MESO-Rx Sponsor Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store

This shit drives me fucking nuts! Why wouldn’t you answer a simple question like this out in the open so you don’t have to field private messages from everyone that is waiting for a pack from W1?

*Pharmacom Helper* "Oh shit, he's on to us. I'll just post the same pic of one of our sponsored athletes that I've already posted 20 times before, then post a detailed cut and paste product write up for one of our mixes. That should throw him off the trail."
 
*Pharmacom Helper* "Oh shit, he's on to us. I'll just post the same pic of one of our sponsored athletes that I've already posted 20 times before, then post a detailed cut and paste product write up for one of our mixes. That should throw him off the trail."

honestly, what happened to this source. I loved everything about this company, but it look like they are slowly declining. IMO . I hope they get back on track.
 
Sergey Taranuho - PRO athlete team Pharmacom Labs.

Link to Sergey's instagram profile, follow the news.

www.instagram.com/taranuho.pro

OXkNX4QErTA.jpg
 
honestly, what happened to this source. I loved everything about this company, but it look like they are slowly declining. IMO . I hope they get back on track.

Corona has thrown an elephant sized monkey wrench into their operations it seems.

Sergey Taranuho - PRO athlete team Pharmacom Labs.

Link to Sergey's instagram profile, follow the news.

www.instagram.com/taranuho.pro

OXkNX4QErTA.jpg

This is really getting old. Is it not good enough to just be listed on the first page of the underground?

Do you really need to keep posting the same pics over and over to bump the thread to the top of the list? What real difference does it make?
 
honestly, what happened to this source. I loved everything about this company, but it look like they are slowly declining. IMO . I hope they get back on track.


back on track? nothing is declining or "off-track."

Nothing has declined. The source has been good with communication and updates throughout the global CV-19 crisis.

Products are of the highest possible quality -- this has not changed.

US Dom never shut-down and has been fully functioning with regular business.

W2 has recently returned to shipping with the packs that were stopped because of CV-19 policies now shipped.

W1 cannot ship to the USA yet (to the best of my understanding) because of CV-19 restrictions but has courier option for customers within the EU.

W1 cannot restock because of CV-19 restrictions in specific nations; once restock occurs, I am sure the source will announce since after all a source does like business.

All has been communicated multiple times and appears on the source's site.

Many TD posts being seen across multiple boards including this thread.

As always the source has gone out of its way to help customers -- some of which read this thread (And talk to me in PM) and it would be nice if they let the public know the good news when they get helped but usually we only see the few complaints because when business goes well no one is motivated to post (makes sense as it is just what is expected -- order and products come, all good, nothing to talk about). In the rare event they do take the time to say good things about sources (not just this one), people bash and talk trash which discourages others from posting positive content.

People I know in-person have all received packs over the past month.

Many have been enjoying their orders from US Dom the entire time, and now many more are enjoying their orders from W2 :)
 
back on track? nothing is declining or "off-track."

Nothing has declined. The source has been good with communication and updates throughout the global CV-19 crisis.

Products are of the highest possible quality -- this has not changed.

US Dom never shut-down and has been fully functioning with regular business.

W2 has recently returned to shipping with the packs that were stopped because of CV-19 policies now shipped.

W1 cannot ship to the USA yet (to the best of my understanding) because of CV-19 restrictions but has courier option for customers within the EU.

W1 cannot restock because of CV-19 restrictions in specific nations; once restock occurs, I am sure the source will announce since after all a source does like business.

All has been communicated multiple times and appears on the source's site.

Many TD posts being seen across multiple boards including this thread.

As always the source has gone out of its way to help customers -- some of which read this thread (And talk to me in PM) and it would be nice if they let the public know the good news when they get helped but usually we only see the few complaints because when business goes well no one is motivated to post (makes sense as it is just what is expected -- order and products come, all good, nothing to talk about). In the rare event they do take the time to say good things about sources (not just this one), people bash and talk trash which discourages others from posting positive content.

People I know in-person have all received packs over the past month.

Many have been enjoying their orders from US Dom the entire time, and now many more are enjoying their orders from W2 :)

@RThoads, I hav always respected your work on here and we are all privileged to get good advice from you. I am not dissing the source, I just have seen a lot of sources (well known) thrive during this pandemic. I totally bet that Basic is working hard on their end. But on this end, it appears that the business side of things is going way over their heads. I love basic, but honestly, I’m using other sources that are not having so many hick ups.

like @MisterSuperGod has stated, basic keeps showing their athletes over and over. We know that the athletes are getting their Stuff while the customers are getting frustrated on the lack of communication and response to emails / posts.

so that’s my 2 cents ( not like anyone asked for it) lol.

your awesome and well respected, and I appreciate your hard work on this forum.
 
@RThoads, I hav always respected your work on here and we are all privileged to get good advice from you. I am not dissing the source, I just have seen a lot of sources (well known) thrive during this pandemic. I totally bet that Basic is working hard on their end. But on this end, it appears that the business side of things is going way over their heads. I love basic, but honestly, I’m using other sources that are not having so many hick ups.

like @MisterSuperGod has stated, basic keeps showing their athletes over and over. We know that the athletes are getting their Stuff while the customers are getting frustrated on the lack of communication and response to emails / posts.

so that’s my 2 cents ( not like anyone asked for it) lol.

your awesome and well respected, and I appreciate your hard work on this forum.


Thank you for the kind words; and, likewise I do not mean any disrespect to you or anyone. :)
You have every right to your own opinion and ideas and I fully support your freedom to express anything brother :)

I am just stating the situation because when 5 guys post making it sound like there is an issue , but 1000 guys order and are happy but say nothing (because why would they it if there is no issue), the perception on the board is skewed and not an accurate representation of reality.

I am sure some small one-man garage lab that may have had raws on reserve did not see much change during the CV-19 crisis. But neither did Basicstero's US Domestic Warehouse.
That same small UGL may not give the same quality product (sure some do, and if you find a good ugl congrats, but many suck they come and go etc and not everyone in the world has a hook-up with a good private lab).

I simply disagree regarding Basic being in over their heads or any issue at all really. They had a delay because of government policies in multiple nations blocked shipping but as soon as possible they shipped everything that was owed and gave credits/bonus (for something not the source fault) to be kind.
I am sure many here have received the delayed packs from W2 already (I got mine a month ago and see TD posted on others boards).

You see customers frustrated and post multiple posts, but then you see the same guys get resolved in private or publicly make one post to say it is all taken care of -- but they are not going to make 5 posts to say it is all taken care of; they make one, sometimes, and move on.

Who here really is without a reply or has a question without an answer?
Let he or she ask, and I am likely able to find the topic already addressed in the thread and usually we can find a direct reply.
I personally have answered a great number of questions on the source’s behalf – I have limited power or authority but work hard to help fellow members here (if it were not disrespectful to people’s privacy I would tag the last 5 I helped from PMs and ask them to give feedback, but it would be rude for me to put anyone on the spot of post private business).

I have seen every question answered either directly or it was already addressed in the announcements or on Basic's site.

In regards to Basics staff who posts athletes and products, that is his job -- he is PR/marketing -- it is normal for a business to have such things. Many people do not look at the entire thread. Most may not even be members on each board (I am not sure how every board works because I am a member on all); most views are from new people that come to a board. We can see such stats somewhere on the board in terms of how many are viewing and how many are actual members logged in.
So while you may have seen some content already, others may not have.

Please also keep in mind that English is like NOT the first language of the source’s staff (some may speak very little English). Therefore, yes, you may see scripts copy/pasted for commonly repeated inquiries (again, not uncommon for businesses all over the world).

To be clear, no hard feelings at all I like 99% of guys here – this is my community too and I am also a customer.
Written word lacks a lot – if we were in person talking you would see I am positive friendly guy and very laid back easy going .

I am just doing my job too.

IF anyone has a question I missed, just ask me and I will try my best to answer – I check in most days in the late morning, afternoon, and then again in the evening. Like anyone, sometimes I need a break and try to take at least one weekday and a weekend day off (I hope you all understand the need for that so I may see family etc without being online).

Anyway, it’s all good, Basicstero business is going strong (only limits still in place are with W1; US Domestic and W2 are going full blast), and I wish everyone all the best!
 
Thank you for the kind words; and, likewise I do not mean any disrespect to you or anyone. :)
You have every right to your own opinion and ideas and I fully support your freedom to express anything brother :)

I am just stating the situation because when 5 guys post making it sound like there is an issue , but 1000 guys order and are happy but say nothing (because why would they it if there is no issue), the perception on the board is skewed and not an accurate representation of reality.

I am sure some small one-man garage lab that may have had raws on reserve did not see much change during the CV-19 crisis. But neither did Basicstero's US Domestic Warehouse.
That same small UGL may not give the same quality product (sure some do, and if you find a good ugl congrats, but many suck they come and go etc and not everyone in the world has a hook-up with a good private lab).

I simply disagree regarding Basic being in over their heads or any issue at all really. They had a delay because of government policies in multiple nations blocked shipping but as soon as possible they shipped everything that was owed and gave credits/bonus (for something not the source fault) to be kind.
I am sure many here have received the delayed packs from W2 already (I got mine a month ago and see TD posted on others boards).

You see customers frustrated and post multiple posts, but then you see the same guys get resolved in private or publicly make one post to say it is all taken care of -- but they are not going to make 5 posts to say it is all taken care of; they make one, sometimes, and move on.

Who here really is without a reply or has a question without an answer?
Let he or she ask, and I am likely able to find the topic already addressed in the thread and usually we can find a direct reply.
I personally have answered a great number of questions on the source’s behalf – I have limited power or authority but work hard to help fellow members here (if it were not disrespectful to people’s privacy I would tag the last 5 I helped from PMs and ask them to give feedback, but it would be rude for me to put anyone on the spot of post private business).

I have seen every question answered either directly or it was already addressed in the announcements or on Basic's site.

In regards to Basics staff who posts athletes and products, that is his job -- he is PR/marketing -- it is normal for a business to have such things. Many people do not look at the entire thread. Most may not even be members on each board (I am not sure how every board works because I am a member on all); most views are from new people that come to a board. We can see such stats somewhere on the board in terms of how many are viewing and how many are actual members logged in.
So while you may have seen some content already, others may not have.

Please also keep in mind that English is like NOT the first language of the source’s staff (some may speak very little English). Therefore, yes, you may see scripts copy/pasted for commonly repeated inquiries (again, not uncommon for businesses all over the world).

To be clear, no hard feelings at all I like 99% of guys here – this is my community too and I am also a customer.
Written word lacks a lot – if we were in person talking you would see I am positive friendly guy and very laid back easy going .

I am just doing my job too.

IF anyone has a question I missed, just ask me and I will try my best to answer – I check in most days in the late morning, afternoon, and then again in the evening. Like anyone, sometimes I need a break and try to take at least one weekday and a weekend day off (I hope you all understand the need for that so I may see family etc without being online).

Anyway, it’s all good, Basicstero business is going strong (only limits still in place are with W1; US Domestic and W2 are going full blast), and I wish everyone all the best!

I doubt I was in the last 5 - You probably get a shit ton of PMs LOL, but I will say that you have gone out of your way to help me on numerous occasions either via PM or in the thread.

Oftentimes this involved "extra work" such as researching into something or contacting someone else within the source to find an answer.

One thing that is frustrating is Covid has presented things that no one has ever seen before. It is stressful time ( financially and in general) for both source and customer.

I actually just sent you a PM as when I contacted customer service they had not heard of something happening before so I was wondering if you might.
 
Pharmacom Lab Tests

I will post some lab tests from Wikibolics, all recent tests, I can also give details of all gear tested if needed (Manufacturing date, Expiry date and Batch no.).

All lab tests are underdosed.


As you said: Deviations within +/- 10% from concentration stated on the label are permissible. Therefore, if the product in question is found to be within +/- 10% of Pharmacom’s advertised concentration it is considered a positive good result.

Primo 100 mg/ml
Results: 60.02 mg

Test P 100 mg/ml
R: 95.01 mg

Win tabs 10 mg/tab
R: 9.02 mg

Tren E 200 mg/ml
R: 103.92 mg

Tren E 200 mg/ml
R: 104.47 mg

Oxymetos 25 mg/tab
R: 23.58 mg

Test C 200 mg/ml
R: 150.81 mg

masteron P 100 mg/ml
R: 56.15 mg

Test E 250 mg/ml
R: 204 mg

Oxandrolonos 10 mg/tab
R: 8.55 mg

Bold 300 mg/ml
R: 292.22 mg

Dianabolos 10 mg/tab
R: 9.34 mg

Winstrol inj 50 mg/ml
R: 49.31 mg

Sust 300 mg/ml
R: 261.47 mg
Details of sustanon lab test:
Test Propionate 36 mg/ ml R: 31.55 mg
Test Phenyl Propionte 72 mg/ml R: 61.62 mg
Test Isocaproate 72 mg/ml R: 63.48 mg
Test Decanoate 120 mg/ml R 104.82 mg
 
Pharmacom Lab Tests

I will post some lab tests from Wikibolics, all recent tests, I can also give details of all gear tested if needed (Manufacturing date, Expiry date and Batch no.).

All lab tests are underdosed.


As you said: Deviations within +/- 10% from concentration stated on the label are permissible. Therefore, if the product in question is found to be within +/- 10% of Pharmacom’s advertised concentration it is considered a positive good result.

Primo 100 mg/ml
Results: 60.02 mg

Test P 100 mg/ml
R: 95.01 mg

Win tabs 10 mg/tab
R: 9.02 mg

Tren E 200 mg/ml
R: 103.92 mg

Tren E 200 mg/ml
R: 104.47 mg

Oxymetos 25 mg/tab
R: 23.58 mg

Test C 200 mg/ml
R: 150.81 mg

masteron P 100 mg/ml
R: 56.15 mg

Test E 250 mg/ml
R: 204 mg

Oxandrolonos 10 mg/tab
R: 8.55 mg

Bold 300 mg/ml
R: 292.22 mg

Dianabolos 10 mg/tab
R: 9.34 mg

Winstrol inj 50 mg/ml
R: 49.31 mg

Sust 300 mg/ml
R: 261.47 mg
Details of sustanon lab test:
Test Propionate 36 mg/ ml R: 31.55 mg
Test Phenyl Propionte 72 mg/ml R: 61.62 mg
Test Isocaproate 72 mg/ml R: 63.48 mg
Test Decanoate 120 mg/ml R 104.82 mg

If thats true you Even cant Trust Pharmacom anymore...what are the batch nr of products being tested and their Production Date?
 
Thank you for the kind words; and, likewise I do not mean any disrespect to you or anyone. :)
You have every right to your own opinion and ideas and I fully support your freedom to express anything brother :)

I am just stating the situation because when 5 guys post making it sound like there is an issue , but 1000 guys order and are happy but say nothing (because why would they it if there is no issue), the perception on the board is skewed and not an accurate representation of reality.

I am sure some small one-man garage lab that may have had raws on reserve did not see much change during the CV-19 crisis. But neither did Basicstero's US Domestic Warehouse.
That same small UGL may not give the same quality product (sure some do, and if you find a good ugl congrats, but many suck they come and go etc and not everyone in the world has a hook-up with a good private lab).

I simply disagree regarding Basic being in over their heads or any issue at all really. They had a delay because of government policies in multiple nations blocked shipping but as soon as possible they shipped everything that was owed and gave credits/bonus (for something not the source fault) to be kind.
I am sure many here have received the delayed packs from W2 already (I got mine a month ago and see TD posted on others boards).

You see customers frustrated and post multiple posts, but then you see the same guys get resolved in private or publicly make one post to say it is all taken care of -- but they are not going to make 5 posts to say it is all taken care of; they make one, sometimes, and move on.

Who here really is without a reply or has a question without an answer?
Let he or she ask, and I am likely able to find the topic already addressed in the thread and usually we can find a direct reply.
I personally have answered a great number of questions on the source’s behalf – I have limited power or authority but work hard to help fellow members here (if it were not disrespectful to people’s privacy I would tag the last 5 I helped from PMs and ask them to give feedback, but it would be rude for me to put anyone on the spot of post private business).

I have seen every question answered either directly or it was already addressed in the announcements or on Basic's site.

In regards to Basics staff who posts athletes and products, that is his job -- he is PR/marketing -- it is normal for a business to have such things. Many people do not look at the entire thread. Most may not even be members on each board (I am not sure how every board works because I am a member on all); most views are from new people that come to a board. We can see such stats somewhere on the board in terms of how many are viewing and how many are actual members logged in.
So while you may have seen some content already, others may not have.

Please also keep in mind that English is like NOT the first language of the source’s staff (some may speak very little English). Therefore, yes, you may see scripts copy/pasted for commonly repeated inquiries (again, not uncommon for businesses all over the world).

To be clear, no hard feelings at all I like 99% of guys here – this is my community too and I am also a customer.
Written word lacks a lot – if we were in person talking you would see I am positive friendly guy and very laid back easy going .

I am just doing my job too.

IF anyone has a question I missed, just ask me and I will try my best to answer – I check in most days in the late morning, afternoon, and then again in the evening. Like anyone, sometimes I need a break and try to take at least one weekday and a weekend day off (I hope you all understand the need for that so I may see family etc without being online).

Anyway, it’s all good, Basicstero business is going strong (only limits still in place are with W1; US Domestic and W2 are going full blast), and I wish everyone all the best!
Thanks RT, I will say the athlete thing is getting old, and seems more like an effort to distract from their isuues
 
@Simobbuilder

What makes this site to which your refer, or its results, credible?
how can anyone know these are actual results? Are the results from an accredited lab and may be verified? How do we know what samples were actually sent? how to know if it is not a competitor making false claims? or affilated in some way to specific brands/lab and bash others? some other motive?
Anyone may make a site and write anything.

What accredited 3rd party lab do they use for the ananlysis -- lets see the testing ID numbers so we may contact the accredited lab and at least verify the results.
Still it would not let us know what they sent to the lab -- I can send a counterfeit vial of NAPS brand (arbitrary hypothetic example, I have nothing against that business) to an lab for testing, or even send a purposly diluted or just plain oil vial etc. then the labs testes what I sent or what they obtained online (maybe counterfeits) but writes it is NAPS product.

Also, labs can pay testers to give good results for some brands. OR the source itself may send its own sample but pick very good ones to send to get a good result.

This is a tough business -- like any dealing with banned things -- shit, even legal business is a pretty tough world (we see places get busted for all kinds of motives, even big shit like ENRON); when money and business is involved, anything is possible.

I trust Anabolic Labs anonymous buying and sending to a reputable accredited lab ( Pharmacom Labs Archives - Anabolic Lab ).

But, IF you really want to know what is in a vial, buy a vial and have it tested yourself by a 3rd party accredited lab (not some guy online that could just collecdt people's money and write down anything -- maybe not even ever testing but just collects money and gives a made-up result).
Any other lab or situation and you will never know the credibility of teh results, good or bad.

On a side note, different but somewhat related topic, look at these "official" crime labs and how even those FAKE or withold results (which means people went to jail or losty thier children, families, homes etc. all because human blindly trust analysis lab results as if they are infallible and provide absolute facts); if this happnes with regards to legal "evidence" that may destroy lives, just think how corrupt steroid testing can be:
Crime labs under the microscope after a string of shoddy, suspect and fraudulent results

Massachusetts Crime Lab Chemist Arrested for Falsifying Results | Prison Legal News

CSI Is a Lie: Forensic Investigations Are Overdue for Reform
 
Pharmacom Lab Tests

I will post some lab tests from Wikibolics, all recent tests, I can also give details of all gear tested if needed (Manufacturing date, Expiry date and Batch no.).

All lab tests are underdosed.


As you said: Deviations within +/- 10% from concentration stated on the label are permissible. Therefore, if the product in question is found to be within +/- 10% of Pharmacom’s advertised concentration it is considered a positive good result.

Primo 100 mg/ml
Results: 60.02 mg

Test P 100 mg/ml
R: 95.01 mg

Win tabs 10 mg/tab
R: 9.02 mg

Tren E 200 mg/ml
R: 103.92 mg

Tren E 200 mg/ml
R: 104.47 mg

Oxymetos 25 mg/tab
R: 23.58 mg

Test C 200 mg/ml
R: 150.81 mg

masteron P 100 mg/ml
R: 56.15 mg

Test E 250 mg/ml
R: 204 mg

Oxandrolonos 10 mg/tab
R: 8.55 mg

Bold 300 mg/ml
R: 292.22 mg

Dianabolos 10 mg/tab
R: 9.34 mg

Winstrol inj 50 mg/ml
R: 49.31 mg

Sust 300 mg/ml
R: 261.47 mg
Details of sustanon lab test:
Test Propionate 36 mg/ ml R: 31.55 mg
Test Phenyl Propionte 72 mg/ml R: 61.62 mg
Test Isocaproate 72 mg/ml R: 63.48 mg
Test Decanoate 120 mg/ml R 104.82 mg

Well that is unsettling. I was excited to be receiving my package soon, but now I'm anxious that I have to check their quality =/
 
Thanks RT, I will say the athlete thing is getting old, and seems more like an effort to distract from their isuues

no worries :),
No conspiracy or anything more than simply advertising/marketing (like any supplement company -- show the athletes, show the products... i guess like any business in general, even if we were selling shoes it would be the same way).
He is just doing his job to help bring attention to the brand.

This source is very open and Frank (the global sales manager, our boss) has always strived to comminicate everything he knows, proactively even when it is not teh best for busniess, as well as go out of his way to help customers (including taking big losses to make situation good for customers even when it was not the source's respocibility) -- he has earned my respect over many years and he has shown us all a track-record of integrity.

One of my jobs is to watch boards and assess traffic -- determine if the potential return on investment (including our time and on some boards there are fees) is favorable.
I look at the numbers of guests and members online at time; how big is the audience, is it growing or shrinking, is it worth it for source's to be there.
Then, I look at specific sections (maybe 1000s are there but not in source sections -- if they are just there to look at pics of girls lol or argue about politics, that won't help our business); i look at threads and section, view counts, participation etc.

What i notice is that most people are NOT members of these sites/boards; most never post nor even have a name. Most of the time it is guests that just google or get a name of a site from a friend or another site etc. and jump on to quickly (i do not recommend this; i researched for years before ever making a purchase) just find a source and get what they want (sadly, this also means they usually only look at cost NOT if they are comparing a new garage UGL with little reputation to our world-wide brand with a decade of successful business); they just jump on quick, read the last post and try to find a link or email to make orders. Even many of the "members" rarely interact or do any reading :( every community see it and frowns upon people just coming to get sources (not being despicable for his or her health or a contributing member to a community), but the fact is that is the reality.

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Clearly, neither you nor I, nor the source made it be like this -- it is just the world we live in and human nature.
The source is a business not a humanitarian activist; so general advertising and understanding everyday new viewers jump on just for that time to look for things is the reality.

My apology if his advertising work gets old for you, i understand you see it all before.
But for many it is the first and only time they may see it -- it could be the difference of their interest in the source or them never even knowing the source exists.
It is nothing more than that.
 
Well that is unsettling. I was excited to be receiving my package soon, but now I'm anxious that I have to check their quality =/

See my reply a coupel posts up -- what makes you turst "Wikibolics" ???
I just registered there and it looks like they want a fee to view (maybe I have wrong site). I will contact Millard (MESO boss) and ask if he knows more about this site.
 
You guys maming me put in work today lol :)
So many PMs and otehr work just on MESO. I still have to check a lot of other boards. I needed to go to the DMV to renew linense today but it looks like it will be too late for that; will have to wait until next week.
IF I get popped from riding dirty with old license, you all better start go-fund-me and throw in a few bucks to help ;)
 
And what do you do in the event that we bring an underdosed test of one of your products. carried out by an accredited laboratory?
 
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