amindzeye
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Still waiting on an order that was shipped in the beginning of November. It's in an endless update loop at the same facility...
MESO-Rx
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Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic
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PushPullPl8s
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Guys, from my experience I can tell you that aside from *time* - you will get your belongings(so long as it's in the country and/or you paid insurance)
Make the order - get the big deals. Just have to be patient is all.
Where else you getting quality GH for $36/100iu?
Make the order - get the big deals. Just have to be patient is all.
Where else you getting quality GH for $36/100iu?
ShredSeason
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Only thing that mattered to me was being able to react on this forum, but I hit member and still can’t do it. Weird because I see new members that are able to. Oh well.Because colors matter
If Tracy is expecting results from Jano soon on several items BPC157 being one of them...can we put it on the order? It's not available US domestic, and crossed out on Intl list.
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ShredSeason
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Dude if you don’t like it go somewhere else fucking shit it’s been 2 pages now of reading your goddamn complaining about absolutely nothing. You’re too boring to be talking this much.
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readalot
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You read nothing of the sort. Keep up. Let me know you need help finding and comprehending what I did write.
Tracy stopped selling products before getting Jane results because of the clusterfucks it raised. He tried "buy at your own risk, this is not yet tested" warnings (I think maybe still had the 85% guarantee?) but a lot of random people here got pretty worked up about things that were sold before results came in and then results came in less than perfect and there was a big outcry about shitty business practices.
Too many customers aren't paying attention and can't responsibly buy pre-QA/QC products, it's hard for Tracy to know which customers are competent to make that choice for themselves, so he just stopped doing it altogether.
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readalot
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Thanks for your note.
You can read more on the background on what I am proposing here:
Source QC and C of A (do you have one?)
Some thoughts/suggestions for discussion after looking around here. Realistic, overkill, get what you pay for, don't care? Would like to hear members' thoughts, counterpoints, etc. especially on cost vs quality. The path to quality is known. Will people pay or too much for UGL customers...
thinksteroids.com
Yes Jano still offers metals testing via ICP. The bigger question is impurity analysis that will expand current scope of UGL testing for API ID and purity only.
I appreciate your time. I well aware of compounding pharmacy situation in the US with respect to AAS.
Jickzer
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FWIW I'm interested in similar topics. It would be "nice" to get a list of all the QA/QC things that FDA-approved drugs get tested for, and slowly grow the availability of those tests for customers/vendors/distributors/manufacturers who want to pay for it.Thanks for your note.
You can read more on the background on what I am proposing here:
Source QC and C of A (do you have one?)
Some thoughts/suggestions for discussion after looking around here. Realistic, overkill, get what you pay for, don't care? Would like to hear members' thoughts, counterpoints, etc. especially on cost vs quality. The path to quality is known. Will people pay or too much for UGL customers...
Yes Jano still offers metals testing via ICP. The bigger question is impurity analysis that will expand current scope of UGL testing for API ID and purity only.
I appreciate your time. I well aware of compounding pharmacy situation in the US with respect to AAS.
I understand why the USA doesn't have these services for controlled substances (I disagree with both "prohibition" and the myriad of ways that it hinders harm-reduction services...but I understand it).
Some things that keep me up at night though:
1) The FDA is currently doing a surprisingly shitty job[0] protecting over-paying consumers from very, very basic problems with drugs, increasingly so as more and more "FDA-approved" manufacturing facilities are built in India.
2) We don't have *any* consumer-facing services which even offer basic purity/dose testing for unregulated supplements like creatine / omega-3's / multi-vitamins.
It's crazy to me that I can get Janoshik to affordably test my AAS but can't get anyone to test my fish oil pills or vitamin C pills.
0 (FDA doing shitty job lately): The Pentagon Wants to Root Out Shoddy Drugs. The FDA Is In Its Way.
I sent the hash ID for payments on Whatsapp Wednesday morning. They haven't been read tho. I know you're busy, just making sure they're not overlooked.
You will not find any heavy metal residues in their stuff. Janoshik once had a post about it. It's so rare that even testing for it does not make any sense other than burning a hell of a lot money for these lab tests.
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readalot
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My proposal below (see bold)...
The real learning will be from including impurity ID and analysis along with existing API ID and purity. Hence the customer will come to understand what that other 1 to 5% is that comes along for the ride with the API.
And on your metals point I conceded that may be a non issue (has been in the past)...
Thank you for your comments.
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Jickzer
Member
In your experience when a substance tests at 98-99%, what is the other 1-2% typically?Thanks for your note.
You can read more on the background on what I am proposing here:
Source QC and C of A (do you have one?)
Some thoughts/suggestions for discussion after looking around here. Realistic, overkill, get what you pay for, don't care? Would like to hear members' thoughts, counterpoints, etc. especially on cost vs quality. The path to quality is known. Will people pay or too much for UGL customers...
Yes Jano still offers metals testing via ICP. The bigger question is impurity analysis that will expand current scope of UGL testing for API ID and purity only.
I appreciate your time. I well aware of compounding pharmacy situation in the US with respect to AAS.
Please give some examples of different types of materials and also how the impurities most likely got there.
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connoristiny
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where did u get these other numbers?They just told me on Whatsapp on their 2 whatsapp accounts ending(1880,0730) my money lost
lonewolf54321
Member
Shut the hell up bro. You will make that idiot keep spamming heavy metal testing blah blah blah.
gburdell
Member
I suggest that someone starts a thread on testing in the testing forum here: Analytical Lab Testing
I received tracking # 11/8, but still haven't received my pkg. Tracking said USPS is still awaiting item
Yeah I mean we all "know" there's no "heavy metals" in our AAS based on Jano's testing, except @readalot . I'm surprised to hear that Jano does actually offer that heavy metal testing though, so if @readalot cares, he should put his money where his mouth is and get the testing if it's what he cares about.
I'm more concerned with other impurities personally. Particularly peptides, where small changes in the peptide can still be biologically active. Or things as basic as the pH of NAD+, which we've had issues with here this past year. I recognize and accept that these are the types of things which will oftenest be tested in a non-FDA product, and that I want all of it, I can just get an FDA test.
But the question of "which additional testing could be valuable?" is always on my mind. For example, the decomposition rate of T3 or T4 in solution and suspension -- I can only measure with a resolution of 100mcg so I have to prepare a month's worth at a time (involving throwing out 90+% of the product to get a reasonable precision for low doses like 15 micrograms per day). I sometimes wonder if the T3/T4 degrades in 7 days, 30 days, 365 days, or longer, once it's put into a suspension or solution.
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