Primo Pip

[Prince Charming]

Sup dudes just wondering how many of you have gotten pip from primo and what you did to manage. Started my second cycle of 500 test e and 300 primo e this Monday, injected into right ventro glute and limped for a solid 3 days. Pain was so bad I had to skip legs this week. Luckily it’s gone on right side but just did left today(Thursday) and not looking forward to looking like a cripple again the rest of the week.
For reference Im using 200mg/ml primo and am injecting in the same shot with the test(250mg/ml). Also I haven’t injected ventro glutes since my last blast so hopefully it gets better after a couple injections. Was only using 5/8s in needles for my cruise so I just stuck with quads and Delts for injection sites.

 

[Nidus]

Quite normal to have pip at 200mg Primo. 175mg-150mg is usually the sweetspot for most.
Ofc also depends on the oils, solvents and all that. Seen plenty of 200mg Primos which contain solvents which can make a pip even worse

 

[forhealth87]

Feel you, I am using 100 mg/ml and it is weird regarding pip. My last week injection was 0 pip and the one I took yesterday is really annoying. So it is just not the Primo itself and it probably highly depends what area you hit and how you inject. My last was VG injection, a spot where I usually have less pip, but who knows, maybe I hit a bad spot or a kind of "new" area.

 

[Mrhairyman]

Add Test in the same syringe, it will help with the pip

 

[SBD1]

Skill issue, just took 2.5cc of Sust/primo/tren in the left cheek 2 hours ago and almost forgot I did it.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Add Test in the same syringe, it will help with the pip

Quite normal to have pip at 200mg Primo. 175mg-150mg is usually the sweetspot for most.
Ofc also depends on the oils, solvents and all that. Seen plenty of 200mg Primos which contain solvents which can make a pip even worse

he's doing that already

For reference Im using 200mg/ml primo and am injecting in the same shot with the test(250mg/ml). Also I haven’t injected ventro glutes since my last blast so hopefully it gets better after a couple injections. Was only using 5/8s in needles for my cruise so I just stuck with quads and Delts for injection sites.

 

[Bumpygooch]

QSC primo has been killing me. I put .6ML along with about .9ML of other oil(cyp and prop) in my left ventral glute a couple weeks back. PIP so bad I couldn’t put weight on my leg. Finally took dexamethasone to knock it down as sometimes it can linger for a week. I’ve had issues with that particular site in the past, so, I’ll no longer use it. Been fine in glutes, relatively ok in quads, as much as I try to avoid using them. Resorted to the use of a mug warmer, seems to have made something of a difference. I’d avoid that site for awhile. I think some QSC 200mg/ml batches are overdosed, which is likely the cause, Tracy denied the use of super solvents.

 

[Prince Charming]

Already got it in left leg. Started to feel it at the end of my workout now I’m peg legging it around the house. Massaging and doing some slight stretches is helping though.

 

[Prince Charming]

Feel you, I am using 100 mg/ml and it is weird regarding pip. My last week injection was 0 pip and the one I took yesterday is really annoying. So it is just not the Primo itself and it probably highly depends what area you hit and how you inject. My last was VG injection, a spot where I usually have less pip, but who knows, maybe I hit a bad spot or a kind of "new" area.

Yea I’m the opposite, VG has always been kinda an iffy spot for me especially when I first started TRT. I’m hoping it’s just where I started hitting it again after a break but jabbing quads next week which surprisingly has always been a pretty pain free spot for me.

 

[Prince Charming]

QSC primo has been killing me. I put .6ML along with about .9ML of other oil(cyp and prop) in my left ventral glute a couple weeks back. PIP so bad I couldn’t put weight on my leg. Finally took dexamethasone to knock it down as sometimes it can linger for a week. I’ve had issues with that particular site in the past, so, I’ll no longer use it. Been fine in glutes, relatively ok in quads, as much as I try to avoid using them. Resorted to the use of a mug warmer, seems to have made something of a difference. I’d avoid that site for awhile. I think some QSC 200mg/ml batches are overdosed, which is likely the cause, Tracy denied the use of super solvents.

I understand the pain. Thought id be one of the lucky ones and not get any pip but here I am. That’s a good idea though I’m gonna try to warm it up a bit next time. I sourced it from GA but the bright side is I can be fairly certain I’ve gotten primo.

 

[BamaCrazy]

I understand the pain. Thought id be one of the lucky ones and not get any pip but here I am. That’s a good idea though I’m gonna try to warm it up a bit next time. I sourced it from GA but the bright side is I can be fairly certain I’ve gotten primo.

GA’s Primo is the worst for pip. I’ve got GA Primo 200, QSC 100 and 200, Stan’s 150, and HYB’s GSO Primo 200 and only GA gives me pip. I stopped using it last cycle and have been using QSC’s. Thought I’d try GA again 2 weeks ago VG. Big mistake. I’ve still got a knot there.

 

[Prince Charming]

A little update:
I’ve been doing some research on ways to mitigate the pip and am going to switch to eod injections, heat up the syringe, and also dilute the primo but got a question on the process of this. GA uses mct oil so I’m gonna order this oil



To dilute, can I just calculate the amount of oil to make 100mg/ml and add to the syringe every time?

Since I’m switching to eod injections, I’m gonna base calculations off a 2-week total instead of weekly since one week I’ll inject 3 times and the other week 4 times. So 600mg primo every 2weeks, split into 7 injections is

•600/7 = ~86mg per.
•86mg*(1ml/200mg) = 0.43ml per.

Since I want it diluted to be half concentration, I’ll just add 0.43 ml of mct oil to the syringe as well to make 0.86 ml correct? I’m gonna round to 0.9ml just for simplicity.

Now on top of that Ive got 1000mg test e per 2 weeks but left that out just to make the equation for the dilution of primo
simpler.

After this cycle I’m just gonna stick with 100mg/ml if pip is seriously reduced from this.

 

[Bumpygooch]

Yes, EOD volume x 7/2, gets you weird numbers, like 420mg/week using .6ML EOD. Been using mug warmer successfully for about 2 weeks along with avoiding trouble sites.

 

[Savagesteve]

Which carrier oil? I pin .5ml primo 200 with .ml of test together with no issues. Only primo that fucked me up was brewed with eo and I didn’t know it until after I pinned it.

 

[Babygeei]

A little update:
I’ve been doing some research on ways to mitigate the pip and am going to switch to eod injections, heat up the syringe, and also dilute the primo but got a question on the process of this. GA uses mct oil so I’m gonna order this oil
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To dilute, can I just calculate the amount of oil to make 100mg/ml and add to the syringe every time?

Since I’m switching to eod injections, I’m gonna base calculations off a 2-week total instead of weekly since one week I’ll inject 3 times and the other week 4 times. So 600mg primo every 2weeks, split into 7 injections is

•600/7 = ~86mg per.
•86mg*(1ml/200mg) = 0.43ml per.

Since I want it diluted to be half concentration, I’ll just add 0.43 ml of mct oil to the syringe as well to make 0.86 ml correct? I’m gonna round to 0.9ml just for simplicity.

Now on top of that Ive got 1000mg test e per 2 weeks but left that out just to make the equation for the dilution of primo
simpler.

After this cycle I’m just gonna stick with 100mg/ml if pip is seriously reduced from this.

I'm interested in the answer to this also. I just got this same mct oil delivered in hopes of diluting my QSC primo to try and take the pip away.

 

[Babygeei]

Also, I asked about diluting with more mct oil on another forum and received this answer:

"If you add sterile oil to reduce concentration, you also should be adding more BA to keep ~2% of total volume as BA."

Is this correct?

 

[MrTexas2]

Sup dudes just wondering how many of you have gotten pip from primo and what you did to manage. Started my second cycle of 500 test e and 300 primo e this Monday, injected into right ventro glute and limped for a solid 3 days. Pain was so bad I had to skip legs this week. Luckily it’s gone on right side but just did left today(Thursday) and not looking forward to looking like a cripple again the rest of the week.
For reference Im using 200mg/ml primo and am injecting in the same shot with the test(250mg/ml). Also I haven’t injected ventro glutes since my last blast so hopefully it gets better after a couple injections. Was only using 5/8s in needles for my cruise so I just stuck with quads and Delts for injection sites.

I just finished up some primo 200. You need to mix it 50/50 with test and it is smooth. If you increase the ratio of primo then yes, you get pip.

 

[Babygeei]

I just finished up some primo 200. You need to mix it 50/50 with test and it is smooth. If you increase the ratio of primo then yes, you get pip.

I mix with test, I've reflitered, and I heat it up. I don't get pip in vg's, but I get some in quads, delts, lats, and traps. I pin everyday so I can only hit the vg's so many times.

 

[ZaddyZonar]

The primo I’m using is dosed at 125mg, no pip. 200mg can have some bite to it.

 

[Prince Charming]

Also, I asked about diluting with more mct oil on another forum and received this answer:

"If you add sterile oil to reduce concentration, you also should be adding more BA to keep ~2% of total volume as BA."

Is this correct?

I didn’t even think of needing to add BA. Seems like such a minuscule amount to add to each syringe tho wouldnt it? Diluting an entire vial would still only be a fraction of a ml to keep 2%. Maybe some home brewers could give some insight on the importance of that.