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[Rudeness]

IF the actual lab itself NOT a re-seller (in our case that is what we are dealing with here in this thread) was going to send plain oil instead of TEST-E, why in the hell would they put a code on the vial to draw attention to it?

Seems obvious that it is just an error.
I would understand if it is from a re-seller, but this thread is not a re-seller -- logically speaking there would be ZERO benefit for a lab to say their own product is fake!

This would be like a counterfeiter to say to the bank teller, "hey, make sure to double check that money -- I just printed it up myself)...

People lie to gain an advantage; they do NOT lie to make trouble for themselves.
Therefore, I seriously doubt pharmacom made some bunk gear and then entered the codes into their own website data-base to state, upon being checked, that the vial is "fake." -- take a moment and think about it logically.

Now I am not saying that vial is good gear or not (I have no idea) but whether or not it is good gear makes no difference because either way (real or bunk) that actual lab that produced it would NOT purposely print a code that flags it as "fake" upon checking their own website.

So what I am urging you all to realize is that using the check-code when ordering directly from the original manufacture means NOTHING -- it does not mean it is good when its checks as "real" and it does not mean its bad when it checks as "fake."
All it returns is the response the programmer of the sources data-base associated with that value.

The utility in check codes is for cases such as buying in person from a local dealer or buying from an online "retailer" (re-seller) by being able to check if that product code was actually entered into the manufactures data-base to return the "good" response.
Even in such a case it does not mean the gear is good-to-go, it simply means that that vial has a number on it that the original manufacture has in their website data-base (thus, increasing your odds that to good or bad gear did indeed come from the manufacture that the label claims).

I could be wrong here... but read several threads where claims that PC codes did not check out.

After conversation and exchange of information, it appears that major issue was the inability to correctly read code by end-user.

IOW... When code was read correctly it did check out... or am I crazy?

 

[RThoads]

Now I see this is what you were saying. To make sure the product actually came from Pharmacom. But some people have actually thought they were ordering directly from basic and were not. This would also be a good way to make sure.

yes, I can agree with you on this point.
IF it comes back saying "good" or whatever positive output on the check, then your odds that it did come from pharmacom are increased.

However, my other point is that just because it says "fake" or "good" really has no influence upon whether or not it is good gear or bunk.

 

[Jerkthamerk]

I could be wrong here... but read several threads where claims that PC codes did not check out.

After conversation and exchange of information, it appears that major issue was the inability to correctly read code by end-user.

IOW... When code was read correctly it did check out... or am I crazy?

You are correct. In almost every case I read... If there was a code, it turned out legit. It would be hard to fake a scratch of holographic with code underneath so most fake don't even bother.

 

[Jerkthamerk]

yes, I can agree with you on this point.
IF it comes back saying "good" or whatever positive output on the check, then your odds that it did come from pharmacom are increased.

However, my other point is that just because it says "fake" or "good" really has no influence upon whether or not it is good gear or bunk.

I agree. And I think most of the time that's all people are trying to check. In my case this was true. But it does do something for piece of mind if you have researched a lab and read a lot of reviews. If you have bet on this site to be legit gear then it helps somewhat in confirming legit gear by confirming the origins, albiet minimal.

 

[Rudeness]

You are correct. In almost every case I read... If there was a code, it turned out legit. It would be hard to fake a scratch of holographic with code underneath so most fake don't even bother.

Personal opinion is that many brothers should relax and make certain of their accusations before fucking a labs rep.

Example One Claim: Code on vial did not verify and lab was shit on for days by forum
Fact: User misread code and after being corrected code did verify

 

[IwantToGetBig.Frank]

yes, I can agree with you on this point.
IF it comes back saying "good" or whatever positive output on the check, then your odds that it did come from pharmacom are increased.

However, my other point is that just because it says "fake" or "good" really has no influence upon whether or not it is good gear or bunk.

Truth behind your statement...that's why it's important to do everything you can to make an education decision and conclusion on your gear.

Not getting bloodwork done prior and during cycling will only hurt you. Buy a test kit to validate that your product is what it is - and I know it won't tell you the strength of the product but many items are switched for cost purposes by the owner or company.

Putting a code to validate the product is only really validating that it was made from the original company, but they can also sell bunk gear too.

Frank

 

[AlphaLife]

Ok so it's easy go get your baseline then blast that btl right away 2 pins a wk with the EQ and at wk 5 draw bloods. You will have the answer and proof whether or not these guys are selectively scamming or not. It would be a HUGE contribution to the community to find out the truth.

Amazing you were wrong again troll.

why is @AlphaLife alwwwayyyys sticking up for pharmacom? Im new here and even I have realized this trend, whats ur purpose bro?

Trolls

You are learning... They each have shills that come on and discredit anything worrisome and whip out the dudes dick and start jerking it if it's something positive


And what's up with his location... Shillcity?

Actually, I was right...you just took the troll's side. [emoji23]

You were saying something punk? Seems to me a trend is starting fuck boy !

Yes, and the trend is that you are ALWAYS WRONG. Wrong again this time troll. The trend continues. Can't wait for your next crackhead theory.

Well I couldn't get the other number but Beardsman did some investigating and found that it was not a "m" I'm the code it was in fact a "rn" that particular bottle is authentic according to the pharmacom site. I'm gonna go ahead and say that the other one was good and most likely just a matter of perception of what was printed.

Call off the dogs people!! It was in fact I who fucked up...... I think

Not fake.

What's your oriblem


Glitch or not, all "fake" vials need to be replaced by Frank immediately.

And you shouldn't have to wait 3 weeks for it. He should replace them with Daruis's by purchasing them, so you'll get it within a week.

Frank

My problem is the trolls and idiots who jump to conclusions without facts. There were no fake vials. Just the usual idiot users who can't read or use technology.

L

Looks like two v's at the end not a w

Bingo! But why would he try that first when he just wanted free gear?

I checked it with two v's and it said it was good. Now ur code is gonna say it's already been checked though.

Amazing that two people got it in seconds but the OP immediately assumed it was PC's fault, not his inability to think.


Let's all just relax and ignore trolls like @CdnGuy and not get wound up without facts. There are people who are paid by other labs to get this rumor mill going. Don't be so gullible gents. When theories and accusations are made, wait until the facts appear. They will appear, so long as we don't let the trolls run the show.

 

[movingiron88]

Amazing you were wrong again troll.

Trolls

Actually, I was right...you just took the troll's side. [emoji23]

Yes, and the trend is that you are ALWAYS WRONG. Wrong again this time troll. The trend continues. Can't wait for your next crackhead theory.

Not fake.

My problem is the trolls and idiots who jump to conclusions without facts. There were no fake vials. Just the usual idiot users who can't read or use technology.

Bingo! But why would he try that first when he just wanted free gear?

Amazing that two people got it in seconds but the OP immediately assumed it was PC's fault, not his inability to think.


Let's all just relax and ignore trolls like @CdnGuy and not get wound up without facts. There are people who are paid by other labs to get this rumor mill going. Don't be so gullible gents. When theories and accusations are made, wait until the facts appear. They will appear, so long as we don't let the trolls run the show.

Man you sure do take a lot of time out of your day to defend Pharmacom......

 

[RAre]

Is Alpha a rep for them?

 

[bigpoppachump]

Amazing you were wrong again troll.

Trolls

Actually, I was right...you just took the troll's side.

Yes, and the trend is that you are ALWAYS WRONG. Wrong again this time troll. The trend continues. Can't wait for your next crackhead theory.

Not fake.

My problem is the trolls and idiots who jump to conclusions without facts. There were no fake vials. Just the usual idiot users who can't read or use technology.

Bingo! But why would he try that first when he just wanted free gear?

Amazing that two people got it in seconds but the OP immediately assumed it was PC's fault, not his inability to think.


Let's all just relax and ignore trolls like @CdnGuy and not get wound up without facts. There are people who are paid by other labs to get this rumor mill going. Don't be so gullible gents. When theories and accusations are made, wait until the facts appear. They will appear, so long as we don't let the trolls run the show.

It seems to be a recurring theme that the codes are barely legible. I spent the better part of an hour typing the numbers and nothing I could come up with checked out. The codes are roughly a milimeter in height and I don't see this problem ending anytime soon with users not being able to correctly read the codes. You can take that idiot user shit and shove it right up your ass.

 

[Jerkthamerk]

Personal opinion is that many brothers should relax and make certain of their accusations before fucking a labs rep.

Example One Claim: Code on vial did not verify and lab was shit on for days by forum
Fact: User misread code and after being corrected code did verify

Well your personal opinion is shit. This is a source thread. A place where you can post about your issues with said source to resolve an issue through talking it out with other customers. My very first post was a picture of the code and it still took a while for someone to suggest it. Use your eyes and see for yourself. They are clearly touching at the top and by definition that is a W!

Secondly why the fuck do you care that a source was shit on? Are you upset they missed out on a few customers? A source is a source. Troll.

 

[Jerkthamerk]

Amazing you were wrong again troll.

Trolls

Actually, I was right...you just took the troll's side. [emoji23]

Yes, and the trend is that you are ALWAYS WRONG. Wrong again this time troll. The trend continues. Can't wait for your next crackhead theory.

Not fake.

My problem is the trolls and idiots who jump to conclusions without facts. There were no fake vials. Just the usual idiot users who can't read or use technology.

Bingo! But why would he try that first when he just wanted free gear?

Amazing that two people got it in seconds but the OP immediately assumed it was PC's fault, not his inability to think.


Let's all just relax and ignore trolls like @CdnGuy and not get wound up without facts. There are people who are paid by other labs to get this rumor mill going. Don't be so gullible gents. When theories and accusations are made, wait until the facts appear. They will appear, so long as we don't let the trolls run the show.

Your a fucking spaz man. It's a SOURCE THREAD! You are really going to sit there and say it is obvious and I just can't read!? I didn't see you swooping in there and noticing. And that was a zoomed in magnified picture. This is the exact place someone should come if they have a problem like mine. I immediately posted the picture to get everyone's opinion. And I never said the gear was fake..... I said when I typed it in the site came back saying fake. I even quoted the site. Maybe they should change it to " this gear is not registered in our system" Instead of FAKE in bold red.

Either way why are you so concerned with their reputation? If you are a customer it would actually benefit you for them to have less customers. There would be less chance they would be shut down. There would be fewer packages seized making it harder for them to spot yours. The only scenario where it would benefit you is if you are invested somehow.

Every time you pipe up and say something it just makes you look like a rep. You would do less damage just shutting the fuck up and keeping your mile long 8 reply posts to yourself. And you are calling others trolls?!!!?

 

[johnnybravel22]

Anyone try the oxymethelone 25 tabs from pharmacom yet?

 

[DOMS4DAYS]

^^^^^^^ this and has there been any testing done?

 

[AlphaLife]

Your a fucking spaz man. It's a SOURCE THREAD! You are really going to sit there and say it is obvious and I just can't read!? I didn't see you swooping in there and noticing. And that was a zoomed in magnified picture. This is the exact place someone should come if they have a problem like mine. I immediately posted the picture to get everyone's opinion. And I never said the gear was fake..... I said when I typed it in the site came back saying fake. I even quoted the site. Maybe they should change it to " this gear is not registered in our system" Instead of FAKE in bold red.

Either way why are you so concerned with their reputation? If you are a customer it would actually benefit you for them to have less customers. There would be less chance they would be shut down. There would be fewer packages seized making it harder for them to spot yours. The only scenario where it would benefit you is if you are invested somehow.

Every time you pipe up and say something it just makes you look like a rep. You would do less damage just shutting the fuck up and keeping your mile long 8 reply posts to yourself. And you are calling others trolls?!!!?

I'm concerned with idiots wasting space on the thread with false claims that we have to sort through because they are too stupid to count the digits in a code. Why would I swoop in? I assumed you had actually tried all possibilities before wasting our time with your issue. Of course you didn't though. You're just lazy.

 

[AlphaLife]

It seems to be a recurring theme that the codes are barely legible. I spent the better part of an hour typing the numbers and nothing I could come up with checked out. The codes are roughly a milimeter in height and I don't see this problem ending anytime soon with users not being able to correctly read the codes. You can take that idiot user shit and shove it right up your ass.

I actually was referring to OP, but since you decided to pipe up, sorry to hear you jad so much difficulty with english characters. I haven't had that problem.

 

[AlphaLife]

Is Alpha a rep for them?

Nope. Just hate sifting through shit to get legit info.

See, for example, every post I've ever made about Pharmatropin. I'm clearly not a rep (unless you're judgement is clouded by your hate for PC).

 

[AlphaLife]

Man you sure do take a lot of time out of your day to defend Pharmacom......

Is that what I did? I thought I was just stating facts...seems to be rare on this thread for some reason. Lots of you guys seem to play hard and fast with the facts over here. Really just tired of sifting through 100 useless posts to get 1 factual post.

If you actually read all my posts, not just those that serve your view point (anti-PC?) you'll see I am actually fair and entirely fact based. See, e.g., every post I've ever made about their HGH.

Also: I don't know how long it takes you to type/text, but I can manage to write a few paragraphs while I'm taking a shit, so it really doesn't "take a lot of time out of [my] day."

 

[rpbb]

^^^^^^^ this and has there been any testing done?

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[CdnGuy]

Attention new members any thing @AlphaLife says in regards to this lab is COMPLETE BIAS! He just like his rep pals Dema & IJ work for Pharmacom. Alphagoof is Franks bitch boy. As you can see he is constantly defending this thread and doing a very sad job at it is must say lol So don't listen to his comments on PC gear! Listen to actual Meso members not lab employees!