Nah some of us do still purchase, but also just want you to keep your word. This two things can exist together.
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Photon
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Pretty dam accurate actually.
<1% variance!
Good job.
200mg/ml!
<1% variance!
Good job.
200mg/ml!
delay3s
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Stop comparing yourself to other sources if you want to be the best. Instead of justifying your mistakes by comparing it to others that have made worse, learn from your mistakes and become better. Sure some people talk shit just for the fun of it and are annoying but most people only give criticism to make you better and the forum safer
Just my $0.02
AlexDavis43
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Homebrewers have been making consistent gear without volumetric flasks since forever
that's a false flag to be chasing
I haven't followed the drama enough to explain the variability in Primal's gear but not using volumetric flasks isn't it
He confessed at one point that a batch was not actually a batch but multiple batches with the same recipe. So folks were pushing for a bigger flask that could hold one large homogeneous batch. At least that was my understanding.
crispybacon!
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I would argue that “volumetric flasks, larger equipment, and true homogeneous batches” do provide more consistency. But leaving that aside for now, the question I’m asking Primal is whether they going to follow through on their words.
Photon
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I'm going to stop visiting this thread, except to repost this daily.
Please direct any new joiners to this post.
Please re-post as necessary as well.
Beware, vendor (1) constantly lies, (2) sells contaminated, (3) under-dosed products which doesn't match vendor's own testing. If purchasing, please do BOTH HPLC and GCMS on products before usage.
(1) Test U 250 - > 3rd party tested as contaminated 200mg/ml. Used same batch numbers, for 2 different brews with different mg/ml.
(2) Primo - Claimed to brew using raws, multiple times, only to be caught reselling China Primo for US Dom prices.
(3) TestC250 -> 3rd party tested, multiple vials under-dosed as 220mg/ml to 230mg/ml. Different brews, different mg/ml, same batch number.
(4) MastP200 -> 3rd party tested under-dosed as 153mg/ml.
(5) TRE400 -> 2 different batches, both 3rd party tested to both be contaminated with dissolved brewing equipment.
(6) TC50 -> Female Test Cyp 50, multiple 3rd party testing as 62mg/ml.
(7) Adrol50 -> 3rd party tested as 30mg/ml.
(8) EQ300/EQ500 -> Multiple vials of EQ brewed using different set of raws of different colors using same batch number with only 1 test. Claims to send raws for testing, waited for results, only to admit nothing was sent and that a new batch was coming. (What was actually sold?)
So you sent it..waited for results..then apparently did not send it and now have a new batch you are sending out?
Please direct any new joiners to this post.
Please re-post as necessary as well.
Beware, vendor (1) constantly lies, (2) sells contaminated, (3) under-dosed products which doesn't match vendor's own testing. If purchasing, please do BOTH HPLC and GCMS on products before usage.
(1) Test U 250 - > 3rd party tested as contaminated 200mg/ml. Used same batch numbers, for 2 different brews with different mg/ml.
primals test undecanoate, pretty consistent....
(2) Primo - Claimed to brew using raws, multiple times, only to be caught reselling China Primo for US Dom prices.
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(3) TestC250 -> 3rd party tested, multiple vials under-dosed as 220mg/ml to 230mg/ml. Different brews, different mg/ml, same batch number.
(4) MastP200 -> 3rd party tested under-dosed as 153mg/ml.
(5) TRE400 -> 2 different batches, both 3rd party tested to both be contaminated with dissolved brewing equipment.
(6) TC50 -> Female Test Cyp 50, multiple 3rd party testing as 62mg/ml.
(7) Adrol50 -> 3rd party tested as 30mg/ml.
(8) EQ300/EQ500 -> Multiple vials of EQ brewed using different set of raws of different colors using same batch number with only 1 test. Claims to send raws for testing, waited for results, only to admit nothing was sent and that a new batch was coming. (What was actually sold?)
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So you sent it..waited for results..then apparently did not send it and now have a new batch you are sending out?
Photon
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His definition of a batch is "anything produced within a fixed period of time under the same conditions or something" -- I don't remember the specific wordings.
How many different sets of raws or brews/beakers/filters is irrelevant, they are all the same batch and require just one batch number and test.
i'm out guys, enjoy yourself.
He's lied so many times..can you guys even trust what quality oil he is using at this point..
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hellerhiwater
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do you have more recent testing on the npp200, or is it the same batch from may 2025? if so, did this batch avoid the stopper issue somehow?
Smokeythabear
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The "private" talk sounds like a retreat because the noise is getting to you. We get it, but going dark just lets the critics win. You’ve nailed the easy stuff, shipping is the fastest on the board and your support is solid. But fast shipping doesn't build a legacy; vial-to-vial consistency does.
Reverse Benchmark the "Standard"
The industry standard is to deflect bad tests or blame the user. To actually be the benchmark, you have to do the opposite of the pack:
Remove the Steel Curtain: Most sources hide their process. You have mostly been transparent when prompted. Stop telling us you’re the best and start showing it on the technical side. That 25% variance in the Test U is a fixable error/issue, not "noise." Address the variance and fix, not the drama. Ensure how it doesn’t happen again…Answer the critics with real solutions, not excuses.
The "Testing Pending" Standard: Stop selling a batch the second it’s brewed. Every raw and every finished batch needs to be tested/labeled properly/verified before it hits the menu. If you’re in a rush, mark it as "Testing Pending" so the guys know exactly what they’re buying. Transparency over speed.
Accountability is the Product: Those five people complaining are giving you a roadmap. Everyone else on the board is "good enough." You become undeniable by solving the one thing the others sources are too lazy to fix, ensuring the vial in a customer's hand actually matches the testing posted.
Don’t lean in anymore with the defensive posts. If you solve the variance and testing raws issues out in the open, the noise will take care of itself. You’ve got the opportunity to rise up now, don’t be soft bro.
Reverse Benchmark the "Standard"
The industry standard is to deflect bad tests or blame the user. To actually be the benchmark, you have to do the opposite of the pack:
Remove the Steel Curtain: Most sources hide their process. You have mostly been transparent when prompted. Stop telling us you’re the best and start showing it on the technical side. That 25% variance in the Test U is a fixable error/issue, not "noise." Address the variance and fix, not the drama. Ensure how it doesn’t happen again…Answer the critics with real solutions, not excuses.
The "Testing Pending" Standard: Stop selling a batch the second it’s brewed. Every raw and every finished batch needs to be tested/labeled properly/verified before it hits the menu. If you’re in a rush, mark it as "Testing Pending" so the guys know exactly what they’re buying. Transparency over speed.
Accountability is the Product: Those five people complaining are giving you a roadmap. Everyone else on the board is "good enough." You become undeniable by solving the one thing the others sources are too lazy to fix, ensuring the vial in a customer's hand actually matches the testing posted.
Don’t lean in anymore with the defensive posts. If you solve the variance and testing raws issues out in the open, the noise will take care of itself. You’ve got the opportunity to rise up now, don’t be soft bro.
Tbaz192
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Ooooof the post about these guys being noise just back fired 
I have his EQ 300 I’ve never done a jano test before … @Primal_Pharma
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