Post pct estrogen rebound

[Yeabuddyron]

Hey guys I'm 3 weeks out from what felt like a pretty successful pct of clomid and torem but I'm having to take more adex then I would normally take on over a gram of gear! Wtf is going on its like all of a sudden I'm super sensitive to estrogen. I'm taking .5mg eod and for the most part I get morning wood and good erections but as soon as I try tapering off the adex within 2 days or so boom limp dick and no morning woods. Can someone chime in because I've never had to take this much adex.

 

[Docd187123]

Maybe I'm not understanding what you wrote but you're 3wks after finishing a PCT and you're taking adex? Why would you take adex after finishing a PCT?

 

[mands]

Bloodwork? Like Docd stated. Why are you on Nolvadex after your PCT run?

mands

 

[Yeabuddyron]

@Docd187123
@mands
I'm not on nolva I'm on adex... I'm taking it because I'm having estro sides. About week 2.5 of pct estro came back strong and I got a slight gyno flare and woods got soft. Started on .25mg of adex e3d and woods came back but then by the end of week 3 and 4 .25mg wasn't cutting it and morning woods were disappearing and started going soft again. Bumped it up to .5mg eod and woods came back strong and rode that till 2 weeks ago where I tried tapering off the adex and then by 3 or 4 days with no adex I'm back to 80% erections and no morning woods. I planned on getting bloods 6 weeks post pct but here I am half way there and I'm still battling estro.

 

[Docd187123]

@Docd187123
@mands
I'm not on nolva I'm on adex... I'm taking it because I'm having estro sides. About week 2.5 of pct estro came back strong and I got a slight gyno flare and woods got soft. Started on .25mg of adex e3d and woods came back but then by the end of week 3 and 4 .25mg wasn't cutting it and morning woods were disappearing and started going soft again. Bumped it up to .5mg eod and woods came back strong and rode that till 2 weeks ago where I tried tapering off the adex and then by 3 or 4 days with no adex I'm back to 80% erections and no morning woods. I planned on getting bloods 6 weeks post pct but here I am half way there and I'm still battling estro.

How do you know is estrogen without having bloods done?

 

[Yeabuddyron]

What else would cause gyno flare and intermittent lose of woods that get better with dose of adex?

 

[mands]

@Docd187123
@mands
I'm not on nolva I'm on adex... I'm taking it because I'm having estro sides. About week 2.5 of pct estro came back strong and I got a slight gyno flare and woods got soft. Started on .25mg of adex e3d and woods came back but then by the end of week 3 and 4 .25mg wasn't cutting it and morning woods were disappearing and started going soft again. Bumped it up to .5mg eod and woods came back strong and rode that till 2 weeks ago where I tried tapering off the adex and then by 3 or 4 days with no adex I'm back to 80% erections and no morning woods. I planned on getting bloods 6 weeks post pct but here I am half way there and I'm still battling estro.

I apologize I wrote nolva instead of adex.

I would of gotten bloods immediately if you thought you were having estrogen sides. You are tossing drugs into the mix without a definitive answer to why.

And if you thought you were having gyno issues, why Arimidex?

You are messing with your hormones and should not do so without blood work.

What do you run for this cycle and when did you start your PCT?

mands

 

[Yeabuddyron]

I ran 100 50 50 50 clomid with 60 60 40 40 torem for pct. And I didn't get bloods because I was under assumptions that the serms would make my results for estro pretty much usless.

 

[Yeabuddyron]

I will be going this afternoon for bloods even though it's only been 3 weeks off serms.

 

[Docd187123]

What else would cause gyno flare and intermittent lose of woods that get better with dose of adex?

Low testosterone

 

[mands]

I ran 100 50 50 50 clomid with 60 60 40 40 torem for pct. And I didn't get bloods because I was under assumptions that the serms would make my results for estro pretty much usless.

When did you start your PCT and what were you running on cycle?

mands

 

[Yeabuddyron]

I started pct on July 21st and I was on tren and test both 500mg ew. I don't think it's low test. I felt 100x better 2nd week of pct and nuts came back to full size. I was at a 330 pre pct so I guess the blood's will tell the story tomorrow.

 

[mands]

I started pct on July 21st and I was on tren and test both 500mg ew. I don't think it's low test. I felt 100x better 2nd week of pct and nuts came back to full size. I was at a 330 pre pct so I guess the blood's will tell the story tomorrow.

When was your last shots?

mands

 

[Yeabuddyron]

June 5th

 

[Eman]

June 5th

Do you mean July?

 

[Docd187123]

I started pct on July 21st and I was on tren and test both 500mg ew. I don't think it's low test. I felt 100x better 2nd week of pct and nuts came back to full size. I was at a 330 pre pct so I guess the blood's will tell the story tomorrow.

Well second week of PCT has artificially high test levels bc of the SERMs. When you come off the SERMs your test levels drop.

 

[Yeabuddyron]

I get that but no reason for them to drop back to be low enough to cause low t symptoms unless by somehow this last run was the one that somehow did me and I won't recover.

 

[Yeabuddyron]

Do you mean July?

Yes I did sorry. Now y'all got me stressing that I ve somehow not recovered. I mean to me it just felt like high estro but I guess getting bloods early can't hurt. At least I'll get a good idea of why I keep fluctuating so much. Hopefully I'll have the results tomorrow.

 

[Eman]

Yes I did sorry. Now y'all got me stressing that I ve somehow not recovered. I mean to me it just felt like high estro but I guess getting bloods early can't hurt. At least I'll get a good idea of why I keep fluctuating so much. Hopefully I'll have the results tomorrow.

I'm having trouble following your timeline but it sounds like you started PCT a little early.

Either way, if you feel off, get bloodwork... It's a no brainer.

 

[Yeabuddyron]

I'm having trouble following your timeline but it sounds like you started PCT a little early.

Either way, if you feel off, get bloodwork... It's a no brainer.

I waited till my bloods dipped down to 300 before i started pct which was approximately 3 weeks after last shot.