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Say what? There is NO EVIDENCE Nandrolone diminishes joint symptoms any more than a multitude of AAS which result in fluid retention?
Bc that's a fact, but if you know of any evidence to the contrary if love to see it.
Bc that's a fact, but if you know of any evidence to the contrary if love to see it.
Oh and incidentally wasn't this same PHC shill criticizing LM for being UNRELIABLE earlier bc it FAILED a TT test you conducted yet the LM result was later refuted by "perfect" blood testing.
However since his Nandrolone passed your LM assay he embraces that result?
Yep! Sorry that type of double standard just doesn't fly on Meso Myth IMO!
However since his Nandrolone passed your LM assay he embraces that result?
Yep! Sorry that type of double standard just doesn't fly on Meso Myth IMO!
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Well... you are carping about words. ok, i fully agree here with you. This is your native language and you know it much better as me, no doubts. I would like to ask another question. And i am absolutely seriously now. What is a gtg? I mean which exactly criteria a compound shall match in order you or anybody here would consider it as gtg? I would be very thankful if you provide me any info or a link, where I can find exact criteria, which can be estimated objectively. Say if I would... ok, not me, say some independent person (having no profits both positive or negative outcome) perform a mass spectrometry of our nandrolone phenyl within 12 month, say 12 analyses. Let`s assume all 12 essays resulted positive and showed manifested 100 mg/ml.
Would it be enough to consider a product, exactly this product as gtg?
I am not defending now, this is just a conversation and I am trying to understand what you guys do really expect.
And to be honest, keeping in my head all i have read here for the time being presented on the board, I come primarily only to one inference. It is generally impossible that an underground lab was accepted as gtg. Right? There are lots of reason and you all know them starting from inconstancy of supplied raws quality and unproper production monitoring/control and finishing with distribution shortcomings (possible big jags through the custom, resticked labels, counterfeiting, etc.). Just to make it clear, I am speaking not about Pharmacom, i meant it generally, what is typical for an UGL.
Considering this i can only assume, that a lab can be considered by you guys as gtg only if it is fully open for you and you can get evidences at each step of the production, raws, final products, finally even distribution net (photos that vials were delivered really closed, were not opened, oil was not in big jars), etc. In fact this means a fully opened production and distribution process, where you can control/monitor each step.
Am I thinking in the right direction at least?
But agree, we all know understand at the same time, what we are doing with. The stuff is outside the law and full control and cooperation is just not possible and very risky for both - sellers first of all and you as customers.
We really tried to provide evidences as far as we could without disclosing us. You don`t believe them generally. Lot of you don`t trust videos i posted. At least i got such impression. I also published hplc results here. Generally i got an impression that you don`t believe or let`s call it consider with high caution any/all evidences we provide. I also heard that not many here will take seriously any info a source provides cause source is interested in proving he is legit so he can counterfeit evidences. Don`t trust sources.
On the other hand you say a source shall provide all evidences, that this source is legit! Agree, all i said above was mentioned here in this thread, even several times.
Now let`s look at this situation abstractly from above.
Situation is absolutely mutually contradictory. Really. Source shall prove it is legit, but it does not matter what a source shows or provides, we can not really trust it.
So... what is the way out?! While summing up, i suppose an ugl in fact just can not be considered as gtg for first of all lack of full control from your side or from any monitoring facility. Am I right? Guys I would really like to hear you opinion about this.
I could write again something long and hardly understandable for you on my broken english, but this will be senseless and brings nothing at all. In fact there is only one way, hplc/mass spectromety of this definite nandrolone vial. Only it shows the truth whether it is nandrolone there or test p how some of you think based on high testosterone serum levels.
Dr.JIM, i did not said about nandrolone, which passed LM, etc.
You are right again, there are no double standards. I never said look, nandrolone passed LM sucesfully, hence we have legit nandrolone. I never ever said something like this.
My personal position was always one and the same: i really think, that labmax is not a reliable way to prove whether a final steroid (final product = steroid in oil) is legit or not. Even if you show me a labmax, where our nandrolone passed, I still repeat you the same, i personally don`t find LM a trustworthy method of steroid analyzing.
Also if I remember right you published in one of the threads a protocol or something like this, how a reliable lab max test shall be performed. This protocol hat lot of items, one of them, the first one, was: a subject to test shall be raws! Not final products.
GSO, BA/BB, ethyl-oleate, other stuff, all this and other things inclusive experience of the tester have an definite impact on the test results. This is obvious.
There is a very simple example. I will now mention it if we speak about LabMaxing.
Mythotik labmaxed our test p. it failed. this could be a reason for lot of members here to draw a conclusion that our test p is shit. don`t use it. Further Mythotik performed a blood work and it showed a perfect testosterone level in blood stream. This is a result opposite to LabMax. Which result is in this case more trustworthy? As for me this is blood work. However it shall be done also properly. In one of the threads I saw results of a guy on our Mix 1. 400 mg per week if i remember right and result were low... but we all know there are many factors and rules. If you inject 400 mg once per week it shows one result, if you inject 2x200 mg - this is another result. Injection site, methabolism, other things...
What I am trying to say, I just want results to be reliable.
I am already finishing my post. Just let me publish this picture. I found a link to this blood work result today on one of russian boards. Just look here...
This is test p 100 mg EOD. Test serum is 15670 ng / dl!!!!! High reference limit is 1138 ng / dl. Result double-checked!
Does somebody from you believe into this? I doubt. It would be just impossible to put THAT amount of test into one ml to create this level.
Some results like blood works or especially lab max are not always correct. But a failed labmax test can frighten possible customers off to buy a product, however a product could be still good. I used the word - buy - you can say again - money, you are interested in profit only, etc. I don`t agree here with you. Yes, profit is required to exist, our world is organized so that we all need money to buy food, etc. Or we just die. I just say one thing in the end, which you might consider sceptically, but some of you will understand me. If a company (does not matter what it is dealing with) achieves a certain level and comes to a world wide arena (even if this is an underground arena), views/world views and priorities of people responsible for developing of this company changes. The mere fact of just gaining money/profit is not playing the leading role anymore. I get pretty lot messages on all boards and per email and people ask me, when is injectable anavar or mix5 or something else available. Guys, we have ties in China and we know all main raws suppliers there. If we were thinking only about profits, our store would be always full. You don`t know this, but now we don`t have test e in stock, It is available a bit for international orders, but we don`t have it at all for bulk orders. I have now 4 pretty big bulk orders pending and several orders cancelled because it is missing. We depend here on our raws supplier. We work always only with one supplier. All the time. Test e is generally one of the most popular steroids and we could easily buy it from another source, melt in il, produce final products, they could be even good. However we wait for our trusted source. I can`t reveal all info, but i do really believe it provides a better quality against others. And we have results. But this is another subject.I only wanted to tell the following: if you think we will do all only to sell you our products and get your money by any possible way, you are deeply mistaken.
If somebody form guys, who emailed and asked advices regarding cycles, is reading this, he can confirm, how i advised not to use a more expensive tren, hower i could advice it. Or when I recommended to take a compound out of a cycle cause based on the info i receiveв from a customer and my personal experience as a bodybuilder the third drug was just not required, etc. Lot of similar examples.
So, we are interested to become popular all over the world, yes, sure. We are struggling to be steroid manufacturer Nr. 1 in the world, surely. We are looking for money? Stupid to deny this, in other case we will not be able to develop. So yes, we do. But not by all means and not by providing poor quality and playing with your health.
While being an employee of Pharmacom Labs I am also a devoted customer of Pharmacom Labs. I don`t think I would use this gear, if I had any tiniest doubts in this...
Ate the really last thing: i`d like to underline once again, we are in no way against gear testing. UGL market is what it is. Labs shall be checked, sure. I fully understand you all when you publish results. But results shall be reliable. I hope Millard succeeds with the program, which seem for me the only real trustworthy way to check labs properly. We support this project, which I also recommend to do to everyone of you. If everyone donates at least 10 dollars per month he/she loses in fact nothing, but considering number of people on the board donations will be very significant!
And this testing, HPLC is really what we can rely on! For sure much much better as LabMax.
That`s all now. A bit much philosophy today probably. So.. has kind of a sophisticated mood now.
And sorry guys for my poor english and typing your eyes off!
I will change... some day...
I typed this fast and did not double check at all. But i do really need to have a good nap now.
Cheers!
johnnyBALLZ
Well-known Member
Well... you are carping about words. ok, i fully agree here with you. This is your native language and you know it much better as me, no doubts. I would like to ask another question. And i am absolutely seriously now. What is a gtg? I mean which exactly criteria a compound shall match in order you or anybody here would consider it as gtg? I would be very thankful if you provide me any info or a link, where I can find exact criteria, which can be estimated objectively. Say if I would... ok, not me, say some independent person (having no profits both positive or negative outcome) perform a mass spectrometry of our nandrolone phenyl within 12 month, say 12 analyses. Let`s assume all 12 essays resulted positive and showed manifested 100 mg/ml.
Would it be enough to consider a product, exactly this product as gtg?
I am not defending now, this is just a conversation and I am trying to understand what you guys do really expect.
And to be honest, keeping in my head all i have read here for the time being presented on the board, I come primarily only to one inference. It is generally impossible that an underground lab was accepted as gtg. Right? There are lots of reason and you all know them starting from inconstancy of supplied raws quality and unproper production monitoring/control and finishing with distribution shortcomings (possible big jags through the custom, resticked labels, counterfeiting, etc.). Just to make it clear, I am speaking not about Pharmacom, i meant it generally, what is typical for an UGL.
Considering this i can only assume, that a lab can be considered by you guys as gtg only if it is fully open for you and you can get evidences at each step of the production, raws, final products, finally even distribution net (photos that vials were delivered really closed, were not opened, oil was not in big jars), etc. In fact this means a fully opened production and distribution process, where you can control/monitor each step.
Am I thinking in the right direction at least?
But agree, we all know understand at the same time, what we are doing with. The stuff is outside the law and full control and cooperation is just not possible and very risky for both - sellers first of all and you as customers.
We really tried to provide evidences as far as we could without disclosing us. You don`t believe them generally. Lot of you don`t trust videos i posted. At least i got such impression. I also published hplc results here. Generally i got an impression that you don`t believe or let`s call it consider with high caution any/all evidences we provide. I also heard that not many here will take seriously any info a source provides cause source is interested in proving he is legit so he can counterfeit evidences. Don`t trust sources.
On the other hand you say a source shall provide all evidences, that this source is legit! Agree, all i said above was mentioned here in this thread, even several times.
Now let`s look at this situation abstractly from above.
Situation is absolutely mutually contradictory. Really. Source shall prove it is legit, but it does not matter what a source shows or provides, we can not really trust it.
So... what is the way out?! While summing up, i suppose an ugl in fact just can not be considered as gtg for first of all lack of full control from your side or from any monitoring facility. Am I right? Guys I would really like to hear you opinion about this.
I could write again something long and hardly understandable for you on my broken english, but this will be senseless and brings nothing at all. In fact there is only one way, hplc/mass spectromety of this definite nandrolone vial. Only it shows the truth whether it is nandrolone there or test p how some of you think based on high testosterone serum levels.
Dr.JIM, i did not said about nandrolone, which passed LM, etc.
You are right again, there are no double standards. I never said look, nandrolone passed LM sucesfully, hence we have legit nandrolone. I never ever said something like this.
My personal position was always one and the same: i really think, that labmax is not a reliable way to prove whether a final steroid (final product = steroid in oil) is legit or not. Even if you show me a labmax, where our nandrolone passed, I still repeat you the same, i personally don`t find LM a trustworthy method of steroid analyzing.
Also if I remember right you published in one of the threads a protocol or something like this, how a reliable lab max test shall be performed. This protocol hat lot of items, one of them, the first one, was: a subject to test shall be raws! Not final products.
GSO, BA/BB, ethyl-oleate, other stuff, all this and other things inclusive experience of the tester have an definite impact on the test results. This is obvious.
There is a very simple example. I will now mention it if we speak about LabMaxing.
Mythotik labmaxed our test p. it failed. this could be a reason for lot of members here to draw a conclusion that our test p is shit. don`t use it. Further Mythotik performed a blood work and it showed a perfect testosterone level in blood stream. This is a result opposite to LabMax. Which result is in this case more trustworthy? As for me this is blood work. However it shall be done also properly. In one of the threads I saw results of a guy on our Mix 1. 400 mg per week if i remember right and result were low... but we all know there are many factors and rules. If you inject 400 mg once per week it shows one result, if you inject 2x200 mg - this is another result. Injection site, methabolism, other things...
What I am trying to say, I just want results to be reliable.
I am already finishing my post. Just let me publish this picture. I found a link to this blood work result today on one of russian boards. Just look here...
This is test p 100 mg EOD. Test serum is 15670 ng / dl!!!!! High reference limit is 1138 ng / dl. Result double-checked!
Does somebody from you believe into this? I doubt. It would be just impossible to put THAT amount of test into one ml to create this level.
Some results like blood works or especially lab max are not always correct. But a failed labmax test can frighten possible customers off to buy a product, however a product could be still good. I used the word - buy - you can say again - money, you are interested in profit only, etc. I don`t agree here with you. Yes, profit is required to exist, our world is organized so that we all need money to buy food, etc. Or we just die. I just say one thing in the end, which you might consider sceptically, but some of you will understand me. If a company (does not matter what it is dealing with) achieves a certain level and comes to a world wide arena (even if this is an underground arena), views/world views and priorities of people responsible for developing of this company changes. The mere fact of just gaining money/profit is not playing the leading role anymore. I get pretty lot messages on all boards and per email and people ask me, when is injectable anavar or mix5 or something else available. Guys, we have ties in China and we know all main raws suppliers there. If we were thinking only about profits, our store would be always full. You don`t know this, but now we don`t have test e in stock, It is available a bit for international orders, but we don`t have it at all for bulk orders. I have now 4 pretty big bulk orders pending and several orders cancelled because it is missing. We depend here on our raws supplier. We work always only with one supplier. All the time. Test e is generally one of the most popular steroids and we could easily buy it from another source, melt in il, produce final products, they could be even good. However we wait for our trusted source. I can`t reveal all info, but i do really believe it provides a better quality against others. And we have results. But this is another subject.I only wanted to tell the following: if you think we will do all only to sell you our products and get your money by any possible way, you are deeply mistaken.
If somebody form guys, who emailed and asked advices regarding cycles, is reading this, he can confirm, how i advised not to use a more expensive tren, hower i could advice it. Or when I recommended to take a compound out of a cycle cause based on the info i receiveв from a customer and my personal experience as a bodybuilder the third drug was just not required, etc. Lot of similar examples.
So, we are interested to become popular all over the world, yes, sure. We are struggling to be steroid manufacturer Nr. 1 in the world, surely. We are looking for money? Stupid to deny this, in other case we will not be able to develop. So yes, we do. But not by all means and not by providing poor quality and playing with your health.
While being an employee of Pharmacom Labs I am also a devoted customer of Pharmacom Labs. I don`t think I would use this gear, if I had any tiniest doubts in this...
Ate the really last thing: i`d like to underline once again, we are in no way against gear testing. UGL market is what it is. Labs shall be checked, sure. I fully understand you all when you publish results. But results shall be reliable. I hope Millard succeeds with the program, which seem for me the only real trustworthy way to check labs properly. We support this project, which I also recommend to do to everyone of you. If everyone donates at least 10 dollars per month he/she loses in fact nothing, but considering number of people on the board donations will be very significant!
And this testing, HPLC is really what we can rely on! For sure much much better as LabMax.
That`s all now. A bit much philosophy today probably. So.. has kind of a sophisticated mood now.
And sorry guys for my poor english and typing your eyes off!
I will change... some day...
I typed this fast and did not double check at all. But i do really need to have a good nap now.
Cheers!
Like majority of your posts, too long and I didn't read it.. Dr. Jim made some great points.. Unfortunately, most people reading this will never know your rebuttal so essentially it doesn't matter what you said!!
Stop writing 10,000 word essays as responses and get to the point.. You're wasting your time writing these novels..
What???
The labmax looked weird on the prop, nothing like the Asylum I tested, the npp passed according to labmax testing procedures and color chart...I asked the members about the prop, most agreed it didn't look right...I've ran the prop and npp for 5 weeks now with great results, good bloods as well, if I'm a schill for posting suck evidence, so be it!!! I'm not saying frank is legit, I'm saying the product I have is very good...FYI, anyone who's of my age and has ran any nondro, knows it helps joint pain...
Sorry again for trying to help the board, at least I don't walk around with a swollen head like yourself, good day Jim as this is the last time I respond to one of your inflated posts..
-Myth-
olrocko
New Member
Nandrolone lubes my creaky joints. Or maybe it's just I believe in the bro science and I want to BELIEVE that I'm lifting pain free for 12 weeks at a time while I'm running said compound.
He was referring to Pharmacon as a shill, not you. The point was that Pharmacon has a history of rejecting Labmax when his products fail and embracing it when they pass. That is the double standard.
Then I apologize for half of what I said, the rest are true and amazing facts...
That's your evidence anecdotes from AAS forums.
Try cycling other AAS that increase E-2 especially as a "stack" there is no difference.
They cause the joints to swell and that joint pain your having WILL return once that swelling subsides.
Who said you were a PHC shill Myth?
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Well... you are carping about words. ok, i fully agree here with you. This is your native language and you know it much better as me, no doubts. I would like to ask another question. And i am absolutely seriously now. What is a gtg? I mean which exactly criteria a compound shall match in order you or anybody here would consider it as gtg? I would be very thankful if you provide me any info or a link, where I can find exact criteria, which can be estimated objectively. Say if I would... ok, not me, say some independent person (having no profits both positive or negative outcome) perform a mass spectrometry of our nandrolone phenyl within 12 month, say 12 analyses. Let`s assume all 12 essays resulted positive and showed manifested 100 mg/ml.
Would it be enough to consider a product, exactly this product as gtg?
I am not defending now, this is just a conversation and I am trying to understand what you guys do really expect.
And to be honest, keeping in my head all i have read here for the time being presented on the board, I come primarily only to one inference. It is generally impossible that an underground lab was accepted as gtg. Right? There are lots of reason and you all know them starting from inconstancy of supplied raws quality and unproper production monitoring/control and finishing with distribution shortcomings (possible big jags through the custom, resticked labels, counterfeiting, etc.). Just to make it clear, I am speaking not about Pharmacom, i meant it generally, what is typical for an UGL.
Considering this i can only assume, that a lab can be considered by you guys as gtg only if it is fully open for you and you can get evidences at each step of the production, raws, final products, finally even distribution net (photos that vials were delivered really closed, were not opened, oil was not in big jars), etc. In fact this means a fully opened production and distribution process, where you can control/monitor each step.
Am I thinking in the right direction at least?
But agree, we all know understand at the same time, what we are doing with. The stuff is outside the law and full control and cooperation is just not possible and very risky for both - sellers first of all and you as customers.
We really tried to provide evidences as far as we could without disclosing us. You don`t believe them generally. Lot of you don`t trust videos i posted. At least i got such impression. I also published hplc results here. Generally i got an impression that you don`t believe or let`s call it consider with high caution any/all evidences we provide. I also heard that not many here will take seriously any info a source provides cause source is interested in proving he is legit so he can counterfeit evidences. Don`t trust sources.
On the other hand you say a source shall provide all evidences, that this source is legit! Agree, all i said above was mentioned here in this thread, even several times.
Now let`s look at this situation abstractly from above.
Situation is absolutely mutually contradictory. Really. Source shall prove it is legit, but it does not matter what a source shows or provides, we can not really trust it.
So... what is the way out?! While summing up, i suppose an ugl in fact just can not be considered as gtg for first of all lack of full control from your side or from any monitoring facility. Am I right? Guys I would really like to hear you opinion about this.
I could write again something long and hardly understandable for you on my broken english, but this will be senseless and brings nothing at all. In fact there is only one way, hplc/mass spectromety of this definite nandrolone vial. Only it shows the truth whether it is nandrolone there or test p how some of you think based on high testosterone serum levels.
Dr.JIM, i did not said about nandrolone, which passed LM, etc.
You are right again, there are no double standards. I never said look, nandrolone passed LM sucesfully, hence we have legit nandrolone. I never ever said something like this.
My personal position was always one and the same: i really think, that labmax is not a reliable way to prove whether a final steroid (final product = steroid in oil) is legit or not. Even if you show me a labmax, where our nandrolone passed, I still repeat you the same, i personally don`t find LM a trustworthy method of steroid analyzing.
Also if I remember right you published in one of the threads a protocol or something like this, how a reliable lab max test shall be performed. This protocol hat lot of items, one of them, the first one, was: a subject to test shall be raws! Not final products.
GSO, BA/BB, ethyl-oleate, other stuff, all this and other things inclusive experience of the tester have an definite impact on the test results. This is obvious.
There is a very simple example. I will now mention it if we speak about LabMaxing.
Mythotik labmaxed our test p. it failed. this could be a reason for lot of members here to draw a conclusion that our test p is shit. don`t use it. Further Mythotik performed a blood work and it showed a perfect testosterone level in blood stream. This is a result opposite to LabMax. Which result is in this case more trustworthy? As for me this is blood work. However it shall be done also properly. In one of the threads I saw results of a guy on our Mix 1. 400 mg per week if i remember right and result were low... but we all know there are many factors and rules. If you inject 400 mg once per week it shows one result, if you inject 2x200 mg - this is another result. Injection site, methabolism, other things...
What I am trying to say, I just want results to be reliable.
I am already finishing my post. Just let me publish this picture. I found a link to this blood work result today on one of russian boards. Just look here...
This is test p 100 mg EOD. Test serum is 15670 ng / dl!!!!! High reference limit is 1138 ng / dl. Result double-checked!
Does somebody from you believe into this? I doubt. It would be just impossible to put THAT amount of test into one ml to create this level.
Some results like blood works or especially lab max are not always correct. But a failed labmax test can frighten possible customers off to buy a product, however a product could be still good. I used the word - buy - you can say again - money, you are interested in profit only, etc. I don`t agree here with you. Yes, profit is required to exist, our world is organized so that we all need money to buy food, etc. Or we just die. I just say one thing in the end, which you might consider sceptically, but some of you will understand me. If a company (does not matter what it is dealing with) achieves a certain level and comes to a world wide arena (even if this is an underground arena), views/world views and priorities of people responsible for developing of this company changes. The mere fact of just gaining money/profit is not playing the leading role anymore. I get pretty lot messages on all boards and per email and people ask me, when is injectable anavar or mix5 or something else available. Guys, we have ties in China and we know all main raws suppliers there. If we were thinking only about profits, our store would be always full. You don`t know this, but now we don`t have test e in stock, It is available a bit for international orders, but we don`t have it at all for bulk orders. I have now 4 pretty big bulk orders pending and several orders cancelled because it is missing. We depend here on our raws supplier. We work always only with one supplier. All the time. Test e is generally one of the most popular steroids and we could easily buy it from another source, melt in il, produce final products, they could be even good. However we wait for our trusted source. I can`t reveal all info, but i do really believe it provides a better quality against others. And we have results. But this is another subject.I only wanted to tell the following: if you think we will do all only to sell you our products and get your money by any possible way, you are deeply mistaken.
If somebody form guys, who emailed and asked advices regarding cycles, is reading this, he can confirm, how i advised not to use a more expensive tren, hower i could advice it. Or when I recommended to take a compound out of a cycle cause based on the info i receiveв from a customer and my personal experience as a bodybuilder the third drug was just not required, etc. Lot of similar examples.
So, we are interested to become popular all over the world, yes, sure. We are struggling to be steroid manufacturer Nr. 1 in the world, surely. We are looking for money? Stupid to deny this, in other case we will not be able to develop. So yes, we do. But not by all means and not by providing poor quality and playing with your health.
While being an employee of Pharmacom Labs I am also a devoted customer of Pharmacom Labs. I don`t think I would use this gear, if I had any tiniest doubts in this...
Ate the really last thing: i`d like to underline once again, we are in no way against gear testing. UGL market is what it is. Labs shall be checked, sure. I fully understand you all when you publish results. But results shall be reliable. I hope Millard succeeds with the program, which seem for me the only real trustworthy way to check labs properly. We support this project, which I also recommend to do to everyone of you. If everyone donates at least 10 dollars per month he/she loses in fact nothing, but considering number of people on the board donations will be very significant!
And this testing, HPLC is really what we can rely on! For sure much much better as LabMax.
That`s all now. A bit much philosophy today probably. So.. has kind of a sophisticated mood now.
And sorry guys for my poor english and typing your eyes off!
I will change... some day...
I typed this fast and did not double check at all. But i do really need to have a good nap now.
Cheers!
LMAO!
If anyone wants or needs more than one reason to use Darius IF you choose to order from PHC, this shill has given you plenty. (That does not mean I endorse PHC, period!)
I read too fast most times, skimming and my brain only picks up certain things, my bad :/
jim-bo...your just a na-sayer.....thts your MO....all you do. dont you ever shut up? your not even a real doctor.
big deal...the guy said it helps jionts...deca does nothing for jionts for me.....you are just nit-piking and looking for fights.
one of the members here just got scammed by another member here in another thread...go focus your energy there
Mofotyler
New Member
Well for me a UGL is not gtg in general. Far as I will go is this vial I just got is working great and gtg. The next vial from same order is not gtg in my mind till its ran.
The fight here involves an untold amounts of money now and in the future and who knows how many people. Just as when Karl was attempting to run his game here, the Doc was on the front lines. This is where he belongs.
The thread you refer to is where a pimply faced retard got over on 2 or 3 guys for a grand total of $400. The scam is over. This thread is like the heavy weight fight on pay per view with the top fighters with the biggest purse up for grabs. The other thread is like 2 middle school kids meeting next to the jungle gym at recess. You're good Doc.
Mailin
New Member
--- Yo d-red, I'm really happy for you, I'll let you finish, but Dr JIM has some of the best advice of all time. Some of the best advice of all time!
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Sure...you have hundreds to thousands of vials of each compound being made, and your only method of tracking potential issues is the purchase order # from bulk raws for multiple compounds.
The first 1kg of Test E raw powder might be good...but the second 1kg of Test E powder, bought under the same purchase order, might not be.
So you're not tracking Test E batch to batch, you're tracking ALL of your Test E based on a huge amount of raws shipped along with multiple other compounds. Half the batch of Test E might be good and the other half might not be, and it all has the same batch #.
Get it now?
Johnb49e
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Well to maybe lighten the mood in here a little bit. 
just wanted to say my pack landed. Wanted to update since I posted last week I was having some tracking issues and not getting a response but all is good now, proceed with the arguments, I enjoy reading them.
just wanted to say my pack landed. Wanted to update since I posted last week I was having some tracking issues and not getting a response but all is good now, proceed with the arguments, I enjoy reading them.
in this post i asked questions which are important for regular customers. I asked them before as well. And never got replies.Like majority of your posts, too long and I didn't read it.. Dr. Jim made some great points.. Unfortunately, most people reading this will never know your rebuttal so essentially it doesn't matter what you said!!
Stop writing 10,000 word essays as responses and get to the point.. You're wasting your time writing these novels..
There is a grain of sense in what i am saying even despite my not perfect english. All you (not you personally) do is just whether ignorance or just inability to provide a reasonable and founded reply. I was trying to set conversation in a right and a friendly direction as well as expected some replies. Everyone can see what i got in reply.
This is lie and you are whether lying now or just don`t read what i write and don`t care at all. I never ever accepted labmax results. Absolutely independent on whether it was positive or not. I always manifested LabMax is not able to provide a reliable result for final products. All you say or DR. JIM said in last posts is absolutely not correct, you just made this up. Pharmacom has a history of rejecting Labmax.Point. Second part of this message is fabricated. Before you starting objecting don`t forget to find and quote at least one example, where I was embracing our products if the passed Labmax! I did it with Simec results, yes, as well as I lot of times mentioned I admit both results from Simec negative and positive, which I in fact did!
I keep my word and know what i say. I leave all you speculations for judgment of wide audience. I have nothing to say more.
Very smart comment, bravo. I considered you to be a more wise opponent, with whom I really could discuss some questions bothering all here. It looks like I was not right. It`s a pity.
Nobody reads what you write. Your rambling posts are too long.
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