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No body bought it from me.
Ask Alisa about the second part if you want to know if someone bought it from her, which is possible. But I don't care about this part.
So just to understand you. This person bought from Alisa on Whatsapp QSC reta(and supposedly you were involved in the communications with Alisa), and there is only 1 batch of 10mg reta(with orange top coincidentally); but you don't give a shit? I guess after the 25th and the test came back; the stock magically transformed from 4 to 10mg.
 
Look, you guys are missing the point. The person who send the vial in has been vetted and the test is legit. You may not like the results, but they are real!
 
So just to understand you. This person bought from Alisa on Whatsapp QSC reta(and supposedly you were involved in the communications with Alisa), and there is only 1 batch of 10mg reta(with orange top coincidentally); but you don't give a shit? I guess after the 25th and the test came back; the stock magically transformed from 4 to 10mg.
You are a moron, not worth the answer, since you can't understand english. Back to the ignore.
 
You are a moron, not worth the answer, since you can't understand english. Back to the ignore.
I figured maybe you learned something from last time, but clearly you didn't. AT least Cool Achieve owns up to things when their stuff comes back underdosed and fixes the problem. Instead you just deny and attack as if it is someone elses fault.
 
Here you guys go: https://discord.gg/BSjBJm7Atf

That is a link to go join the discord testing server. Like I said, I was banned a long time ago and don't have access to it. I believe Tracy and/or Alisa is actually part of it. You can go there and question the vial sender, the admin, or whomever you want and prove they are a fraud; since everyone is so sure of themselves.
 
At the end of the day, we have seen one good test and one bad test. Let’s see what happens with a third or fourth test. It could legit be a one off. It’s foolish to make assumptions until we see other test results. The range is very strange and until I see more results, I’m not going to jump to any conclusions just yet.
 
At the end of the day, we have seen one good test and one bad test. Let’s see what happens with a third or fourth test. It could legit be a one off. It’s foolish to make assumptions until we see other test results. The range is very strange and until I see more results, I’m not going to jump to any conclusions just yet.
Actually the reta tests thus far have been very inconsistent throughout all vendors and the results have not been impressive as expected either.
 
Actually the reta tests thus far have been very inconsistent throughout all vendors and the results have not been impressive as expected either.
You are correct. It’s new and will probably be this way until they get their hands on the Lilly product to test it and fine tune their processes. I knew this going into it but was still willing to try it out anyway. Still sucks they have a shitty result on their record now but when they have been great in other products I have purchased and used with great results, it’s hard to be mad until I see more results roll in.
 
You sell pink caps at 4mg.

You sell orange caps at 10mg.

A test comes back at 4mg and the only identifier—because you goofballs absolutely refuse to label anything—is the cap color, which as has been established ~11,000 means nothing.

Isn’t the most obvious answer here that the test is correct, but at some point the caps ended up wrong? Human error is way more likely than whatever fakakta bullshit conspiracy anyone is going to come up with.
 
Lol, as if it’s some elite group? “We”, as in the consumers who are supposed to blindly trust a group of people, some of whom may be in bed with suppliers or vendors (or be them themselves). Because bet your ass whoever is shady in this scenario will get blasted all over ever single platform related to peptides.
Not elite by any means - they let in shitposting conspiracy theorists like you who are too lazy to do the 3 minutes of searching and reading to connect the dots.
 
I believe @gburdell said he already shipped retatrutide from qsc and other source already to Jano. So looking forward to the results of both.

What is strange Is the cap color comment the buyer put on the report. Appears Jano didn't put the color of the cap on it, which I thought he always did.
 
You sell pink caps at 4mg.

You sell orange caps at 10mg.

A test comes back at 4mg and the only identifier—because you goofballs absolutely refuse to label anything—is the cap color, which as has been established ~11,000 means nothing.

Isn’t the most obvious answer here that the test is correct, but at some point the caps ended up wrong? Human error is way more likely than whatever fakakta bullshit conspiracy anyone is going to come up with.
No because the samples tested and the cap colors of samples were posted along with the testing results and raw data the 26th september:

and I sent an email today to Janoshik to double check the tops colors he tested, waiting for his reply.
 
No because the samples tested and the cap colors of samples were posted along with the testing results and raw data the 26th september:

and I sent an email to Janoshik to double check the tops colors he tested today, waiting for his reply.
Out of curiosity, when you produce these peptides, don’t you do one batch at a time? I’m not an engineer by any stretch of the way but I find it hard to believe caps can get messed up when you are producing one batch at a time. If you watch the video posted of your processing center, I don’t see how it would be possible for caps to get switched when you are only making one product at a time. Just trying to put that scenario to bed but I could be way off.
 
Someone needs a sandwich and a nap.

For real though you might consider a break from this thread, you never seem like you’re getting much joy from it.
Sorry, I just lack patience for stupidity. The vial is a legit vial of QSC reta that was sent for testing. But Tracy wants to dodge and divert answering questions directly and all the dick riders want to come to his defense.
 
Out of curiosity, when you produce these peptides, don’t you do one batch at a time? I’m not an engineer by any stretch of the way but I find it hard to believe caps can get messed up when you are producing one batch at a time. If you watch the video posted of your processing center, I don’t see how it would be possible for caps to get switched when you are only making one product at a time. Just trying to put that scenario to bed but I could be way off.
I don't think there is room for confusion of the tops.
I had my doubts if they sold 4mg as 10mg and 10mg as 4mg, but when you see how janoshik marked the vials and the order of links of tests received, this scenario is not possible.
We are sure that 4mg are pink, 10mg are orange, and janoshik should be able to confirm that it's what he tested once he replies.
The only possibilities are:

1) Wrong sample sent by the donor of vial, but I think the color of top can be easily confirmed by janoshik. I don't know the donor, but I don't question his integrity without proof, I assume that he has no reason to send a 4mg instead of 10mg

2) Wrong test by janoshik, either the first one 10mg by us or this one 4mg done by customers, because it's the same batch. Mistakes can happen to testing facilities too. This can be confirmed only by testing it at another testing agency or if Janoshik retests or double check the data.

3) Big variance between vials, but this is hard to believe a bit especially that the test of the supplier tests perfectly and the test of customer tested poorly.

I have to admit It's the most confusing situation I've ever encountered and I don't wanna jump to any conclusion before seing more data. Especially that I don't mind to admit if the problem is on our end, especially for a new product, but the brain is having hard time to believe these results and I guess it's the case of everyone seing the same batch testing differently with a big gap.
 
I don't think there is room for confusion of the tops.
I had my doubts if they sold 4mg as 10mg and 10mg as 4mg, but when you see how janoshik marked the vials and the order of links of tests received, this scenario is not possible.
We are sure that 4mg are pink, 10mg are orange, and janoshik should be able to confirm that it's what he tested once he replies.
The only possibilities are:

1) Wrong sample sent by the donor of vial, but I think the color of top can be easily confirmed by janoshik. I don't know the donor, but I don't question his integrity without proof, I assume that he has no reason to send a 4mg instead of 10mg

2) Wrong test by janoshik, either the first one 10mg by us or this one 4mg done by customers, because it's the same batch. Mistakes can happen to testing facilities too. This can be confirmed only by testing it at another testing agency or if Janoshik retests or double check the data.

3) Big variance between vials, but this is hard to believe a bit especially that the test of the supplier tests perfectly and the test of customer tested poorly.

I have to admit It's the most confusing situation I've ever encountered and I don't wanna jump to any conclusion before seing more data. Especially that I don't mind to admit if the problem is on our end, especially for a new product, but the brain is having hard time to believe these results and I guess it's the case of everyone seing the same batch testing differently with a big gap.
This. Exactly…let’s get more data before everyone jumps the gun. If you are here and reading this thread, you are most likely a customer. If you are a customer and still here, you know that they have good products or you wouldn’t be here. It’s a new product and you all had to know the first batch would be dicey…it’s the first one without even seeing what is being produced by big pharma yet. I would not jump to any conclusions without more data. If you really break this down, it is a mind fuck. Their purity is spot on in both tests, the quantity is the issue…that seems off to me as machines produce this shit and guess what, machines can malfunction too. What if that one vial was the end of the process and it got the last of what was left which happened to be half the dose….sucks but it happens.
 
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