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[androgenics89]

Cancer forms when uneducated people spread random medical bullshit.

STOP GIVING HARMFUL ADVICE YOU MISGUIDED TWAT.

Very educated response

 

[Professor Karman]

Research alkaline and acidic. Cancer forms when the body becomes too acidic, which is the same for diseases in the body. Bring the body back to an alkaline state and the cancer will go away. It cannot survive in alkaline state this is all cancer not just some cancers.

Have your mom take an alkaline test, you can even get a cheap ph test to pee on at any health food store. Her body will reveal it to be more on the acidic side. If she is already doing chemo, then have her switch her diet to a alkaline diet while doing the chemo. And I pray that she gets beats the hell out of the cancer ! I'll start trying to find the papers I read on the chemo in my spare time and post them for you.

The microenvironment around cancer cells is certainly acidic because it uses energy differently than regular cells I believe. Not sure that it means that cancer actually forms because the body is too acidic. I haven't seen the literature on that so I am not going to say you're wrong though.

My mom is doing pretty well right now. She was diagonosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer almost 2 years ago and has had different treatments and has responded well to them so far. She had surgery and then chemo at first and it worked well for a while and then it came back. She is now on a trial with some less harsh chemo treaments and her Cat scans and cancer markers are all good...fingers crossed.

 

[janoshik]

Very educated response

And what do you expect me to do?

To write essays, quote publications and use elaborate logic on every misguided twat and quack there is?

 

[janoshik]

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Previously, the acid-alkaline diet was thought to be some crazy, vegan hippie myth. But even Dr. Otto Warburg, who dedicated his life to researching cancer cells, won a Nobel prize for proving that cancer cells cannot survive in an alkaline environment

 

[ulfbehrt]

What is your opinion on this then Jano?

 

[androgenics89]

And what do you expect me to do?

To write essays, quote publications and use elaborate logic on every misguided twat and quack there is?

I expect you to debate with your own theories/research instead of dropping a comment like that. If you have something to say at least attempt to back it up

 

[Professor Karman]

I expect you to debate with your own theories/research instead of dropping a comment like that. If you have something to say at least attempt to back it up

I get his point though. People, many with no agendas, spend their lives working on this stuff. It is sort of akin to when I get calls in my office ( I am a professor in an Aerospace/Mechanical engineering department) from quacks who think they can build a perpetual motion machine. You try and be nice and explain that the 1st law of thermodynamics doesn't allow it and then they get mad at you and hang-up...

 

[janoshik]

What is your opinion on this then Jano?

Consider how had medicine moved in past 10 years.

Now, realize that Mr. Warburg received Nobel Prize 80 years or something like that ago.

I don't have an opinion, because I have the education, which leaves very little room for subjective opinions.

I expect you to debate with your own theories/research instead of dropping a comment like that. If you have something to say at least attempt to back it up

Like me having formal education from one of the worlds best med schools?

I don't have any own theories and the research is not necessary to refute stuff that 2nd graders in med school can tear apart.




1. There is not EASY cure for cancer, cancer is not 1 thing, it's literally millions of different diseases. Anybody who claims there is one ultimate cure is liar, stupid and should be treated as such. And had his shit sued to oblivion, so he can cry to his twitter followers about big pharma.

2. Chemo is saving lives. Is it awful? Yes. Does it work? Yes. Basically the faster the cancer cells proliferate (multiply) the better target for chemo they are. Do you have colon cancer that have been growing for 10 years? You are fucked, you'd die from chemo before it'd kill the cancer. Catch the drift? It's not ultimate cure.

3. Do you choose to trust medical professionals who had dedicated their lives to saving people or some random guy on the internet who wouldn't know if you died tomorrow?

4. Do you believe that all the medical professionals and pharmaceutical companies are onto BIG BIG conspiracy involving literally EVERYBODY in the field? I suggest you do reading on names like Salk (polio vaccine) and companies delivering free insulin to those in need. Or doctors without border. Or like a million other people in medical industry who are doing selfless acts EVERY DAY. Do they seem like the kind of the people who'd ALL KEEP QUIET about a cure?

 

[SouthernFryed]

Cancer forms when uneducated people spread random medical bullshit.

STOP GIVING HARMFUL ADVICE YOU MISGUIDED TWAT.

Cancer is a by-product of the the industrial revolution. As the agricultural revolution brought us pestilence and famine, so now we have what is (IMO) the worst possible plague; our own bodies becoming a source of pathological disease.

When my wife told me there were new-born babies that had developed cancers in their own mother’s wombs, I was incredulous. When cancer is present at the genesis of human life, something is horribly, unnaturally wrong in the balance of things.

 

[androgenics89]

I get his point though. People, many with no agendas, spend their lives working on this stuff. It is sort of akin to when I get calls in my office ( I am a professor in an Aerospace/Mechanical engineering department) from quacks who think they can build a perpetual motion machine. You try and be nice and explain that the 1st law of thermodynamics doesn't allow it and then they get mad at you and hang-up...

I don’t believe that translates into this situation. There’s a lot of information supporting BOTH theories. It’s not like this is being pulled from thin air. I personally believe big pharma is corrupt and would have us believe that their way is the only way when there are other solutions. They are driven by greed and power. I would rather question everything instead of following the masses. And there are many success stories supporting the natural alternatives!

 

[androgenics89]

Consider how had medicine moved in past 10 years.

Now, realize that Mr. Warburg received Nobel Prize 80 years or something like that ago.

I don't have an opinion, because I have the education, which leaves very little room for subjective opinions.


Like me having formal education from one of the worlds best med schools?

I don't have any own theories and the research is not necessary to refute stuff that 2nd graders in med school can tear apart.




1. There is not EASY cure for cancer, cancer is not 1 thing, it's literally millions of different diseases. Anybody who claims there is one ultimate cure is liar, stupid and should be treated as such. And had his shit sued to oblivion, so he can cry to his twitter followers about big pharma.

2. Chemo is saving lives. Is it awful? Yes. Does it work? Yes. Basically the faster the cancer cells proliferate (multiply) the better target for chemo they are. Do you have colon cancer that have been growing for 10 years? You are fucked, you'd die from chemo before it'd kill the cancer. Catch the drift? It's not ultimate cure.

3. Do you choose to trust medical professionals who had dedicated their lives to saving people or some random guy on the internet who wouldn't know if you died tomorrow?

4. Do you believe that all the medical professionals and pharmaceutical companies are onto BIG BIG conspiracy involving literally EVERYBODY in the field? I suggest you do reading on names like Salk (polio vaccine) and companies delivering free insulin to those in need. Or doctors without border. Or like a million other people in medical industry who are doing selfless acts EVERY DAY. Do they seem like the kind of the people who'd ALL KEEP QUIET about a cure?

FWIW I also do believe in modern medicine. However I think it’s healthy practice to research and question everything. I’ll pick this conversation back up when I get off work, thanks for the response.

 

[Roger rabbit]

Very educated response

It's not harmful advice. Ive given what some people in my family has done to beat cancer and chose a different route than what the big pharma wanted them to do. I never said it was for everyone and each has their own choice.

But funny that you showed a cartoon image of people who believe in vitamins... but all the images of viruses and diseases on the internet are all drawn in cartoon or computer generated images... wonder what they really look like?

 

[janoshik]

Cancer is a by-product of the the industrial revolution. As the agricultural revolution brought us pestilence and famine, so now we have what is (IMO) the worst possible plague; our own bodies becoming a source of pathological disease.

When my wife told me there were new-born babies that had developed cancers in their own mother’s wombs, I was incredulous. When cancer is present at the genesis of human life, something is horribly, unnaturally wrong in the balance of things.

No it is not. You cannot support your statement. Don't spread bullshit.

Cancer was always here, but you know, medical records kinda were not kept.

Hell, you can find greek writers giving description of various cancers... That's why we use the goddamn word cancer for it.

I don’t believe that translates into this situation. There’s a lot of information supporting BOTH theories. It’s not like this is being pulled from thin air. I personally believe big pharma is corrupt and would have us believe that their way is the only way when there are other solutions. They are driven by greed and power. I would rather question everything instead of following the masses. And there are many success stories supporting the natural alternatives!

It translates perfectly into the situation.

There are no information based upon established FACTS and LOGIC that support the "other" side.

So you disagree with my point 3 and 4 in https://thinksteroids.com/community...bs-raw-source.134383828/page-814#post-2097018 ?

Also you cannot interchange correlation with causation.

FWIW I also do believe in modern medicine. However I think it’s healthy practice to research and question everything. I’ll pick this conversation back up when I get off work, thanks for the response.

It is, you are correct.

And 'alternative medicine' doesn't survive the first pass through basic logic and research.

It's not harmful advice. Ive given what some people in my family has done to beat cancer and chose a different route than what the big pharma wanted them to do. I never said it was for everyone and each has their own choice.

But funny that you showed a cartoon image of people who believe in vitamins... but all the images of viruses and diseases on the internet are all drawn in cartoon or computer generated images... wonder what they really look like?

You don't sound like the sharpest knife in the drawer.

That cartoon image had a point which had nothing to do with vitamins, but it flew right over your head.

...

Please, enjoy the following images.

If you'll be a good boy and agree to wear a straitjacket I can get you a peek to microbio laboratory and electron microscope as well.

 

[Budlee]

Known fact that chemo kills 50% of the people being treated with it. Never understood why people partake in chemo when you have the same chance to live if you don't take it.

I watched my father 6’-4” 275lbs wither away to nothing from chemo. The cancer is bad but the chemo is worse. Smh

 

[Roger rabbit]

No it is not. You cannot support your statement. Don't spread bullshit.

Cancer was always here, but you know, medical records kinda were not kept.

Hell, you can find greek writers giving description of various cancers... That's why we use the goddamn word cancer for it.

It translates perfectly into the situation.

There are no information based upon established FACTS and LOGIC that support the "other" side.

So you disagree with my point 3 and 4 in https://thinksteroids.com/community...bs-raw-source.134383828/page-814#post-2097018 ?

Also you cannot interchange correlation with causation.


It is, you are correct.

And 'alternative medicine' doesn't survive the first pass through basic logic and research.


You don't sound like the sharpest knife in the drawer.

That cartoon image had a point which had nothing to do with vitamins, but it flew right over your head.

...

Please, enjoy the following images.

If you'll be a good boy and agree to wear a straitjacket I can get you a peek to microbio laboratory and electron microscope as well.

No I got the point dumbass. You obviously didn't get my point and it flew over your head dipshit.

How about instead of attacking members, you have an actual conversation. And for the record the oldest known cancer documented case was 2700 years ago and was found in Russia. I'm well read and versed you fuck nut, it's not like I just spew vomit from my mouth like you.

 

[Roger rabbit]

I watched my father 6’-4” 275lbs wither away to nothing from chemo. The cancer is bad but the chemo is worse. Smh

Yeah chemo is horrible man. Modern medicine has its time and place for sure, but I'm just so against chemo. I've witnessed the same thing and it's horrible to watch.

 

[janoshik]

No I got the point dumbass. You obviously didn't get my point and it flew over your head dipshit.

Suure. You sound kinda mad.

How about instead of attacking members, you have an actual conversation.

What am I supposed, to pamper you? Maybe then the baby wouldn't get so mad.

And for the record the oldest known cancer documented case was 2700 years ago and was found in Russia. I'm well read and versed you fuck nut, it's not like I just spew vomit from my mouth like you.

Suuuure, well read and versed.
Spewing one random fact suuurely makes up for years of formal education.

Get fucked nutjob and stop spreading bullshit before you get rightfully sued for that.

Earliest Human Cancer Found in 1.7-Million-Year-Old Bone

 

[janoshik]

Yeah chemo is horrible man. Modern medicine has its time and place for sure, but I'm just so against chemo. I've witnessed the same thing and it's horrible to watch.

Yeah, why don't we just let the kids with leukemia shoot themselves in the head.

What about those who can't shoot themselves? Will you help them out?

Getting wrecked by chemo and then being alive for another 70 healthy years sure beats that for me, but whatever floats your boat.

 

[Roger rabbit]

Yeah, why don't we just let the kids with leukemia shoot themselves in the head.

What about those who can't shoot themselves? Will you help them out?

Getting wrecked by chemo and then being alive for another 70 healthy years sure beats that for me, but whatever floats your boat.

What is your obsession for shooting one self? I don't think that is the answer.

 

[Roger rabbit]

Suure. You sound kinda mad.


What am I supposed, to pamper you? Maybe then the baby wouldn't get so mad.


Suuuure, well read and versed.
Spewing one random fact suuurely makes up for years of formal education.

Get fucked nutjob and stop spreading bullshit before you get rightfully sued for that.

Earliest Human Cancer Found in 1.7-Million-Year-Old Bone

Thanks for the correction on the oldest record. I've learned something.

I'm humble enough to learn something and not keep a narrow mind.