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[Eman]

I'm the last guy who says, that 98% of DNP that is sold is not industrial grade and doesn't contain heavy metals - I've posted about it for YEARS on reddit SST.

Why do you say that? Have you tested a fair amount of DNP?

I'm extremely skeptical that 98% isn't industrial grade... I find that VERY difficult to believe.

As far as it being a marketing ploy, I get where you're coming from and I don't often defend a source but I am doubtful of this as well... I don't think Dinitro needed or wanted anymore business than he was already getting.

 

[janoshik]

The majority of Chinese DNP is not lab-made. It’s made by industrial chemical companies for the mining industry, and as they’ve discovered that people want DNP for fat loss purposes they’ve simply diverted stock to re-sell on the black market.

Nope. The large batches of DNP are bought from industrial providers and then sold in smaller batches by other people than original manufacturers. Industrial DNP is unavailable in anything other than barrel size package.

Unless some company decided to invest a lot of bucks to redo their packing size for people who want to lose weight (lol) since last I looked into this.

Trust me, I know.

Also, it's incredibly easy to make DNP in ANY basic laboratory, it's one step synthesis with 99%+ yield from my experience.

Some even go as far as advertising it as “weight loss drug”, etc., on their listings. But it’s the SAME stuff they’re making for mining and fungicide uses. They may claim 99% purity, but it’s not; remember this is where factories leach lead and cadmium and mercury into stuff that’s SUPPOSED to be pure (like children’s toys, dog food, medical supplies, etc.), so don’t expect stuff made for their mines to somehow be pharmaceutically pure just because they swear on the internet that it is.

FUD FUD FUD

It takes a milligram of lead in an entire kilogram of DNP to cause irreparable nerve damage.

This one is a real gold. It shows the guy has absolutely no fucking idea.

Normal cow milk contains 0.3mg of lead in kg of dried mass. [http://www.agriculturejournals.cz/publicFiles/53200.pdf]

Guinea pigs don't die even after 20 GRAMS of lead/kg of BW is given.

Kids with undeveloped hematoencephalic barrier (so kids UNDER 6 years) are most sensitive to lead - subclinical (therefore not really visible) damage happens when total blood level of lead is about 0.3mg. That means ingestion of WELL over 1mg. That means, if you stuff you kid with 1kg of DNP in a single day with 1 mg of lead in it literally nothing will happen to the kid (due to lead, other trouble may arise).

Now with adults who have developed hematoencephalic barrier and don't weight 20 kilos...

 

[Leonard Washington]

Go into work tomorrow look at your boss and say

So you're telling me i have a bag of explosives at home and I've been feeding my boss dynamite??

Nice!!!

 

[janoshik]

Why do you say that? Have you tested a fair amount of DNP?

I'm extremely skeptical that 98% isn't industrial grade... I find that VERY difficult to believe.

As far as it being a marketing ploy, I get where you're coming from and I don't often defend a source but I am doubtful of this as well... I don't think Dinitro needed or wanted anymore business than he was already getting.

I was writing a more detailed reaction - it's above right now.

The man lies and spreads FUD in order to get more business - I hate that kind of people and I'd be happy if I was mistaken and he was just misguided. But the whole narrative is so it fits the marketing, so that makes me very suspicious...

Now I have heard only good things of the guy, but really.
One mg of lead in a kg of DNP being a problem and causing irreparable damage?
Maybe if you down a kilo of DNP a day for a month. That is an absolute and clear lie.
I'm not telling you to trust me - but it's easy to look that up.

I've tested fair share of DNP and in fact I have made DNP for myself as well. Back when I had access to testing for heavy metals I've used it - DNP indeed has issues, but nothing of note unless you are on it for long term (ie months), or you are already having other source of exposure.

I felt it was safest for me to just make myself a few grams to use. Nowdays, if I want any I'll probably just buy it off Sigma.

Industrial grade is indeed 98%+.

 

[Jak3d]

did you keep the fat off you? how long did you run it for?

Ya I kept it off but I could have done it with cardio and proper diet. I would have lost more if I could excersise and I was hungry every five minutes on it. I ran it for three weeks total. First week 250mg then I think 350 or 300 the second week. The last day of the two weeks is when I felt like I was going to die that night. I took three days off and did another week at only 200mg. I didn't lose anything the last week.

 

[janoshik]

Also, from my experience the best way to dry DNP is put it into something made of glass with a pack of silica gel (I assume most people don't have exicators).

Don't store it dry, it definitely can produce a mild explosion and fire and also, the fine dry powder gets anywhere. If you accidentally breathe it, you are in for a ride.

 

[Apexvallen]

Coughing fit? or worse?

 

[janoshik]

Coughing fit? or worse?

I'm not proud of it, but I managed to do that and I got really bad cough - imagine tren, but the worst part is that the irritation of the throat and the lungs lasted for well over a week.
Maybe even two.

If you've ever vomited many times in a row and then the back of the throat felt really really bad - that's what I can probably compare it to. No amount of water seemed to help.

Now imagine that in the lungs as well.

I haven't used DNP in a very long time now, but after I got this experience, I stored it only wet and in glass containers (if wet enough DNP leaks yellow through everything but glass - ziplock bags, nitrile gloves etc).

When I was about to use it I'd put some into exicator with silica gel and it got dry pretty fast, I'd dose it afterwards - but I've always prepared only like 8-10 caps at 200mg. I'm very sensitive to DNP, dripping sweat even at 100mg a day, while some of my friends don't even feel 250 mgs at all.

 

[Grrrr]

Jano, when something like DNP is 99.whatever percent pure, what is that last 1% composed of?

 

[Savagesteve]

Jano, when something like DNP is 99.whatever percent pure, what is that last 1% composed of?

Bull Milk.

 

[janoshik]

Jano, when something like DNP is 99.whatever percent pure, what is that last 1% composed of?

The GC/MS results showed other positional isomers and some tiny bit of unreacted source compounds. The biggest contaminants being stuff like 2,6 DNP etc.

 

[Domino23]

I'm with ya. I've gotta heart murmur. Have had it from birth and the doctor said it'd never be an issue or keep me from doing physical activities. I feel like this would be playing with fire, though.

Curious as to why that would matter. From what I understand dnp is not a stimulant, doesn't mess with heart rate

 

[mirkocrocop13]

First order from panda. Paid for order on the 6th, shipped the 7th and arrived here today (13th). in Canada btw.

Needles to say im impressed. Lol

 

[janoshik]

Curious as to why that would matter. From what I understand dnp is not a stimulant, doesn't mess with heart rate

True!

I'd still be cautious, though, as DNP can very easily lead to dehydration / electrolyte disbalance.

Increased heart output is there as well, due to general vasodilatation ( your veins increase their diameter, so more blood flows through, mostly close to skin, so it can cool more efficiently. however, this means that heart has to pump blood through 'bigger pipes' putting more strain on it).

 

[Jak3d]

Curious as to why that would matter. From what I understand dnp is not a stimulant, doesn't mess with heart rate

it's not a direct stimulant but you're putting poison in it and it effects every cell in your body. That's a huge amount of stress you put on all your organs.

 

[System7]

More like a mixture of explosives, pesticides and carcinogens. But yeah.

Fuck Dnp. If I'm gonna poison myself I'll do it with gin thank you very much.

 

[Oldschool]

Fuck Dnp. If I'm gonna poison myself I'll do it with gin thank you very much.

No tonic? Like you even more now.

 

[Grrrr]

No tonic? Like you even more now.

Tonic is disgusting. I don't understand how people ruin gin with that shit.

 

[Deuce80]

So I'm G2G?

 

[System7]

No tonic? Like you even more now.

Yep. And limes to protect me from scurvy.
*cucumbers if I'm drinking Hendricks