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But a labmax would only tell if there is Testosterone in the vial doesn't it?
Wouldn't say why he gets sick or not...
From all AL testing and all the tests on PCOM I doubt it would fail the Labmax. At least I didn't ever see any testing fail without the active ingredient from PC.
 
From first hand experience, there can and usually will be an immune response when the body receives an influx of supraphysiological levels of hormones.
Over time, it will subside. If it has not in one week, possibly two, I would discontinue use.
 
This is a post for guys thinking of buying PC from the international store. Just looking out for most of the guys on this board. I wanted to come out and state that Pharmacom has failed to ship in products to me in the Western part of the US (won't state exactly where just to be cautious). I know their stealth method is pretty clever, but you all must understand that after a while, customs officials opening the same packages containing the same exact product will raise some flags. On top of that the discreet shipping (stealth) method is played out and burnt thanks to numerous idiots and competitors posting pictures of it on here and other forums. Think before you post shit that can compromise other people getting their gear or prepare to get flamed by active board members.Until they change their stealth shipping or method of delivery, I would say hold off or order at your own risk since the odds of getting your gear aren't very good if you live near an ISC with a high seizure rate. I also don't understand how other resellers like Darius have a pretty high success rate and lots of bros on here including myself have lost out on our gear ordering through the international store. Step up your game up Pharmacom (basic stero)! Yes, they do their part by reshipping but what good does it do if the package is just going to get seized again. Domestic store is almost infallible, but as you know the prices are a little on the high side. Honestly I'm really not here to bad mouth the source, I love their products and have had success running multiple cycles stacking their gear. This however, is not what this post is about (So all you damn shiller whistle blowers can fuck off). I have sent them emails and tried contacting them though their contact site board. Communication on their part has been excellent and I have always received a response, but I recently got my stuff seized I have contacted reps and tried getting through but have not received a response. So forewarning to the noobs here, Pharmacom reps in the int store are temporarily(don't know for how long?) not responding to any emails. Understand that ordering gear through PC or any int source is a game of patience and luck, so please stop posting your fucking tracking numbers. Youre fucking it up for the rest of us too! Order at your own risk and don't go around bitching and crying when customs seizes your shit twice and Pharmacom won't reship. End rant.
 
This is a post for guys thinking of buying PC from the international store. Just looking out for most of the guys on this board. I wanted to come out and state that Pharmacom has failed to ship in products to me in the Western part of the US (won't state exactly where just to be cautious). I know their stealth method is pretty clever, but you all must understand that after a while, customs officials opening the same packages containing the same exact product will raise some flags. On top of that the discreet shipping (stealth) method is played out and burnt thanks to numerous idiots and competitors posting pictures of it on here and other forums. Think before you post shit that can compromise other people getting their gear or prepare to get flamed by active board members.Until they change their stealth shipping or method of delivery, I would say hold off or order at your own risk since the odds of getting your gear aren't very good if you live near an ISC with a high seizure rate. I also don't understand how other resellers like Darius have a pretty high success rate and lots of bros on here including myself have lost out on our gear ordering through the international store. Step up your game up Pharmacom (basic stero)! Yes, they do their part by reshipping but what good does it do if the package is just going to get seized again. Domestic store is almost infallible, but as you know the prices are a little on the high side. Honestly I'm really not here to bad mouth the source, I love their products and have had success running multiple cycles stacking their gear. This however, is not what this post is about (So all you damn shiller whistle blowers can fuck off). I have sent them emails and tried contacting them though their contact site board. Communication on their part has been excellent and I have always received a response, but I recently got my stuff seized I have contacted reps and tried getting through but have not received a response. So forewarning to the noobs here, Pharmacom reps in the int store are temporarily(don't know for how long?) not responding to any emails. Understand that ordering gear through PC or any int source is a game of patience and luck, so please stop posting your fucking tracking numbers. Youre fucking it up for the rest of us too! Order at your own risk and don't go around bitching and crying when customs seizes your shit twice and Pharmacom won't reship. End rant.

Well said bro. My package with PC also got siezed, was with darius and surprisingly the basicstero one came through! I'm actually taking a bit of a loss on the pharmacomstore order. I wont be ordering again from PharmacomStore but I might go with basicstero once again. But like you said it's always a risk.
 
From first hand experience, there can and usually will be an immune response when the body receives an influx of supraphysiological levels of hormones.
Over time, it will subside. If it has not in one week, possibly two, I would discontinue use.
That shit is real. First time i ran TE300 i got siiiiiiick as fuck. Like serious flu. but was great at the end. :)
 
This is a post for guys thinking of buying PC from the international store. Just looking out for most of the guys on this board. I wanted to come out and state that Pharmacom has failed to ship in products to me in the Western part of the US (won't state exactly where just to be cautious). I know their stealth method is pretty clever, but you all must understand that after a while, customs officials opening the same packages containing the same exact product will raise some flags. On top of that the discreet shipping (stealth) method is played out and burnt thanks to numerous idiots and competitors posting pictures of it on here and other forums. Think before you post shit that can compromise other people getting their gear or prepare to get flamed by active board members.Until they change their stealth shipping or method of delivery, I would say hold off or order at your own risk since the odds of getting your gear aren't very good if you live near an ISC with a high seizure rate. I also don't understand how other resellers like Darius have a pretty high success rate and lots of bros on here including myself have lost out on our gear ordering through the international store. Step up your game up Pharmacom (basic stero)! Yes, they do their part by reshipping but what good does it do if the package is just going to get seized again. Domestic store is almost infallible, but as you know the prices are a little on the high side. Honestly I'm really not here to bad mouth the source, I love their products and have had success running multiple cycles stacking their gear. This however, is not what this post is about (So all you damn shiller whistle blowers can fuck off). I have sent them emails and tried contacting them though their contact site board. Communication on their part has been excellent and I have always received a response, but I recently got my stuff seized I have contacted reps and tried getting through but have not received a response. So forewarning to the noobs here, Pharmacom reps in the int store are temporarily(don't know for how long?) not responding to any emails. Understand that ordering gear through PC or any int source is a game of patience and luck, so please stop posting your fucking tracking numbers. Youre fucking it up for the rest of us too! Order at your own risk and don't go around bitching and crying when customs seizes your shit twice and Pharmacom won't reship. End rant.

I'm about to make my second order thru the international store. Just had a few questions/concerns about your post. You say that Pharmacom "failed to ship in products to you" but then go on to talk about seizure. To clarify - did they ship 2 times and did it get seized both times (since 1st reship is free)? Or did they fail to ship it at all, which is what it looks like your saying (and is a huge problem)?

And when you say you're not getting a response from the reps - are you talking about whoever replies to the general email address or are you trying to get a response from someone on a higher level? FWIW I emailed PC last night about trying to place an order (CC payment not working) and received a response late this morning so a little over 12 hours. I've had success contacting Frank on that Wickr app they link in the FAQ in the past as well.

Looking forward to your answers and hope everything works out for you.
 
I'm about to make my second order thru the international store. Just had a few questions/concerns about your post. You say that Pharmacom "failed to ship in products to you" but then go on to talk about seizure. To clarify - did they ship 2 times and did it get seized both times (since 1st reship is free)? Or did they fail to ship it at all, which is what it looks like your saying (and is a huge problem)?

And when you say you're not getting a response from the reps - are you talking about whoever replies to the general email address or are you trying to get a response from someone on a higher level? FWIW I emailed PC last night about trying to place an order (CC payment not working) and received a response late this morning so a little over 12 hours. I've had success contacting Frank on that Wickr app they link in the FAQ in the past as well.

Looking forward to your answers and hope everything works out for you.

They failed to get my products in, they have always shipped all of my orders and provided necessary information involving tracking statuses(arrival/processing/departure). Whether they are successful in getting it to me or not is a whole different story.For the sake of answering your question the process of shipping large orders is somewhat different, in the sense that larger orders mean a bigger chance that your order and its entirety will not make it through. I don't mean to contradict myself by giving too much information, but if you have made orders over 800 or with multiple items, you would know the specific methods they use. I am one of the many guys on here that tried to take advantage of the amp sale they were having. Lets say that seizure risk was higher for me because of a large order, and yes this was the first time being shipped. They have failed to get back to me for x amount of days (no specifics but ill have you know it was more than 4) and i have tried reaching them a couple of times through email and their site providing order number and specifics. I provided all the necessary information and documents they require for reshipping to assert that I am not a shady ass lying gear stealing bitch. I also know they recently made some changes to their email system, and a bug prevented them from receiving emails from the past 4 days. Thus, the reason why i tried to reach out more than once. I don't care who replies to me, i just want to be acknowledged and have the 2nd reshipment that they stated they would send me. I will try contacting them again, and play the waiting game for now, but so far this has been my most recent experience. When they do decide to get back to me about reshipping my order I will do the right thing and let all of you guys know (of course without specifics).
 
I call bullshit on this cuz Darius an his team always hyu, I been with the same team since for a few years an haven't switched up an it's always been legit for "years" fam, gotta give credit where it's due for being around since 2006 tbh.

Side note, #nomoreschillreviews2017
This has nothing to do with Darius. Wrong thread brah this is for basicstero
 
Thanks for the replies guys I found the codes on the vials didn't realize they were under the hologram!
Think it's all good after all.
 
Thanks for the replies guys I found the codes on the vials didn't realize they were under the hologram!
Think it's all good after all.

Good man. Now you can help someone else that has this issue. Keep in mind sometimes "vv" may look like a "w". Dont come back saying codes dont work, lol. Enjoy that gear!
 
Planning on running Pharmacom Mast Prop next month for submission wrestling competition prep defending my title.
Did not get it from Darius so I checked codes and checked out authentic.
Right now working on dropping body fat for the run
 
Planning on running Pharmacom Mast Prop next month for submission wrestling competition prep defending my title.
Did not get it from Darius so I checked codes and checked out authentic.
Right now working on dropping body fat for the run

If you ordered from Frank (basicstero)
You're good. Darius is a reseller. Basicstero is the original pharmacom source
 
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