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[RobertL]

With some of the recent posts about PIP/possible infections (though not common and possibly due to the fault of the user), and just general concerns

If sterilizing UGL gear what are the temps to do it at?

I remember reading

• 250f for 30 minutes for test E/C/P (Test in general)
• 215f for 2 hours for Tren

Anyone know nandrolone (cyp/npp) sterilization temps before the gear starts breaking down?

 

[Evom1]

With some of the recent posts about PIP/possible infections (though not common and possibly due to the fault of the user), and just general concerns

If sterilizing UGL gear what are the temps to do it at?

I remember reading

• 250f for 30 minutes for test E/C/P (Test in general)
• 215f for 2 hours for Tren

Anyone know nandrolone (cyp/npp) sterilization temps before the gear starts breaking down?

I believe the preferred method is to filter it through a sterile 0.2um syringe filter into a new sterile vile.

I think these issues are from the carrier oil tho

 

[RobertL]

I believe the preferred method is to filter it through a sterile 0.2um syringe filter into a new sterile vile.

I think these issues are from the carrier oil tho

According to "Anabolics 11th edition: William Llewellyn" that's not the case. It's definitely preferred to sterilize with heat.

Just doesn't state the temps for nandrolone from what I remember.

https://www.amazon.com/ANABOLICS-11th-William-Llewellyn/dp/0999062115/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1512411650&sr=8-1&keywords=anabolics

 

[ickyrica]

YOU DO NOT USE HEAT TO STERILIZE YOUR BREWED GEAR!!!!!!!!!!

YOU USE A FILTER TO STERILIZE GEAR!!!!!!

YOU USE DRY HEAT TO STERILIZE GLASS, i.e. VIALS

AGAIN, FOR THE NEW BREWER, YOU DO NOT USE HEAT TO STERILIZE "FINISHED OILS"

 

[ickyrica]

I think these issues are from the carrier oil tho

This is exactly the case. If it was a sterility issue Panda wouldn't be selling shit right now. It was a carrier issue and that's all.

Please guys, don't think baking your gear will make it sterile. It isn't a cake. It needs to be filtered, no exceptions. Filter it into a sterile media bottle, transfer into sterile vial via sterile method. cap with sterile stopper. done.

 

[RobertL]

YOU DO NOT USE HEAT TO STERILIZE YOUR BREWED GEAR!!!!!!!!!!

YOU USE A FILTER TO STERILIZE GEAR!!!!!!

YOU USE DRY HEAT TO STERILIZE GLASS, i.e. VIALS

AGAIN, FOR THE NEW BREWER, YOU DO NOT USE HEAT TO STERILIZE "FINISHED OILS"

This is exactly the case. If it was a sterility issue Panda wouldn't be selling shit right now. It was a carrier issue and that's all.

Please guys, don't think baking your gear will make it sterile. It isn't a cake. It needs to be filtered, no exceptions. Filter it into a sterile media bottle, transfer vial sterile method into sterile vials. cap with sterile stopper. done.

Source? I'm referencing a book specifically. I'll get page numbers and pictures if you'd like when I can.

They mention heating first. Filter second.

Edit

Also I'm aware it's from the carrier oil causing issues. But for precautionary purposes I don't see any harm in sterilizing just in case.

 

[ickyrica]

Source? I'm referencing a book specifically. I'll get page numbers and pictures if you'd like when I can.

They mention heating first. Filter second.

If you feel like putting the gear in the oven to sterilize it, go for it. Me personally and every single other brewer on this and every other site known to man kind will tell you to use dry heat to sterilize your glass and use a filter to clean your gear. Funny thing is people follow this method because that's how the pharmacopoeia world handles it. Seems to work out well for them.

I'm bookmarking this convo so when you have jungle rot in your ass cheek or thigh and want to blame it on Panda we can reference this and point you in the correct direction. I beg you to research a member named @ddp7. You are making the same mistakes he did and he had serious issues from it, like a hole in his leg serious

be safe

 

[LordSamuilo]

They mention heating first. Filter second.

Ahhh Exactly proving everyones point , If the heat is sterilizing it why even bother filtering it all afterwards ? It needs filtered to insure sterilization , peroid ... js

 

[Avablanch892]

@Avablanch892 that's what happens when the original orders come after the reship.
I thought u said u hadn't received any reships?

Ok Ill explain again.

I ordered an original order that was snagged I recieved FDA letter. I asked you to reship the package. I got an email saying there was reship a inbound.

I received what I originally order in 2 separate packages instead of one. Guessing stealth. Everything I order was in these two packages.

Now I just received a third package becuase I was sent an email of another shipment being sent out after the orginal reship was sent. However this third one came extremely fast and I recieved 3 separate packages from the same shipper all within a week.

All I’m asking that if there was an error on your side to please stop sending packages as this was a friend of mine I ask to cover because my address was flagged and you asked me to supply a different address.

I don’t mind receiving free gear but at this point it’s starting to look sketchy to have my buddy sign three different packages all within a week.

 

[Budlee]

Just an update for everyone. Had a domestic land today. Test cyp and Tren ace and everything is gso.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

This is exactly the case. If it was a sterility issue Panda wouldn't be selling shit right now. It was a carrier issue and that's all.

Please guys, don't think baking your gear will make it sterile. It isn't a cake. It needs to be filtered, no exceptions. Filter it into a sterile media bottle, transfer into sterile vial via sterile method. cap with sterile stopper. done.

The only time i ever heated or "baked" my gear was in an attempt to burn off, what i suspected, was too much BA.

i always thought that the temperature needed to kill bacteria would be so high that it damages the hormone in the process?

 

[AnTabolic73]

Mmmmmmmm pasteurized gear

 

[ickyrica]

i always thought that the temperature needed to kill bacteria would be so high that it damages the hormone in the process?

I am not that sure because I haven't read anything that I would consider real medical/science based evidence one way or another but the rumor is that high heat isn't good for the hormones. Tren can oxidize and that has always been something that people seem to cry foul over. I would imagine that the substances with a lower melting point would be more susceptible to damage from higher heat, but again I'm not sure.

Baking your gear aside, @RobertL you are filtering your gear with the appropriate size filter, correct?

 

[Jeffg353]

Could be misunderstanding what ur reading. Yes they do heat the oil it helps get it to mix homogeneoisly n also makes passing it through the filter a little easier. It's not for sterilization purposes.

 

[Thegreek]

Just something to think about not picking a side or a for or against but in a survival situation you would boil water at 212F and that would kill all biological contaminates. That temp is easily achieved when brewing. However it clearly states that boiling water will only destroy biological contaminates and will not destroy chemical or other types of contamination to the water. I think this is where filtering in brewing plays a much larger role. To remove ALL contaminants.

 

[penche]

Heating finished oils is a waste of time in regards to sterilization. Learn how to filter and brew the first time and you’re done. Heating finished oils is best to remove trapped moisture.

 

[elitesales305]

@PurplePandaLabs Rep. Any idea of when domestic will be fully stocked w finished oils? That $50 shipping kinda turns me off w the international..

ummm paintball?? yeaaaa uve been made niqqaaaa hahahaha we prolly know each otehr

 

[PurplePandaLabs Rep.]

Ok Ill explain again.

I ordered an original order that was snagged I recieved FDA letter. I asked you to reship the package. I got an email saying there was reship a inbound.

I received what I originally order in 2 separate packages instead of one. Guessing stealth. Everything I order was in these two packages.

Now I just received a third package becuase I was sent an email of another shipment being sent out after the orginal reship was sent. However this third one came extremely fast and I recieved 3 separate packages from the same shipper all within a week.

All I’m asking that if there was an error on your side to please stop sending packages as this was a friend of mine I ask to cover because my address was flagged and you asked me to supply a different address.

I don’t mind receiving free gear but at this point it’s starting to look sketchy to have my buddy sign three different packages all within a week.

I will see how many they sent I assumed it was the original order that didn't actually get snagged as this has happened but yeah if their giving away free shit forward it to me. Lol

 

[PurplePandaLabs Rep.]

Just an update for everyone. Had a domestic land today. Test cyp and Tren ace and everything is gso.

Thanks for the update I will be glad when it's all gso again.

 

[Budlee]

Thanks for the update I will be glad when it's all gso again.

Np...haha I’m sure you will. It’s gotts be close at this point