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Here is what Frank had to say over at EVO for those who can't see it. It can be found here :http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...armacom-labs-supplier!-welcome!-9117-102.html

Hey guys. Yes, I confirm there is a war... well... not a war. I was not very welcomed there from the very beginning. The whole thing has a very dirty background I am unfortunately involved into. I really can not say anything about it. In fact there were really some lab max tests done and spectrometry of bold and primo, bought not in our store. So first think I would very appreciate here if we will discuss not Pharmacom at all, but only products bought in our store. There is a stupid mess-up about all these tests. If you somebody want more info, i can give him some more explanations in pm. Not here. So, there are indeed to test done, which results i can not really see, they are hardly readable. I say you here honestly, I absolutely don`t trust these 2 blood works. At first appeared one and in 10 minutes after I appeared on the forum somebody published another results, which are hardly readable from some unknown person. I tell you honestly I absolutely don`t believe them. And I have at least one grounded reason not to do this. We are not very famous in the states, but we are brand Nr. 1 in Russia. We came originally from Moldova and is clear that our gear was distributed first of all in CIS countries. So. In Russia there are several independent boards, where people share they blood work results 95% of them are perfect. And 95% of people are absolutely happy. I can publish a couple of latest results here for example. I show you how actually a good result shall look like. Here is an example. It is in Russian, but you will understand it. In the upper part of the photo you see the results before cycle. This guy did not take any steroids. It is important to estimate a real effect of a product. You see the datum 04.08.2014. Even time. You see there the name of a person, it is important as an evidence that we see tests of the same person all the time. Below are results in the following order:
FSH
LH
Estradiol
Testosteron.
Prolactin
Bold type is the real result and in the right part lowest and highest reference limit typical for this lab only. Limits can be absolutely different for each lab depending on which method and equipment are used to test the blood.
On the same photo is a list with the same results of the same person in 4 weeks. Please check the datum 28.08.2014 (in Russian standard on the first place is always day, the second place - month and after - year). 28th of August 2014. Also notice the name is the same. As you can see here we have testosterone (тестостерон in russian) result over 120 mIU/L. This sign left to 120 mean - over - this is the higher limit the lab was able to detect. The settings of their equipment are not set to higher numbers cause they are not physiologic. But the level is over 120, probably 130, probably 140 or 160, we will already never know it. What is important is the reference limit in the link part of the photo - as I said it can be different for different labs. Also estradiol and prolactin levels which raised of coarse. This guy described also in his post what he used in which dosages and when the test was made. Well, the blood work has been performed on week 4 as you can see based on dates. He started his cycle om the same day later after he visited a lab.


And here is another photo of the same guy in the middle of his cycle.


This is our sust 300 mg/week + our anastrazol.
On boards in Russia thee are dozens of blood works. At this we have a strong board similar to meso, but this is a very serious board where lot of professional athletes seat. If somebody says there something, he has to prove it or he gets banned immediately. If someone says that Pharmacom is good gear and he had good results on it he has to show photos with his current physique and blood work results. If somebody says this is bunk, he has to show his photo again, a vial with batch code, blood work results, etc. Everything is taken very serious there. How do you think would IFBB professionals use our gear if it was bunk?
Guys, I ask ask you, before you make any conclusions on base on a couple photos, please don`t. This is the same as somebody said to me that this book is bullshit, so I will not read it, however you have no idea what is this book about and will not able to estimate it until you read it. The same here. Please publish here as many blood works of gear bought in our store as possible and believe only your feelings and blood works. The time will show who is right...
As for these meso clowns, they look very funny stupid, to break out a storm based only on a couple shady photos and fill dozens of pages about nothing, only complaining and and claiming us to be bunk without any reviews in fact... i would understand if there would be say 20 bad blood works which are bad, this is undeniable, but what they do is just exaggerating and and building up pressure emphasizing our allegedly low quality... a normal person would just wait for other results, what i expect from other boards. In the fact i like what these clowns are doing, the more they write the more visitors has the thread and soon it will be more popular as the thread of naps, which are... oh... this is already absolute another story...
So guys please do as many blood works of on our testosterones and in the meantime i post you several "very bad" blood work results with references. I think you will able to understand them. If somebody can speak russian I will gladly give you links to russian boards where you can read lot of reviews about us, personally speak with the guys using our gear, ask them, etc

Clearly, he has no respect for any of us "meso clowns" and doesn't understand the storied past we have with sources and the justified skepticism each source is met with.
 
Have you ever had blood work done while on other gear for comparison? would be good if you did cause then you could more accurately tell what your usual numbers are and compare it to this to see really how much of a difference there is. The 10x rule etc is ok but the problem is that not everyone is different and not everyone has the same response to gear so you can't say for sure that if it was properly dosed you would have x amount of test. The best way would be to compare your own results over a period of time using different gear. Your numbers do seem low though that's for sure not disputing that.
This is an excellent point. Not to play devil's advocate here.
 
It's worth mentioning that I googled basicstero and saw him active on evo business as usual today just before someone posted what was going on over here. Now this clown vanished from there too.

I just don't get these "reward offers" for posting blood work if your gear is shit lol. At least spend a few more cents and throw in an extra 100mg powder even if it's impure so bloods look impressive at least.
They do that to make it seem like they're confident in their product. That gives them 8 solids weeks to make sales then vanish once the bloods do actually come in.
 
Hey @brutus79 this is my first running tbol so my experience is not there but I'm not trying to bull shit people with the libido increases and the pumps I'm getting. That's the last thing I want is to praise something that ain't good but I think there is a couple people that do have experience with tbol that seemed to like it. Hopefully it is on point
Week 2 of my tbol and a cruise dose of test e.so far the tbol is treating me good.
 
Im still gonna post my results when they come in. He can say whatever he wants but i took pics of my gear when i received it just like he said to do.
My labs are legit and if he tries to discredit me it will tell us all we need to know about Frank and pharmacom.
 
Frank is probably some low level reject rep from them anyway. Everything he claims about being high up in pharmacom and being in close contact to the top is probably all bullshit. Nothing more than just another low level reseller. At this point I would be willing to bet that Darius has more influence than him. If his attitude is a true reflection of the lab then that is all you need to know really to stay away from this bunch.
 
Frank is probably some low level reject rep from them anyway. Everything he claims about being high up in pharmacom and being in close contact to the top is probably all bullshit. Nothing more than just another low level reseller. At this point I would be willing to bet that Darius has more influence than him. If his attitude is a true reflection of the lab then that is all you need to know really to stay away from this bunch.
That's the vibe I get from him too
 
Pharmacom isn't that well known...so maybe just a home-grown outfit out in the jungle maybe?
 
Well Frank. ^^^This certainly looks like a product that was purchased in your store. Wouldn't you agree? All eyes on you Frank!
Show me, i see nothing to agree with.
This is getting ridiculous. How long are we going to let it continue?
The first link had blood test results of 1484 at 400mg/wk of Test P.

Then this guy posts bloods of 1800ish at 600mg/wk.

All of these results are insanely low and it's testosterone. Not even an exotic compound.

Frank, I defended you on the labmax issue on the grounds that bloods had yet to be posted. Bloods are being posted that are well below where they should be.

At least comment on how you are going to rectify this situation once it's confirmed that your gear is very underdosed
Have you personally performed a blood work on cycle with test ordered from our store? Please do it. The more results we all see the better.

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I think your right man... It's bullshit... I remember many post ago somewhere he was saying how no one has vet counterfeited their products and all pharmacom products were made in same place now he's satin he only wants results from stuff bought in their store and there may be fakes now...it's like anytime bad results come up they are never legit enough I mean idk bout yhall but when I click the test results they are not super clear but u can read then easy and see they say 1823 are eighteen something can't remember the exact number but u can see it... I mean I have said this before I think when ugl even bigger ones like pharmacom say they mass spec every batch of raws then mass spec again the final product before sending out is bullshit I guarantee they are not doing this everything... Yes I believe they prolly test diff raws before they buy to see if they are getting good raws but the raw supplier can just send them good quality stuff to test then when they buy a big order and when I say a big order a lab like pharmacom I'm sure it's very big the supplier send them bullshit and then let's say if they do test that batch an it come back not so great do they then just throw it all away and take the loss??? I doubt it... Idk for me to believe they know every batch of raws they have are good is hard for me to believe.

READ THE FUCKING THREAD MAN! MAKE YOUR OWN MIND UP!! Thank you :mad:

@Pharmacom Labs
Frank. Let's use some logic here. You work for pharmacom, the lab. So technically if we bought from a certified pharmacom distributor then you're the man to speak to because they distribute only but you work for the lab. These low blood levels have to do with your production not distribution. You were so proud to show us your big expensive production line equipment and brag how you test all your powders from every batch for every compound and if they don't pass you scrap it and get new powders. If all this is true then the only conclusion is that your a big fucking liar or the bloods are faked. We know the latter is not true because trust me, most of us on this thread have spent alot of money because of the sales pitches you made and we want your gear to be good. But...not lookin that way...so...now what. If your lab tests it's powders on your own mass spec equipment then why is your test, of all things, so drastically underdosed?
Luuucyyy...you got some splainin to do.
I will PM you.

I'll second that about the npp... Only pharmacom product I've picked up thankfully. Seems to be doing it's job, knees went from killing me to not being noticeable.
Don`t you all think that it would be absolutely stupid to underdose the cheapest steroid, which can be easily checked but to put more expensive compounds. If somebody thinks that such big company as Pharmacom would really underdose the easiest to check drug,... no comments.

I urge every member on this thread to reread Franks intro. Oh...you too Frank you lying piece of shit. You were so quick to sell us. Where are you now?
Why didn`t you ask this question a couple of days ago when I haven`t vidited the board several days? Hm? If am not here it obviously means I have more imortant things to settle as to read dozens of pages of an unfounded and exaggerated bullshit raised just from a couple of shady pictures.
I find it interesting that Pharmacon just stopped in briefly, read that the blood tests were a disaster, posted a couple of very brief comments, and then hightailed it to higher ground.

No doubt Pharmacon is consulting with the higher-ups at this very moment, planning strategy and trying to figure out a way to deny the validity of the tests - all in a desperate attempt to keep the dream alive. What a joke.
Special for such self-confident and bull-headed members as you I say there was no discussions and strategy plannings at all. There is nothing to reply here. I kindly asked to upload another image of a higher quality to be able to read it, see which units are used, methods, every info, in response I`ve been ganged up as a victim. If you all can not be respectful and can not observe normal negotiation rules, I get the same attitude from my side. I don`t give a fuck what somebody posted there if i even couldn`t readt it normally. There will be no strategies at all. I wait till lot of our testers perfoerm blod works and publish them in all boards. Everyone who trust to this picture can go a mile around our store and all other bull-heads can continue writing here bullshit and keep this thread always on the top creating more and more views. What a nice advertising for me. Soon there will be more replies as the the thread of naps if it goes like this further. Keep keeping!
Don't worry. He'll be back. He just got called to a meeting to decide on the new company name and marketing strategy.
Oh, you are so wrong, I have not to prove anything at all. People will see everything themselves after they perform their own bloodworks.
It's a good thing these bloods got posted...a friend of mine was about to put in a big order. Saved him from that mistake.

Where are you @Pharmacom Labs ?
We want answers.
It looks like I have already replied this questions.
Keep making views to the thread. It will be so good for me in the end.
 
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Show me, i see nothing to agree with.


Have you personally performed a blood work on cycle with test ordered from our store? Please do it. The more results we all see the better.






I will PM you.


Don`t you all think that it would be absolutely stupid to underdose the cheapest steroid, which can be easily checked but to put more expensive compounds. If somebody thinks that such big company as Pharmacom would really underdose the easiest to check drug,... no comments.


Why didn`t you ask this question a couple of days ago when I haven`t vidited the board several days? Hm? If am not here it obviously means I have more imortant things to settle as to read dozens of pages of an unfounded and exaggerated bullshit raised just from a couple of shady pictures.

Special for such self-confident and bull-headed members as you I say there was no discussions and strategy plannings at all. There is nothing to reply here. I kindly asked to upload another image of a higher quality to be able to read it, see which units are used, methods, every info, in response

I told you where you can see the labs results Frank. I'm not going to hold your hand. Saw your Evo post of how you enjoy us bumping your thread.

I encourage everyone who is running Franks gear to get labs, do not adjust your dose until you complete your blood work. Facts and data Speaks volumes Frank.

I like the way you ask for blood work and immediately attempt to discredit it when it shows up. If it's one thing we're good at encouraging here at Meso, it's bringing proof to the table.
 
OK Frankie, we can all stop posting in this thread and it WILL die a quick death even if Millard deletes or locks it...guaranteed!
 
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