Proviron apparently is just as dangerous to the cardiovascular system as several other orals

[2legit2quit]

My mistake. For whatever reason I remembered it as fucking useless.

Please accept my sincerest, most heartfelt apology for the mischaracterisation. I'm sure you're a veritable ball of heartwarming joy, as well as a tremendous lover.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

Where would Cheque drops be used for human therapy and why? I was under the impression they were used to get bitches into heat.

Lean, I think that was a rhetorical or slightly sarcastic example - to illustrate how the more esoteric drugs used among BBs aren't likely to be subjects for academic research on humans.

 

[Leancuisine]

Lean, I think that was a rhetorical or slightly sarcastic example - to illustrate how the more esoteric drugs used among BBs aren't likely to be subjects for academic research on humans.

I was blown away when I was shown a study on NPP where participants were given 600mg/wk.
Some studies, as rare as they are, do take a normal bodybuilding dose and see what it does to the body.


Also has anyone here ever tried cheque drops?

 

[Docd187123]

Not worthless if you are running test. It will rise your free test considerably by lowering your sex hormone binding globulin.

I heard it will make your heart grow more than anything else

I would like to see you post one study that shows Proviron incoreases free testosterone levels. Pretty please, one study.

 

[EcpertRealistic]

There might be a lack of studies on this matter, but blood works don't lie.


Just google
"Proviron free test"

 

[MisterSuperGod]

I was blown away when I was shown a study on NPP where participants were given 600mg/wk.
Some studies, as rare as they are, do take a normal bodybuilding dose and see what it does to the body.


Also has anyone here ever tried cheque drops?

Now you have me intrigued.
Is there a link for this study? If not, can you elaborate on what you read?

 

[Docd187123]

There might be a lack of studies on this matter, but blood works don't lie.


Just google
"Proviron free test"

I see you're unfamiliar with bloodwork and SHBG/TT/FT bc it oftentimes can lie.

I don't think there are a lack of studies on this matter. I have at least two or three studies that show proviron does not increase free testosterone.

 

[Naugahyde]

Not worthless if you are running test. It will rise your free test considerably by lowering your sex hormone binding globulin.

I heard it will make your heart grow more than anything else

I read some information on The Steroid Clinic site which states that Proviron/Mesterolone ''has some of the most pronounced negative effects on cholesterol values of any of the commonly used performance/physique enhancing steroids'', greatly increasing the risk of cardiovascular plaque, in spite of its negligible effects on the liver. The site states that the risk is comparable to that of Anavar and small doses of Winstrol.
What really surprised me is that risk is said to be greater than that of Trenbolone.

This is fascinating to me because I always thought Proviron was one of the very mild drugs in terms of side effects. I was initially considering adding Proviron on a fairly consistent basis to Testosterone, but I'm not going to take something that is potentially just as damaging to my heart as several of the 17-alpha alkylated drugs yet does little in terms of promoting mass & strength gain.

Can anyone validate these claims?

Adverse effect of the anabolic-androgenic steroid mesterolone on cardiac remodelling and lipoprotein profile is attenuated by aerobicz exercise tra... - PubMed - NCBI

 

[Naugahyde]

Mesterolone treatment of aging male syndrome improves lower urinary tract symptoms. - PubMed - NCBI

 

[Brolloks]

Well theres more to your health than blood tests. You can have a build up of plaque in your arteries that your blood tests won't show.

Really? If your blood tests show healthy levels of cholesterol, surely plaque buildup is less likely to occur?

 

[Naugahyde]

Really? If your blood tests show healthy levels of cholesterol, surely plaque buildup is less likely to occur?

Exactly

 

[MCFC]

Now you have me intrigued.
Is there a link for this study? If not, can you elaborate on what you read?

Interested in this as well @Leancuisine