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[xgunx]

Where you pin does matter. It will affect the rate of metabolism and half life

Yes. But, to the degree that he is talking about? I doubt it.

 

[Sampei]

With a short ester like prop maybe it does, I have to test. Will get expensive lol

 

[ironwill1951]

the jury may still be out on pharmacom but as far as frank goes the jury is back and he has been found guilty of being a total idiot

 

[flenser]

It is. Not defending anyone here but we really went on a rampage after one blood without (until now) any baseline before of previously gear ran from that user.

I'm very eager to see blood coming from the others 3-4 ppl in this thread. I know that I mostly have a 4x increase in my TT when I draw blood, so if it happens for me it's good.

However I did always pin delts and then drawn blood and that could have skewed the results. I'm gonna Pin glutes for two days and then draw blood and see if something change

I still think that everything went south too early but at the same time I understand the rage and skepticism, especially after we read that shit coming from... EVO : / my eyes cry blood in reading that name

No, there were multiple labmax fails, multiple mass spec fails, and people taking 100mg of dbol daily with minimal sides. Many people have had poor results, and Frank has met each claim with denial and accusations. The people waiting for, hoping for, good bloods in the next few days are hopeless optimists.

 

[LifeSTRONG]

Where you pin does matter. It will affect the rate of metabolism and half life

I have read this, glutes have the best absorption rate with quads being second and delts being poor. If have to look this study up if I can find it.

Which I am not justifying anything on franks part btw.

 

[rpbb]

No, there were multiple labmax fails, multiple mass spec fails, and people taking 100mg of dbol daily with minimal sides. Many people have had poor results, and Frank has met each claim with denial and accusations. The people waiting for, hoping for, good bloods in the next few days are hopeless optimists.

This, always wait for testing to come in and results before falling in love with these guys. Make small orders, get bloodwork, and trust the testing the guys here are so great at doing.

 

[kaizoku]

I kindly asked to upload another image of a higher quality to be able to read it, see which units are used, methods, every info, in response I`ve been ganged up as a victim. If you all can not be respectful and can not observe normal negotiation rules, I get the same attitude from my side. I don`t give a fuck what somebody posted there if i even couldn`t readt it normally.

How is it possible that EVERYONE else here can read the numbers and see what units are used on the bloodwork but you can't?

Let me help you.

From the under dosed Test E thread:
TOTAL TESTOSTERONE: 1818 ng/DL

The U.S. measures in ng/DL.
Most European countries, Balkans, Russia, etc. measure in nmol/L.
When you convert it 1818 ng/DL = 63 nmol/L

That is HALF of what the results you posted on Evo say.
Now you have no excuse.

 

[redrum720]

Frank is an asshole fuck you
It's your store same gear pharmacom even if Darius is a reseller it means he buys in bulk from you guys
I bet if the new tests Darius is doing with some wkm come back Good you'll jump on that band wagon
You don't test your raws your an asshole and if you bad mouth meso over at evo it's discrediting you because they have lurkers here who come looking at whole truth
And that video of mass production is in China soooo your gear is from China dumb fuck

 

[Docd187123]

Yes. But, to the degree that he is talking about? I doubt it.

Agreed. It's not going to raise his levels by 1000ng/dl or anything like that.

 

[Bighurt51]

Whos to say that understanding attitude from darius isnt just a ploy to play you and others, maybe keep you around a little longer. Anyone selling product should know what they are selling. It needs to be remembered how both these guys talked up the quality of this product.

Absolutely right!!!

 

[xgunx]

Agreed. It's not going to raise his levels by 1000ng/dl or anything like that.

I was aware there was a difference, was just busy at the time. I guess i could have worded it differently.

 

[xgunx]

Frank is an asshole fuck you
It's your store same gear pharmacom even if Darius is a reseller it means he buys in bulk from you guys
I bet if the new tests Darius is doing with some wkm come back Good you'll jump on that band wagon
You don't test your raws your an asshole and if you bad mouth meso over at evo it's discrediting you because they have lurkers here who come looking at whole truth
And that video of mass production is in China soooo your gear is from China dumb fuck

Nice avi!

 

[rpbb]

I was aware there was a difference, was just busy at the time. I guess i could have worded it differently.

X, weren't you having problems with the dbol

 

[rpbb]

Nice avi!

That's hilarious

 

[xgunx]

X, weren't you having problems with the dbol

I havent posted that yet but i have upped my dose from 50 to 60mg ed. Years ago when i ran it i had more gains off of 30mg so i think im just gonna keep upping it at this point. Its gotta be underdosed.

 

[Haunch]

I am probably the honest persons and for sure one of the most honest source reps you have seen on this forum. You can think whatever you want, it doesn`t change the facts.


You are celebrating to early. As well as there are no proves in this where as there will be proves from my side in a while... however I am even not going to publish them on this board and here typical shit from the same usernames about faked proves.

Wow, man it looks like you are the smartest one here from all members. And this is not irony. Good post...

Thanks my friend, you are reading my thoughts. I even don`t mention that together with testosterone shall be also tested other hormones like LH, FSH, SBGH,estradiol, prolactin and of coarse liver enzymes. Not to mention that all esters are methabolized by the liver, which is in high degree responsible for metabolism of globulin, albumin, testosterone itself, activity of 5-alpha-reductase, 5-beta-reductase, aromatase and other compounds having different values/activity at different people and having a direct impact on testosterone value in blood. I am eager to see your results.

This guy sounds like and acts like Carl from Sciroxx. Some of you have experience with him

 

[rpbb]

I havent posted that yet but i have upped my dose from 50 to 60mg ed. Years ago when i ran it i had more gains off of 30mg so i think im just gonna keep upping it at this point. Its gotta be underdosed.

that sucks, I've never taken more the 25 mg of dbol to get results. always afraid to take more than that because of the liver

 

[AintEvenAware]

The situation definitely sucks, but the only hope I'm holding out is that all of these failed LM and low blood tests came from Darius gear.

Maybe just maybe, the basicstero stuff shipped international actually came from the manufacturer and isn't shit.

Time will tell

 

[Wunderpus]

the jury may still be out on pharmacom but as far as frank goes the jury is back and he has been found guilty of being a total idiot

IW, we oftentimes have the same opinions on such matters.

I understand the argument of two blood tests, from not-so-reputable members (especially when they're almost at the same time), not holding too much water. But, as @flenser stated the labmaxes coincided directly with the results we're seeing. It becomes more indicative that @mercury was correct when he said the minimal glow implied minimal active hormone.

Of course the __X rule doesn't always apply, as we have learned from bloods from pharma test. But, 3.5x is awfully low.

I truly hope these two bloods are flukes. But, hope doesn't really mean anything.

 

[Wunderpus]

Yes. But, to the degree that he is talking about? I doubt it.

Sometimes as much as 50%, when comparing delts to glutes, for example.