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Okay, to be clear here ... this did not happen to me using ANY source's finished gear.

I understand what you are saying about other sources of floaters but when the finished oil has been filtered through .45 and .2 filters it eliminates a lot of source for floaters.

I may be wrong but I determined through research that one of the causes could be the use of soda lime glass vs borosilicate glass.

Soda lime glass is known to leach into the compounds being housed in it. That is what is considered delaminates.

To top it off, I was using the cheapest Chinese vials I could get my hands on so there's that. Hell, they may not have even been soda lime glass for all I know.

Either way, I started using borosilicate glass and no further issues.

As far as the pics go, no I did not take any as it was my own personal brew and saw no need to take pics.

Also, I am not trying to be argumentative or start a debate as everyone can choose what they want to use. I was simply attempting to secure another source.

Also, not trying to offend anyone in the process, I'm just trying to do business.


For those interested or with iquisitive minds:

borosilicate glass is so resistant to chemicals, that it is even used to store nuclear waste. The boron in the glass makes it less soluble, preventing any unwanted materials from leaching into the glass, or the other way around. In terms of overall performance, borosilicate glass is far superior to regular glass.

Taken from
What Is Borosilicate Glass and Why Is It Better Than Regular Glass?


I dont think your question was unreasonable. I think you're just expecting too much from rob. Hes not that good at this.

Email them directly or hit panda himself.
 
I dont think your question was unreasonable. I think you're just expecting too much from rob. Hes not that good at this.

Email them directly or hit panda himself.

I don't think the question was unreasonable either and I appreciate you trying to give me another avenue with PPL but I'm out.

If the rep can't handle something as small as this, there is no way he will be able to be trusted to handle a larger issue should one arise.

I have never jumped through hoops or accepted indignant arrogance from anyone and just said oh, okay ... here's my money anyhow and I am not about to start now.

And this instance has raised a lot of red flags for me and should for others.

IMHO, as far as Panda goes, he should reel Rob in or find someone else who doesn't run potential new or repeated business off.

But, I'm not Panda and it's not my business, so there you go.
 
I don't think the question was unreasonable either and I appreciate you trying to give me another avenue with PPL but I'm out.

If the rep can't handle something as small as this, there is no way he will be able to be trusted to handle a larger issue should one arise.

I have never jumped through hoops or accepted indignant arrogance from anyone and just said oh, okay ... here's my money anyhow and I am not about to start now.

And this instance has raised a lot of red flags for me and should for others.

IMHO, as far as Panda goes, he should reel Rob in or find someone else who doesn't run potential new or repeated business off.

But, I'm not Panda and it's not my business, so there you go.


Hello sir
I've sent the message to our lead vial construction engineer. I expect an answer within the next 24 hours.
Please allow time for out vial construction engineer to reply. It shall not be too much longer I'm sure . I will post as soon as he replies with the composition of our vials.

Thank you for your patience.
 
I don't think the question was unreasonable either and I appreciate you trying to give me another avenue with PPL but I'm out.

If the rep can't handle something as small as this, there is no way he will be able to be trusted to handle a larger issue should one arise.

I have never jumped through hoops or accepted indignant arrogance from anyone and just said oh, okay ... here's my money anyhow and I am not about to start now.

And this instance has raised a lot of red flags for me and should for others.

IMHO, as far as Panda goes, he should reel Rob in or find someone else who doesn't run potential new or repeated business off.

But, I'm not Panda and it's not my business, so there you go.

Thank you for your concern. The vials are not borosilicate. He's also not aware of any vials on the market that are borosilicate. There are a few advertised as such, however they are not, they are just regular vials.

And please contact panda and let him know what a horrible job I'm doing. Especially considering it took nearly 24 hrs to get your answer.
 
Thank you for your concern. The vials are not borosilicate. He's also not aware of any vials on the market that are borosilicate. There are a few advertised as such, however they are not, they are just regular vials.

And please contact panda and let him know what a horrible job I'm doing. Especially considering it took nearly 24 hrs to get your answer.

Well thanks for the reply.

And whether you or anyone else believes it, there are *certified* borosilicate vials available other places.
Easy to test them as well. Put them in the freezer and then straight into a pre heated oven.
If they crack, they are not borosilicate, if they survive they indeed are genuine.

As far as the letting Panda know how "horrible of a job you are doing" I'm not interested in nor wasting energy in doing such.

I'll just move along.

Here's wishing you no ill will.

Enjoy the rest of your weekend
 
Order in. T/A will be an interesting review in current climate (corona virus shipping disruptions) will keep all updated but if this Panda can make it happen right now i dont think anyone should worry about this guys shipping abilities but we will see I promise to give Updates
 
I got this info from every news source in the US that "Right now, all sorts of products aren't reaching the U.S. because of the coronavirus outbreak that originated in Wuhan, China, officially called COVID-19. Reciprocally, many U.S. agricultural and forestry products aren't shipping back into China and other Pacific Rim countries. Global trade watchers say backed-up trade is building up on both sides of the Pacific Ocean"(feb 20th). Im glad you have not experienced any of this tho because I have put an order in because i need a new raw source (one I had for years disappeared). Anyway it was a bit concerning thought id bring it up

This is absolutely fake. Please stop spreading what you hear without actually running to ground your information before you spread it.

I’m shipping agricultural product FOB Seattle to Japan and China. I’m also receiving back any spoiled c cans rejected at port in the same timeline as usual.

The only slowdown is really on China’s factory workers and lowering production... thus less goods being shipped.

Some cities have had checkpoints and restrictions hindering trucking fleets and transportation to the ports affecting drayage, but this should not be impacting any source here unless he/she is shipping enough tonnage to fill a c can.
 
This is absolutely fake. Please stop spreading what you hear without actually running to ground your information before you spread it.

I’m shipping agricultural product FOB Seattle to Japan and China. I’m also receiving back any spoiled c cans rejected at port in the same timeline as usual.

The only slowdown is really on China’s factory workers and lowering production... thus less goods being shipped.

Some cities have had checkpoints and restrictions hindering trucking fleets and transportation to the ports affecting drayage, but this should not be impacting any source here unless he/she is shipping enough tonnage to fill a c can.

This is 100% factual and true.
 
@purplepandalabs @Kingsmountain

I wasn’t even sure what vials I was buying until all this borosilicate talk came up and all be damned if the ones that I buy aren’t them. And they are the best price I can find.

“Vials are made of high-quality USP type 1 borosilicate glass, and can withstand temperatures up to 500°C and pressures of 600kPa.”
You better slow your roll. Rob is about to get all bitchy on you.
 
You better slow your roll. Rob is about to get all bitchy on you.

mine are Wheaton.
Lol I wasn’t going to say anything I just assumed the person he spoke with meant in China. None were available in China? It has to be what was meant .... just has to be. Because .....
 
mine are Wheaton.
Lol I wasn’t going to say anything I just assumed the person he spoke with meant in China. None were available in China? It has to be what was meant .... just has to be. Because .....

Not sure... Was just what I was told. I think that part of it is that they aren't made to fit our stealth, in regard to size and shape. They're available, I can see that, just not in that specific size.
 
Yea if they're available on med lab I cant imagine they're hard to find.
@purplepandalabs @Kingsmountain

I wasn’t even sure what vials I was buying until all this borosilicate talk came up and all be damned if the ones that I buy aren’t them. And they are the best price I can find.

“Vials are made of high-quality USP type 1 borosilicate glass, and can withstand temperatures up to 500°C and pressures of 600kPa.”
 
Because why would they pay more for what should be a disposable item, that's containing a compound that will decompose at high heat? I really want to know why it matters.
 
It isn’t just high heat.

It’s the fact that the glassware doesn’t break down and leach.

Not to mention you can drop the vials on the floor accidentally and the odds of them breaking are very slim, where as the cheaper vials they are sure to break.

& if you looked at the overall price of the name brand vials they aren’t really expensive at all. We are talking in the terms of pennies not dollars from a cost saving aspect.

these vials were once the standard and this wouldn’t even of been a topic of conversation just some sources started penny pinching and alas here we are having to ask ...

once again another good reason to just buy raws and brew your own. You have more options of control.

We are speaking of the same type of glass Pyrex brand USED to be made of.
 
Well, a lot of mail flies in cargo on passenger planes, since there are few passenger planes coming and going, I'd imagine cargo is to some extent impacted. Now if you only sent your mail via shipping container on boat, I have no idea if that is impacted at all. I'm watching to see if anyone is posting touchdowns.
 
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