Hey Meso! I did not visit the board for a while, had some issues to solve, my apologies!!!This will never happen again. Also this does not touch our store and it works as per normal schedule.
I would like to calm down everyone just in case, guys you can be 100% sure we are not going to disappear and will never do this, especially if we have customers waiting for orders!
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I have read last pages and reply to some of posts I found.
Honestly frank I know that this is an opinion. And this is a source review forum. Not a source forum. Do t like it get the fuck out of here. There are people who will listen to my opinion here. I have nothing to gain by making shut up and attacking you. However you have everything to gain. The burden of proof us on you my friend. I'm just letting people know that your product isn't up to par. So be it.
I understand your point. You are disappointed cause you are not feeling as you expected to be feeling. You trust your feelings, but they are still subjective. Moreover if we have mass spec results proving our tren is tren, but it does not agree with your feelings… So what you say in this case? Of course, this test proves nothing, this was only one vial and another one can be absolutely different/underdosed/bunk, this is what I see here. I don`t agree, it cannot. And we are going to do our best to prove this. By the way, we have absolutely nothing to hide and everyone can test any vial ordered in our store! I know Millard will also test some vials, you are welcome!
Moreover, in fact I donated 10% of our month profit to Millards`s project as I promised and provided him all proves. In fact I donated virtually the half of the amount collected for the moment!!! I say this not to underline I am so cool, buy in my store. I just want you to understand we have nothing against our and not only our gear to be independently tested and support this initiative as far as we can! I believe this might make all labs to be more responsible!
You'll get some real gear. But if it's proberly dosed or labeled. That is the question. I did the same as you. I even had my order doubled by accident. So I got 1000 for 300. I just wanted people to know that the dosing didn't seem right. And then frank started all the normal source diversion techniques to discredit me. It's a sources go to, start questioning diet and whether your a person that responds. Shit man. I know how my body reacts to compounds. It's fucking obvious with Tren. Acne, hair loss, bubbly urine, body odor, severe night sweats, insomnia, heartburn, aggression, depression. I know funny I would take something that brings all that on. But I always start high until the sweats start and back it down to 50-75 mgs a day. I started to sweat at night backed it down to 75 and that night I didn't sweat. It's already taken twice as long to even cause me to sweat as it usually does. I'm into my 3rd bottle.
I just asked about diet, cause I had no idea what is your nutrition plan, etc. We all understand 90% depends on it and not on gear. Maybe you feel all these side effects, I don`t argue, but lot of people inclusive myself don`t get acne, hair loss, body odor, heartburn or aggression. I do really don`t feel anything on this. Only a bit insomnia. No aggression at all. And still good gains. What I mean is it is not really correct to estimate a drug based only side effects. This is not quite correct.
It could change vial to vial. I am just not convinced of their great quality control they claim. You may get some that's fire. Who knows. But I do know one thing in not the only one who thought his Tren was underdosed.
No it can not. If you make coffee and put it to different caps for different people everyone gets exactly the same coffee cooked in one coffee-machine. However everyone can have different feelings by taking it and can estimate it in his own way. For you it can seem too watery, for someone too strong… We all are individuals, that`s the thing! We can`t give absolutely equal estimation to one or another thing, each person is a whole world… 10 days ago I bought ephedrine to increase my energy and promote cutting. I used it a couple of years before and I remember it as an awesome energy drug! It is made by a legal pharmaceutical company as a drug against cough. I am absolutely sure it is of high quality. I took it 6 days in the same dosage as before, even a bit higher. I expected energy, drive, all the feelings I had in memory from my last cycle! Disappointing… I felt it a bit nut not in the degree I did it before or I expected it to be. Does it mean this ephedrine is underdosed? In no way. I gave it to a friend of me and he felt crazy! You can say you had a dozen of tren cycles and know how it works. At the same time this could be a reason why you don`t really notice how it really works or your expectations can bee too high. It does not matter what I say now, I not what you reply. This conversation makes not very much sense generally. I just suggest to calm down and wait for other results, which give much more for the audience as our arguing.
I don't distrust the test or the tester. Just don't trust pharmacoms QA. They have had issues with dbol and Tren A. And there have been some low bloods on their test. And one excessively high number on test p and mast p run together. So I just want everyone to realize they are not above QA issues.
I don`t agree here with you. Tests showed perfect results not only in stack test p + masteron, but also test p + nandrolone phenyl, for example. Moreover, it has been confirmed nandrolone is real, cause it helped to get rid of joints paint! So I just want everyone to realize we are doing our best to provide high quality and after 10 years of experience on the market we are not so stupid to mix up and put test into vials with masteron. This would be revealed a long time ago. The point is that most of our customers take our gear and just use it without leaving reviews. They are happy with results and don`t really care what someone thinks. I wish they left more reviews on the boards, unfortunately I cannot force them.
Pharmacom uses the same batch number for multiple batches and multiple products.
I have tren a, test e, test p, npp and mix 2...all vials and all compounds have the exact same batch number.
Pharmacom's batch #'s are complete bullshit.
I don`t agree with you. If you don`t understand something, it does not automatically means it is bullshit.
What's the point of a batch number if it's not traceable back to the actual batch if all the bottles of different compounds have same # Huh!!! Why would they do that? Is that a normal protocol? Just curious don't know much about brewing. Thanks, Bricks
Sorry, you are not right, this is exactly the traceable back letting us know what is wrong if something is really wrong.
There isn't one. Naturalkon hit it dead on. It's to give the appearance of being something they aren't. No doubt about this.
You've watched the news and heard a company announcing a recall of a product and then they will flash a # on the screen. The batch #'s or whatever it's being called is a way to pinpoint where and when a product originated from. It provides provenance.
If they had meant something, Pharmacom could have posted an announcement on the website about the dbol that sucked. It could have posted batch # so and so is recalled etc etc.
Smoke and mirrors. Frank posted that video I didn't watch. I tried to read his post just before or just after that video but it was ridiculously long and made even less sense with the language barrier. The perfect PR guy for UGL pretending to be something they aren't.
When a question like yours is posed, they can point to that post and tell you all the answers you're looking for can be found there.
@Pharmacom Labs
Explain the batch code being the same for different compounds please.
A good explanation is needed.
Explanation is very simple. Yes, batches are equal on vials. This let us know, which powder is in each vial. All posts here just show that you don`t imagine how this work and still compare us with small home brewers which have can buy 1 kg of raws and make a couple hundreds vials with a nominal batch number.
Pharmacom is a big company, we don`t buy raws per 1 kg or even per 10 kg. We don`t buy only one powder for once. If we place an order for raws, these are hundreds of kilograms for each product and lot of products ordered for once. Our regular bulk order of raws is worth 500 000$ or higher as a rule.
We work all the time of Pharmacom Labs existence only with one raws supplier and don`t switch to others, if he does not have something we need. Now for example he has issues with producing raws for halo, injectable dbol. We could easily switch to another supplier, buy raws, produce final products and push them to the market within a couple of days. We would probably do this if we thought only about how to get profit. There are lot of other raws suppliers. However we have been waiting for weeks! This is not for nothing and proves we are responsible for quality and take care of our customers. If somebody does not believe into this, this is his own unfounded point, everyone can think whatever he wants.
Back to batch numbers. As I said we order raws not one by one, but lot of them within one bulk order. Just for example, today we buy say test p, test deca, test phenyl, nandrolone phenyl, tren h and dbol. All of them get a … how to call this in English… purchasing number. This number is in fact the batch number we use on vials. So raws purchasing number = final products batch number.
Why do we need this? Very simple, this allows us to know which raws we use in which vials.
Production technology is equal in all cases! High-accuracy Siemens production line allows manufacturing products with the same settings. All final products are manufactured in one and the same way by one and the same technology at one and the same Siemens equipment. This universal industrial decision allows to avoid lot of troubles and fully automate the process. Respectively the only thing which can influence the quality of products is … correct, raws. If somebody says makes a mass spec of our say mast p and it shows some discrepancy we always can check what is the purchasing = batch number on the vial and find out what batch of raws has been used exactly in this vial. This is all we need to know in fact. All other factors stays equal and can be checked in production logs. Siemens automation allows to check any log at any minute of any production process for last years. This info + info about raws batch is absolutely enough to analyze virtually any possible issue, if something comes out. Raws are also checked by mass spec or by a chromotograph to be more precisely. I mentioned this also already several times, however some of you don`t believe into it. This is already your decision.
By the way
here are results for one of our last raws batches.
For most of you these result tell nothing. Moreover they are in Chinese. We are looking for a way to perform tests and get results in English. If we succeed we will publish them regularly. We are working on it. Someone told here once no one UGL analyses raws and no one UGL will ever post such results cause there is no… We will show you how by far not right you are...
All of final products made from these raws will also have the same batch number, But we know what does it mean. Batch number is foreseen first of all for us. For you it shall mean nothing, to prove authenticity we have check codes. In a while you will see new design of our labels with implemented protection codes.
But if you have no intention of helping the cause because your " suspicious" or if your one of those guys thats gonna leach off the rest of us, well then i dont give a shit what you are "suspicious" of.
You just said what I meant before. If someone sees an objective lab result, which does not agree with his subjective expectations how he shall feel by taking this drug, results get suspicious for him.
Pharmacom has a crazy production facility, real cool. I remember from this thread that Pharmacom produces batches in 100 litres or something. Is all that oil in one big container? Is it possible for the oil to be differently dosed in the container if left sitting without mixing regularly? Just wondering.
Anyway, I tried Pharmacom Test-E 300mg/ml some months ago, it was good.
Exactly, 100 ml is a minimum volume. We produce in higher amounts as a rule. And yes, I also don`t understand how oil can be differently dosed in this case. I have already given an example with a coffee machine above. Nobody from those blaming us in selective scamming was able to give me an answer to this question. Just wondering as well.
Labmax up for mast p, test e, test p, tren a in the testing forum. Mast p and tren are weak passes. Test p is a fail. Test e is barely a pass. Really disappointing.
I don1t think so.
Frank will be here any minute to claim Labmax means nothing and that there are a bunch of reviews on other forums (that he pays to be a source on) from people who say this stuff is all good to go.
xDD)) You are almost right man! Look yourself: Mythotik labmaxed our test p and it failed… He took blood being on cycle with the same test p and it showed a perfect result. Isn`t it the exact and direct evidence, that labmax is not reliable?!! As for me the answer is obvious. There is just nothing to add here more. I never trusted labmax and we all got an undeniable proof of its inaccuracy. Too many things in the final product have an impact on it.
Is it normal for you order to disappear from the website after paying? Had some Tbol ordered, and now the order isn't even on the website. What gives?
Guys, I remind you once again: our store automatically deletes orders after 5 days if no payment info has been added in your account! All instructions how to do it are sent to everyone in an email after you confirm order. If there is no payment info within 5 days, order will be deleted. 5 days is more than enough to pay. We did it for convenience of all customers. If someone places an order, items in this order are taken out of the stock. For example someone ordered last 2 vials of tren a. They are not in stock anymore. However if there is no payment info within 5 days, this order will be deleted by our store and all ordered items get in stock again. You will be again able to order them. In this way we almost always ensure all items in stock in our store are indeed in stock in our warehouse. There will be no situations, when you order anavar, our store shows it is available, but in fact it is not.
If an item is not in stock, you will see a notify button. Click on it, enter your email and once this item is in stock you will be immediately informed about it! Below are screenshots of how it works:
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Dude, if the source is mainly international you need to order international. Domestic "reshippers" get the stuff in big jugs then bottle into vials AFTER they cut your shit..
Dude I have already mentioned this lot of times, we never send oil in big jugs to anybody. We take full responsibility for the contents and health safety. What you say is impossible. However I admit it is preferably for us you to place orders in the international section. I tell it honestly: we just have a higher profit if you order directly. Business.
I had a similar experience. Placed an order on June 30th. WU was within the hour. Put in the info requested and waited for a couple days while my dashboard said "waiting for payment." Checked to see if funds had been picked up this morning and decided to re-submit the WU info after it stated funds had not been received. Waiting to hear back from Frank...
I will contact you, i can`t remember now this situation, but we solve it in any case if it is still acute.
You know the logo on the vials is different on some. Not the paper label the actual logo burn on the vial. Some are black others have blue logo.And the scratch off is different on some as well. Some have a fat wide one other gave a long skinny one. I do wonder what's that is about.
These are just changes in our production. I have already mention before and in this again long message we are going to change design of our labels. Also these stamps are changed. Just check vials on this video:
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And on the latest one:
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They are different as you can see. Just some design changes.
Are you logged into the right store?
Each store section has a different shopping cart/order history.
Confused me when I placed an int'l order after a domestic and my domestic order wasn't in there.
I'd be willing to bet that's the issue. If you ordered international and the next time you go to the website it is on domestic or EU and you log in it will only show your orders from that section of the site. It happened to me once. I left the WU office and was in my car in the parking lot and logged in on my phone to put in the MTCN# and the info wasnt there. Of course i freaked. When I got home and picked up my tablet all was well and I noticed the domestic icon in the upper right part of the page on my phone vs. the international icon on the tablet.
Pharmacom is too active. They're not going anywhere.
Exactly. Our stores have different databases. If you placed an order in the International section please make sure you are adding payment info also in the international section.
Username and passwords are the same, you can you the same credentials to sign in both in the international and in the US domestic section.
Also customers who has at least one order will be able to see PayPal info to pay. But this order shall be done exactly in the section where you are placing the current order. If you have an order made in the US domestic section and now place a new order in the international section, you will not see PayPal as payment option this time. But after this. The next time you will.
This is a shortcoming of different databases. Unfortunately we could not do it in other way. However you can always contact me and we solve all issues.
I have made a few orders with frank and it seems to vary on how long it takes to get tracking number. Having said that two orders ago by the time i got my number it had been a little over a week, but when i checked it the pack had already made it through san- fran and was at my pad 2 days later!
Took almost 2 weeks for one order
I can`t reveal you all details, I say just that for safety reasons we provide tracking numbers not immediately, but in a while after order is shipped. Usually after 5-6 days. This does not delay your delivery, this is just our safety precaution. Also I all the time get mails and customer ask to provide tracking numbers. Guys, there is no need to send such emails. I will not be able to provide tracking numbers until I get them from our shipper. Once I get them, I put them into the store and you get automated emails each customer for his order. So you get your tracking numbers in any case, no need to ask. If say 10 days passed and there is still no tracking number, ok, this is a good reason to ask. But generally I reply all such questions in a standard way as described abode.
Any ETA on the injectable oxandrolone? Orals do really fuck up my stomach, would love to try some good injectable oxandrolone
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@Pharmacom Labs
We have some technological issues with it. It is not so eat to melt its raws. Have undesirebale side effects now and it gets into crystals. Working on it.I can`t promise anything now.
@Pharmacom Labs
And the dbol inject. Been out for awhile.
Wу are waiting for our raws supplier. Have been promised to get it soon.
Update on my order situation: Been 11 days since my order, website has not updated with any information (still says no orders placed). I paid via paypal (next day) to the address given through PM via Frank.
I have PMd Frank 2 times since my order without a response (with adequate time in between for response) expressing my concern with no order being shown, no confirmation of my payment, no emails... Literally nothing since I made payment.
I am by no means calling Frank out, just updating my situation from my last post (when seeing others were also getting the "no orders made" in their dashboard.
I just need to know that it will be coming is all, and kinda when I can expect it so I can set up the timing of my next cycle around my "life duties". It sucks getting no responses back via PM or this thread, and being left hanging.
Well, i have already replied you in PM yesterday. This is a strange situation. I asked Mailin to provide me order number to check what is wrong with the order. He replied he has no order number. He never confirmed it and never received an email with it. So… this means in fact he did not place an order. Our store always send emails with payment info and order number to an email indicated during the ordering procedure. Even if we assume there was a bug and this email did not come you should have seen order number on the confirmation page at the check-out and this order shall be in our system. Even if it was deleted after five days or by any other reason I would find it deleted orders. But there is no… which means only once, Man, you did not place an order in fact….
We had no order and we could not proceed it, it is clear. I asked you to place a new order, provide me its number and this issue will be solved. Sorry for inconvenience!
--- The hyperlink to US section wasn't working at all, hand to manually type is .us. Then there were issues with the cart, the quantity sections, and a few other minor things. I just rechecked now, and I do not see anything acting up anymore though. Either way though, he never received my message via email through the website. I guess I could try again... but I am not trying to be "that guy" and annoy the dude till I get a response lol.
Wait patiently, I will.
For several hours hyperlink to US section was not working, we were implementing some modifications into our store. Now it is fully functioning. Also yes, I really never received your messages though the email from the box you gave me. Except the first message in the end of June…I have made a ticket for our programmers to check, where could be a problem, but everything looks fine. No problem, you can try again and address any time, I reply as fast as I can.
If I remember there was some debate in another forum as to whether your facilities really are what you claim. One person even claimed those photos of equipment/facilities could have been hired out for the day.
Why don't you fly out a well respected well known member from here to see your production and quality first hand?
I just cannot imagine how we could hire out a production facility just for a day. This idea sonds for me insane. We are not going to invite somebody cause this is just crazy, we don`t know anybody here personally and all this is a huge risk. Just impossible. We provided here by times more evidences and info as any other lab ever. This is more than enough.
Communication used to be good, but lately not so much!!! Been waiting 4-5 days still no response from frank or the site message.
Oh well ill move on.
I am very sorry again for this. I am back and this will not happen again.
I am open to all questions and ready to help.
