Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

No, this was all recent, so no idea what, if anything has happened, except that QSC promised something they could never deliver.

As for the source being out to get him, why would you think that? He was trying to buy a certain product to resell and got something different, which just so happened to be in the same class/family. If anything, it shows QSC tried a fast one on the source. At the very least, QSC messed up and accidentally sent the wrong product, but when it was made public, they told the source to fuck off, instead of making things right.

Point is, they put this customer’s info out there with personal info.
Considering the actual product ordered wasn't even in stock, its hard to imagine them sending an alternative product was an accident.
 
There is no motive. The guy received the wrong product and wants a refund. Mind you the price difference is $1500 for the 2 products.
If he has to eventually compete with him, than yes, he would have an incentive. Just because there is an incentive doesn't mean people act on it. Like, the Chinese suppliers could very easily start doing better stealth, set up domestic warehouses everywhere and have better quality control. That would be an incentive for them to take over the market entirely. But they don't.
 
If he has to eventually compete with him, than yes, he would have an incentive. Just because there is an incentive doesn't mean people act on it. Like, the Chinese suppliers could very easily start doing better stealth, set up domestic warehouses everywhere and have better quality control. That would be an incentive for them to take over the market entirely. But they don't.
Then they fucking should. But even they can’t help from just scamming people instead because it’s easier.
 
No, this was all recent, so no idea what, if anything has happened, except that QSC promised something they could never deliver.

As for the source being out to get him, why would you think that? He was trying to buy a certain product to resell and got something different, which just so happened to be in the same class/family. If anything, it shows QSC tried a fast one on the source. At the very least, QSC messed up and accidentally sent the wrong product, but when it was made public, they told the source to fuck off, instead of making things right.

Point is, they put this customer’s info out there with personal info.
I assumed the other source ordering the product was QSC's competition.
 
Then they fucking should. But even they can’t help from just scamming people instead because it’s easier.
The "scamming" I saw was primarily mislabeled products and not honouring reship policies after people trashed them here. Don't really call that scamming. Has anybody just been flat out ignored after they pay? Looks like they may need an overhaul with their quality control processes and I would like them to adopt some of the other sources here approach to stealth, even if they jack the price up a bit for it. Kind of thinking of moving to China lol
 
The "scamming" I saw was primarily mislabeled products and not honouring reship policies after people trashed them here. Don't really call that scamming. Has anybody just been flat out ignored after they pay? Looks like they may need an overhaul with their quality control processes and I would like them to adopt some of the other sources here approach to stealth, even if they jack the price up a bit for it. Kind of thinking of moving to China lol
Okay, so let's say you hop on eBay and find a Lambo, you find it for sale for $200k. You think "gee, that's a pretty reasonable price, and it has low miles too". You reach out to the seller of the Lambo and say to him: "I've never found such a low mileage Lambo for such a great price, is this for real? I'm not going to receive like, a '98 Civic in a bodykit, am I?"

The seller quickly responds, "no, of course not. We guarantee you're getting exactly the lambo you order. In fact if you don't receive the exact car with the same mileage in great condition, we'll give you your money back!" Well, with that guarantee you're sold. You place your bid and wouldn't you know it, you win it for $200k flat.

A few months later a truck with a fat trailer shows up to unload your lambo. Ohhhh man it looks good. You're glad it even arrived after waiting a few months. Car gets unloaded onto your driveway, but you're a savvy shopper. You just made a big investment, and not only is this YOUR lambo, but you were going to let your friends drive this Lambo too, so you want to go ahead and get it inspected by a trustworthy lambo specialist. So what do you do? You spend a few more bucks of your own money to get it inspected, and wouldn't you know it? It's a fucking '98 Civic in a bodykit.

You're a little ticked off because you specifically asked if it was going to be a '98 Civic in a bodykit, and the seller ASSURED you it was a legit Lambo. They even went so far as to promise you a refund if it wasn't. Now you've been inconvenienced greatly for your time, but you're just going to ask for your refund and move on. So you go and message the seller on eBay: "Hey man, received the car the other day, just got it inspected. It's a fucking '98 Civic in a bodykit. I specifically asked you if it was going to be beater in a bodykit. I'd like my refund."

The seller says "no, no refund."

@BWCguy you just spent $200k on a '98 civic in a bodykit when you ordered a Lambo. Did you get scammed?
 
I received a partial order from the domestic warehouse. Is this normal procedure, cuz it’s not labeled either so how do I know which compound it is?
Yes normal. Also look on the package should say something with the intials of the active. Did they send you tracking initially? Should say the active there too. Gl
 
The "scamming" I saw was primarily mislabeled products and not honouring reship policies after people trashed them here.

Don't forget the doxing part.

Don't really call that scamming. Has anybody just been flat out ignored after they pay? Looks like they may need an overhaul with their quality control processes and I would like them to adopt some of the other sources here approach to stealth, even if they jack the price up a bit for it. Kind of thinking of moving to China lol

Dude it's not like they sent him test c instead of test e that would be a quality control issue, they sent him clomid instead of torem, which basically gives the same results but costs a fraction of the price, if deus hadn't analyzed it probably nobody would have noticed, if you don't see anything wrong here you're either extremely naive or biased. Also don't forget they told him torem was out of stock, so they KNEW they were sending him something else.

Okay, so let's say you hop on eBay and find a Lambo, you find it for sale for $200k. You think "gee, that's a pretty reasonable price, and it has low miles too". You reach out to the seller of the Lambo and say to him: "I've never found such a low mileage Lambo for such a great price, is this for real? I'm not going to receive like, a '98 Civic in a bodykit, am I?"

The seller quickly responds, "no, of course not. We guarantee you're getting exactly the lambo you order. In fact if you don't receive the exact car with the same mileage in great condition, we'll give you your money back!" Well, with that guarantee you're sold. You place your bid and wouldn't you know it, you win it for $200k flat.

A few months later a truck with a fat trailer shows up to unload your lambo. Ohhhh man it looks good. You're glad it even arrived after waiting a few months. Car gets unloaded onto your driveway, but you're a savvy shopper. You just made a big investment, and not only is this YOUR lambo, but you were going to let your friends drive this Lambo too, so you want to go ahead and get it inspected by a trustworthy lambo specialist. So what do you do? You spend a few more bucks of your own money to get it inspected, and wouldn't you know it? It's a fucking '98 Civic in a bodykit.

You're a little ticked off because you specifically asked if it was going to be a '98 Civic in a bodykit, and the seller ASSURED you it was a legit Lambo. They even went so far as to promise you a refund if it wasn't. Now you've been inconvenienced greatly for your time, but you're just going to ask for your refund and move on. So you go and message the seller on eBay: "Hey man, received the car the other day, just got it inspected. It's a fucking '98 Civic in a bodykit. I specifically asked you if it was going to be beater in a bodykit. I'd like my refund."

The seller says "no, no refund."

@BWCguy you just spent $200k on a '98 civic in a bodykit when you ordered a Lambo. Did you get scammed?
Laughed at this one xD
 
Okay, so let's say you hop on eBay and find a Lambo, you find it for sale for $200k. You think "gee, that's a pretty reasonable price, and it has low miles too". You reach out to the seller of the Lambo and say to him: "I've never found such a low mileage Lambo for such a great price, is this for real? I'm not going to receive like, a '98 Civic in a bodykit, am I?"

The seller quickly responds, "no, of course not. We guarantee you're getting exactly the lambo you order. In fact if you don't receive the exact car with the same mileage in great condition, we'll give you your money back!" Well, with that guarantee you're sold. You place your bid and wouldn't you know it, you win it for $200k flat.

A few months later a truck with a fat trailer shows up to unload your lambo. Ohhhh man it looks good. You're glad it even arrived after waiting a few months. Car gets unloaded onto your driveway, but you're a savvy shopper. You just made a big investment, and not only is this YOUR lambo, but you were going to let your friends drive this Lambo too, so you want to go ahead and get it inspected by a trustworthy lambo specialist. So what do you do? You spend a few more bucks of your own money to get it inspected, and wouldn't you know it? It's a fucking '98 Civic in a bodykit.

You're a little ticked off because you specifically asked if it was going to be a '98 Civic in a bodykit, and the seller ASSURED you it was a legit Lambo. They even went so far as to promise you a refund if it wasn't. Now you've been inconvenienced greatly for your time, but you're just going to ask for your refund and move on. So you go and message the seller on eBay: "Hey man, received the car the other day, just got it inspected. It's a fucking '98 Civic in a bodykit. I specifically asked you if it was going to be beater in a bodykit. I'd like my refund."

The seller says "no, no refund."

@BWCguy you just spent $200k on a '98 civic in a bodykit when you ordered a Lambo. Did you get scammed?
I get your point. Should honour initial agreement. I don't think they sold the Civic intentionally. Big companies and human era
 
Don't forget the doxing part.



Dude it's not like they sent him test c instead of test e that would be a quality control issue, they sent him clomid instead of torem, which basically gives the same results but costs a fraction of the price, if deus hadn't analyzed it probably nobody would have noticed, if you don't see anything wrong here you're either extremely naive or biased. Also don't forget they told him torem was out of stock, so they KNEW they were sending him something else.


Laughed at this one xD
Yeah, I only saw a bit of the doxxing thing. Followed by people saying it's unintentional or soft doxxing. New to this term and I gathered it is exposing people online etc.
 
I get your point. Should honour initial agreement. I don't think they sold the Civic intentionally. Big companies and human era
Big companies should have less chance on unintentionally mixing up compounds there are more layers to catch fuck ups… I can’t believe how many people are giving them a pass when we are dealing with compounds on there list that can really fuck people up if sent mistakenly and taken in the wrong dosage.

Would you give them a pass if they accidentally sent you a compound that fucked you up or put you in the hospital? Im not sure there is a good understanding of what can happen with some of these compounds taken in the wrong dosages.
 
Big companies should have less chance on unintentionally mixing up compounds there are more layers to catch fuck ups… I can’t believe how many people are giving them a pass when we are dealing with compounds on there list that can really fuck people up if sent mistakenly and taken in the wrong dosage.

Would you give them a pass if they accidentally sent you a compound that fucked you up or put you in the hospital? Im not sure there is a good understanding of what can happen with some of these compounds taken in the wrong dosages.
Fair point. I wouldn't be ordering anything like that myself, but I hear you. I also ask myself, how are these other sources getting it? I can only imagine they are going through some rep in china and doing a lot of testing before reselling. I believe that every source here, is highly likely selling Chinese gear. So how are they doing it before they sell it to us?
 
Okay, so let's say you hop on eBay and find a Lambo, you find it for sale for $200k. You think "gee, that's a pretty reasonable price, and it has low miles too". You reach out to the seller of the Lambo and say to him: "I've never found such a low mileage Lambo for such a great price, is this for real? I'm not going to receive like, a '98 Civic in a bodykit, am I?"

The seller quickly responds, "no, of course not. We guarantee you're getting exactly the lambo you order. In fact if you don't receive the exact car with the same mileage in great condition, we'll give you your money back!" Well, with that guarantee you're sold. You place your bid and wouldn't you know it, you win it for $200k flat.

A few months later a truck with a fat trailer shows up to unload your lambo. Ohhhh man it looks good. You're glad it even arrived after waiting a few months. Car gets unloaded onto your driveway, but you're a savvy shopper. You just made a big investment, and not only is this YOUR lambo, but you were going to let your friends drive this Lambo too, so you want to go ahead and get it inspected by a trustworthy lambo specialist. So what do you do? You spend a few more bucks of your own money to get it inspected, and wouldn't you know it? It's a fucking '98 Civic in a bodykit.

You're a little ticked off because you specifically asked if it was going to be a '98 Civic in a bodykit, and the seller ASSURED you it was a legit Lambo. They even went so far as to promise you a refund if it wasn't. Now you've been inconvenienced greatly for your time, but you're just going to ask for your refund and move on. So you go and message the seller on eBay: "Hey man, received the car the other day, just got it inspected. It's a fucking '98 Civic in a bodykit. I specifically asked you if it was going to be beater in a bodykit. I'd like my refund."

The seller says "no, no refund."

@BWCguy you just spent $200k on a '98 civic in a bodykit when you ordered a Lambo. Did you get scammed?

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Great response mate
 
Hey guys just wanted to give an update I had ordered both from dom warehouse and from overseas. As I mentioned early Dom arrived very quickly and was as advertised. I can't say 100% about quality but it seemed to work well for me. I ordered from overseas about 3 and a half weeks ago and received today! Everything was there and in order as requested. Time frame was exactly in the frame I had been given so no wondering if it was going to show. I've only tried one of the products that I ordered and it worked well so I'm assuming quality is good across the board (this is an assumption) but I am happy with my purchase! Thank you Sigma! Mush loves!
 
Hey guys just wanted to give an update I had ordered both from dom warehouse and from overseas. As I mentioned early Dom arrived very quickly and was as advertised. I can't say 100% about quality but it seemed to work well for me. I ordered from overseas about 3 and a half weeks ago and received today! Everything was there and in order as requested. Time frame was exactly in the frame I had been given so no wondering if it was going to show. I've only tried one of the products that I ordered and it worked well so I'm assuming quality is good across the board (this is an assumption) but I am happy with my purchase! Thank you Sigma! Mush loves!
Care to say what product worked well?
 
Fair point. I wouldn't be ordering anything like that myself, but I hear you. I also ask myself, how are these other sources getting it? I can only imagine they are going through some rep in china and doing a lot of testing before reselling. I believe that every source here, is highly likely selling Chinese gear. So how are they doing it before they sell it to us?
You don’t have to be ordering something dangerous.. Let’s just hypothetically say you order Tren enth, but what gets sent to you is Methyl Tren. I mean they both have tren in the name so no big deal right?

Now this would be an extreme example but my point is still the same mislabeling is a huge issue that shouldn’t be swept under the rug..
 
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