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[PHL Official]

Sure...you have hundreds to thousands of vials of each compound being made, and your only method of tracking potential issues is the purchase order # from bulk raws for multiple compounds.

The first 1kg of Test E raw powder might be good...but the second 1kg of Test E powder, bought under the same purchase order, might not be.

So you're not tracking Test E batch to batch, you're tracking ALL of your Test E based on a huge amount of raws shipped along with multiple other compounds. Half the batch of Test E might be good and the other half might not be, and it all has the same batch #.

Get it now?

you are not right. maybe cause you don`t imagine how manufacturing process occurs.
first of all, this is even not an argument, this is just a common sense. If our only raws supplier would provide us bank raws it would become known in a while and he would lose all his profits. No one person, whos brain is working a bit at least, would ruin his own business established within lot of years. In principle this would be already enough to reply. However i continue. At any moment of production in any minute we can take a sample of raws or final products and test them. What we also do. As per conditions of our agreement if we find at least one sample bunk, he immediately supplies us a new full batch, with is lot of hundreds thousands dollars. Only an idiot will take such risks. Finally i have already given an example with a coffee machine. Maybe I express my thoughts not very clear, I can repeat in this case. If you take a pack with coffee and put it into cofee machine, put water there, you have as result ready coffee with a constant concentration of coffee itself, which you can pour in one cap, another, third, etc. In all caps will be the same coffee with the same contents. If we produce a product, we have a huge closed specially equipped tank, we fill it with oil and put required amount of raws to there. Amounts are calculated by computer. After this oil is mixed, raws melted, additional stuff is added, but as result you get a huge tank with oil and a constant concentration of raws melted in this oil. And guess what? if some of raws we used were bunk, it could be easily calculated considering our set-points in software and real values. If more than 10% tolerance is violated, think our raws supplier lost half a million dollars as minimum. Only an idiot will be trying to save money if risks are much higher.
We don`t need to prove each kilogram of raws. We do one test as pretesting to see that the labeled compound is indeed this compound, no labels are mixes up, etc. The main sample is taken from a big tank before vials are filled with oil.
Sorry, but your post only shows that you don`t quite imagine, how the process works. I don`t blame you, but also don`t accuse us to in stupid control measures, if you did not see how they work.

 

[PHL Official]

Well for me a UGL is not gtg in general. Far as I will go is this vial I just got is working great and gtg. The next vial from same order is not gtg in my mind till its ran.

Thanks for sharing you point of view. This is exactly what i assumed in my last long post. Lot of members will never accept an ugl as gtg because they can`t fully control ugl`s production cycle and distribution network. Actually the same with pharm-grade companies, but there you have some standards and just believe them.
For the same reason there would be not much sense for an ugl lab trying to provide any evidences, cause even the most reliable of them will be ignored and reaction is only one: ok, even if this definite sample is more or less ok, it absolutely can not be applied to all vials with this product. Especially ridiculous look statement like - a source shall prove his gear is legit - but at the same time nobody cares what are you trying to prove, your evidences are by default untrustworthy. Only because you are a source.
It reminds me about old time and stupid precautions like you can`t do anything only cause you are a women or you are dark-skinned, etc. Also very funny to see how people don`t feel what they expected, but see test results proving stuff it real, and start considering these results strange... i still remember a guy who claimed our adex is underdosed cause he had itchy nipples and lumps, whereas a blood work showed estradiol level lower as low reference limit.
When estimating some of members here from a side one can come only to one conclusion: some members just don`t wanna gear to be good.
Also do you like it or not, but we all have one and the same hobby and visit similar boards only by one reason. Fuck it, do you think i wouldn`t use pharmagrade gear all the time if it was possible? Of course i would. I would use only it. But it is not real. Yes one can find some main compounds for human use, but lot of them are just not intended for human use and never will be produced officially. We have to use what we can. However if this would be possible, I am sure Pharmacom would be able to get a real license for producing. By the way, in Russia we have an open project, collecting signatures and there are guys pushing this initiative. And we already have first success, there appeared a store official drug store, where you can come and absolutely officially order testosterone, nandrolone, sust, proviron in high quantities, etc. without having fear you get caught by police, etc.
As for me, prohibition of steroids by law is just stupid and has no reasons at all. If i speak about steroids and law i always remember Russia. In this stupid state if you try to get at least one package of dbol or any other steroid you will be judged as per the same law article as contraband of nuclear weapon, mass weapon, radioactive stuf, etc. What a stupidity... i will never be able to get this. I finished.

 

[ROB581211]

You said that you and your boss were investigating why your tren tested as 90% in millards test instead of 99% that you claim all your product is tested to be. How did that happen? Also you said that one of your big resellers were conducting testing why haven't you put this up?

 

[DeM0NiCs]

The way that pharmacom labs rambles on in his posts remind me of a meth addict who's brain is going a million miles an hour and once he starts typing he just can't stop and on it on it goes. I've been there a few years ago, not a pretty place.. Put down the pizo and get help bro.

 

[Mofotyler]

Thanks for sharing you point of view. This is exactly what i assumed in my last long post. Lot of members will never accept an ugl as gtg because they can`t fully control ugl`s production cycle and distribution network. Actually the same with pharm-grade companies, but there you have some standards and just believe them.
For the same reason there would be not much sense for an ugl lab trying to provide any evidences, cause even the most reliable of them will be ignored and reaction is only one: ok, even if this definite sample is more or less ok, it absolutely can not be applied to all vials with this product. Especially ridiculous look statement like - a source shall prove his gear is legit - but at the same time nobody cares what are you trying to prove, your evidences are by default untrustworthy. Only because you are a source.
It reminds me about old time and stupid precautions like you can`t do anything only cause you are a women or you are dark-skinned, etc. Also very funny to see how people don`t feel what they expected, but see test results proving stuff it real, and start considering these results strange... i still remember a guy who claimed our adex is underdosed cause he had itchy nipples and lumps, whereas a blood work showed estradiol level lower as low reference limit.
When estimating some of members here from a side one can come only to one conclusion: some members just don`t wanna gear to be good.
Also do you like it or not, but we all have one and the same hobby and visit similar boards only by one reason. Fuck it, do you think i wouldn`t use pharmagrade gear all the time if it was possible? Of course i would. I would use only it. But it is not real. Yes one can find some main compounds for human use, but lot of them are just not intended for human use and never will be produced officially. We have to use what we can. However if this would be possible, I am sure Pharmacom would be able to get a real license for producing. By the way, in Russia we have an open project, collecting signatures and there are guys pushing this initiative. And we already have first success, there appeared a store official drug store, where you can come and absolutely officially order testosterone, nandrolone, sust, proviron in high quantities, etc. without having fear you get caught by police, etc.
As for me, prohibition of steroids by law is just stupid and has no reasons at all. If i speak about steroids and law i always remember Russia. In this stupid state if you try to get at least one package of dbol or any other steroid you will be judged as per the same law article as contraband of nuclear weapon, mass weapon, radioactive stuf, etc. What a stupidity... i will never be able to get this. I finished.

Well the difference with a UGL and pharmaceutical is night and day. If I go to doctor and he gets me test. I go to pharmacy and pick it up. That test I know has gone through a quality control. As well as they test each batch. There are laws in place they have to follow. If I get something mislabeled and have a bad reaction or even death they are held responsible. Then there would be millions of dollars paid in damages. For that reason they make sure what is in the vial is correct. A ugl in the other hand has no governing body. If I get a mislabeled product and all my hair falls out or i die. Nothing will happen no legal actions no lawsuit just nothing.. Might lose customers over it. Then the ugl would just close shop shortly then reopen under another name.

 

[grey]

There are laws in place they have to follow.

Spot on.

Hobbes social contract theory. This is the difference between places that can build productive societies and those that can't.

Where Hobbe's bargain is not the norm, all commerce stays miniscule because no one can trust, everything must be verified as much as possible each and every time. Try writing checks in Honduras. Take video of the reaction.

In networks with well established Hobbsean mechanics, every transaction needn't be verified because the overall system has proven trustworthy and spot checks (audits/lawsuits) are enough to keep cheaters in check.

The illegal drug market has no ability to rely on Hobbes.

 

[Mr.B66]

Spot on.

Hobbes social contract theory. This is the difference between places that can build productive societies and those that can't.

Where Hobbe's bargain is not the norm, all commerce stays miniscule because no one can trust, everything must be verified as much as possible each and every time. Try writing checks in Honduras. Take video of the reaction.

In networks with well established Hobbsean mechanics, every transaction needn't be verified because the overall system has proven trustworthy and spot checks (audits/lawsuits) are enough to keep cheaters in check.

The illegal drug market has no ability to rely on Hobbes.

Somebody went to college[emoji6]

 

[grey]

Somebody went to college[emoji6]

Naw... I am just a tool

 

[jolter604]

When are you going to make a 20 mg dbol? Or tbol? Or am I dreaming.....

 

[jolter604]

When are you going to make a 20 mg dbol? Or tbol? Or am I dreaming.....

Has anyone ran there tbol lately?

 

[nfdeilvs]

Has anyone ran there tbol lately?

Currently running it now you can check out my log

 

[stevieshredz]

When are you going to make a 20 mg dbol? Or tbol? Or am I dreaming.....

Dream big little buddy, dream big.

 

[biggerben69]

Nobody reads what you write. Your rambling posts are too long.

All hopped up on diet pills. Mothers little helper they were called.

 

[heady muscle]

Spot on.

Hobbes social contract theory. This is the difference between places that can build productive societies and those that can't.

Where Hobbe's bargain is not the norm, all commerce stays miniscule because no one can trust, everything must be verified as much as possible each and every time. Try writing checks in Honduras. Take video of the reaction.

In networks with well established Hobbsean mechanics, every transaction needn't be verified because the overall system has proven trustworthy and spot checks (audits/lawsuits) are enough to keep cheaters in check.

The illegal drug market has no ability to rely on Hobbes.

I have a minor in philosophy and was very engaged by Hobbes Social Contract Theory. Fucking first hippy! lol
http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/phl201/modules/Philosophers/Hobbes/hobbes_social_contract.html

 

[Melly Mel from hell]

If anyone has pharmacom dbol that they feel was bunk or bought around the time the bad reviews were coming in and still has the packaging could you please post the batch #. I know all the batch #'s are the same but could you humor me anyway please.

 

[NFRCR]

Pharmacom Labs, is it really so bad in Russia? I had the impression that lots of steroids come from Russia to the neighboring European countries.

 

[DeM0NiCs]

If anyone has pharmacom dbol that they feel was bunk or bought around the time the bad reviews were coming in and still has the packaging could you please post the batch #. I know all the batch #'s are the same but could you humor me anyway please.

No effect at up to 100mg a day I ended up throwing the rest into the garbage where they belong

 

[romaleos]

Does the 300/200 promo last for only one week? Ends Sunday 7/19?

By the way, actually the same, but in another form. 2 more videos with gear production porn.
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Finally one important thing:
we have some changes in our warehouse and for this reason it will be not available for one week. What does it mean? We will still accept all orders and take payments, our store works. But we will not be able to ship orders within the period from 15th of July up to 22th of July. All collected orders will be shipped out on 23rd of July. This info is valid only for our international section!
USA domestic and Europe domestic keep working as usual.
To avoid possible discontent, also considering how many emails we received with a request to continue our promo we decided to meet your wants and to launch our killer offer again. Starting from Monday early morning I launch again our promo - buy 300$ get 200$ free. I hope we compensate a week-delay with this.
Thanks for reading my long replies!

 

[Melly Mel from hell]

No effect at up to 100mg a day I ended up throwing the rest into the garbage where they belongView attachment 27131

Thanks brother. I'm starting a cycle soon and I wanted to know if I should get different dbol cause I'm not ruining my cycle with that shit.

 

[lucabratzi]

Thanks brother. I'm starting a cycle soon and I wanted to know if I should get different dbol cause I'm not ruining my cycle with that shit.

I'd at least lab max it. You never know.