover all costs). We can send directly but for most of users it will be not acceptable
That's the way to confirm the problem with testE"

See the problem with this @Pharmacom Helper is that you want to use a vial of your choice. Just because your vial is good doesn't mean that our vials were good.Frank essentially tried to trick us in order to weasel his way out of the beef.Intelligent people realize this doesn't prove anything. In fact it is fairly obvious that something is going on when so many members are complaining at about the same time. Problem is that everyone is afraid to say something because they don't want to be harassed as I was.

Here is where it gets even more icky. @IronJulius had the wonderful idea of posting PRIVATE MESSAGES between us. I noticed he forgot to leave one important part out.

Here is the thread:

Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store

In this thread you can click my pictures and you will see that Julius subconsciously admits to there being bunk gear.

He says word for word "So how many got bunk gear"

He isn't DENYING there is bunk gear.

He isn't SURPRISED there is bunk gear.

He knows something is up but has no idea how to handle the situation since he really has no idea what went down. People got bunk/underdosed gear and the one that is taking the beating is the consumer.

If they are so honest and upstanding why are they ignoring all the members that got sent bad gear? This is not acceptable from anyone on here.

Anyways I am willing to answer any questions regarding the situation with these guys. They simply do not want to own up to the fact that they may have produced a bad batch,or that they have been selectively scamming members for god knows how long.

It isn't right that these guys get away with stealing thousands of dollars off the meso members back.

WTF dude. Really?
You say I'm a pharmacom rep when I had previously posted that I had,heard the Test E was underdosed and was going to get labs to disprove/prove it?

Check your facts douchebag.

 

[stayinalive]

WTF dude. Really?
You say I'm a pharmacom rep when I had previously posted that I had,heard the Test E was underdosed and was going to get labs to disprove/prove it?

Check your facts douchebag.

You were tagged as an example of someone that got sold bunk gear not as a shill. Relax.

 

[Dema]

You were tagged as an example of someone that got sold bunk gear not as a shill. Relax.

You are using him as an example?? He just said he HEARD!!! Heard there was Underdosed gear.... LMFAO.... Dude quit while you're 5.9 feet under already

 

[stayinalive]

You are using him as an example?? He just said he HEARD!!! Heard there was Underdosed gear.... LMFAO.... Dude quit while you're 5.9 feet under already

You must not have read the whole thread. There are more affected members than just him. I am not anything under,you guys chose to scam meso members and it is going to have financial consequences. Got to think things through next time. @Dema you think people take a shills opinion seriously? You literally have a pharmacom rep under your username. Come on now.

 

[Dema]

You must not have read the whole thread. There are more affected members than just him. I am not anything under,you guys chose to scam meso members and it is going to have financial consequences. Got to think things through next time. @Dema you think people take a shills opinion seriously? You literally have a pharmacom rep under your username. Come on now.

You say there are more affected members, be he isn't affected???

My word is much much stronger around the forums then yours will ever be.... Keep it going kid

 

[MindlessWork]

WTF dude. Really?
You say I'm a pharmacom rep when I had previously posted that I had,heard the Test E was underdosed and was going to get labs to disprove/prove it?

Check your facts douchebag.

Give up on this troll brother as he's just another internet loudmouth. If you don't feed it it will move on.

 

[stayinalive]

My word is much much stronger around the forums then yours will ever be.... Keep it going kid

Not Really your username says SHILL in big bold letters. You can't even speak english man.

@MindlessWork has a grudge against me because I made fun of his hairline.

He admits pharmacom is bunk.I can also post his PMs if you would like,the guy is holding a personal grudge at the forum members expense.

https://www.muscleandscience.com/threads/17568-Basicstero-has-gone-scammer%21%21%21?s=965addb7e65c34a2a361d606621929fe

https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=173150931

 

[MindlessWork]

Not Really your username says SHILL in big bold letters. You can't even speak english man.

@MindlessWork has a grudge against me because I made fun of his hairline.

He admits pharmacom is bunk.I can also post his PMs if you would like,the guy is holding a personal grudge at the forum members expense.

https://www.muscleandscience.com/threads/17568-Basicstero-has-gone-scammer%21%21%21?s=965addb7e65c34a2a361d606621929fe

https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=173150931

Cry me a river.